Re: XP3 kills my wireless

On Sun, 10 May 2009 12:28:18 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
<> wrote:

>[Note to self: AGENT]
>
>> I checked out MS for updates needed and there is about 100 required.
>
>Are you currently running WinXP SP2 and haven't updated in years? Have you
>recently had occasion to reinstall Windows? If so, why and how did you do
>it?

Running 2 WinxP's. The hardwired one is SP3. The wireless connected
one is SP2.

I paid $80 for a shop to analyze the wireless connected computer and
they said Windows is buggered and must be reloaded. Their price was
$180 to reload windows.

I re-installed windows myself, first time in 20 years, and it is now
OK and running SP2. Adding SP3 however kills my wireless connection
and have found no one locally with the combined knowledge of windows.
Netgear wireless etc.

I looked at the hotfixes etc listed below but don't want to risk
trying them.

Secunia says I need 93 KBs to get updated. I fear one of
those might kill my wireless just like SP3 did. If I knew which KB
to NOT download I might try it.

Since I'm 72, I'm going to let well enough alone.

Thanks for your information and time.

BoB

>The above notwithstanding...
>
>Device Manager and Network Connections may be blank after you install
>Windows XP Service Pack 3
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953791
>
>Device Manager may not show any devices and Network Connections may not show
>any network connections after you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953979
>
>A Windows XP SP3-based computer loses wireless connectivity when it resumes
>from standby or from hibernation, or you receive an error message when you
>try to put the computer in standby or in hibernation:
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951447
>
>Windows XP SP3-based client computers cannot access the network when some
>DHCP information is unavailable
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953761
>
>WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
>http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron...tallation.aspx
>
>The free unlimited installation and compatibility support for WinXP SP3 has
>been extended (but certainly not indefinitely) beyond the original 14 April
>2009 cut-off date. Open your browser to
>http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...spx?gprid=1173 | select
>Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3
>~~
>~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>
>BoB wrote:
>> I installed XP3 and lost my wireless connection.
>> I could not get my wireless working again, so I uninstalled XP3.
>> My wireless worked again when I rebooted.
>>
>> Must I choose between XP3 or a working wireless connection?
>>
>> I checked out MS for updates needed and there is about 100 required.
>>
>> I use Firefox and Agent so do not use IE or Outlook Express.
>> An internet connection is more important to me than the security
>> aspect.
>>
>> If I install the 100 or so updates, will I again lose my wireless
>> connecton?

"BoB" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sun, 10 May 2009 12:28:18 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> <> wrote:
>
>>[Note to self: AGENT]
>>
>>> I checked out MS for updates needed and there is about 100 required.
>>
>>Are you currently running WinXP SP2 and haven't updated in years? Have
>>you
>>recently had occasion to reinstall Windows? If so, why and how did you do
>>it?
>
> Running 2 WinxP's. The hardwired one is SP3. The wireless connected
> one is SP2.
>
> I paid $80 for a shop to analyze the wireless connected computer and
> they said Windows is buggered and must be reloaded. Their price was
> $180 to reload windows.
>
> I re-installed windows myself, first time in 20 years, and it is now
> OK and running SP2. Adding SP3 however kills my wireless connection
> and have found no one locally with the combined knowledge of windows.
> Netgear wireless etc.
>
> I looked at the hotfixes etc listed below but don't want to risk
> trying them.
>
> Secunia says I need 93 KBs to get updated. I fear one of
> those might kill my wireless just like SP3 did. If I knew which KB
> to NOT download I might try it.
>
> Since I'm 72, I'm going to let well enough alone.
You are too young to be using the age card...
By the way, SP3 had no effect on my wireless configurations.
So, I suspect that SP3 merely revealed the OS problems.
Jim ( who will be 79 in 11 days, but who never uses age as an excuse)
<snip>

> Secunia says I need 93 KBs to get updated. I fear one of
> those might kill my wireless just like SP3 did. If I knew which KB
> to NOT download I might try it....I'm going to let well enough alone.

Would you ignore a product recall for your 2007 automobile due to fears that
the fix might cause a problem? Would you ignore the recall of a
contaminated food product due to fears that another food item might make you
sick, too?

For you consideration:

1. A machine that is not fully patched is NOT safe to use and should NOT be
connected to the internet or any networks.

2. No Charge Support for all critical security updates and for WinXP SP3 is
available 24/7, /should/ the need arise (doubtful).

3. No-Charge Support for WinXP SP3 installation and compatibility issues was
scheduled to end on 14 April 2009 but has been extended...but this extension
is NOT going to be indefinite.

4. If WinXP SP3 isn't installed by July 2010, your computer will NOT be
offered any further critical security updates.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


BoB wrote:
> On Sun, 10 May 2009 12:28:18 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> <> wrote:
>
>> [Note to self: AGENT]
>>
>>> I checked out MS for updates needed and there is about 100 required.
>>
>> Are you currently running WinXP SP2 and haven't updated in years? Have
>> you
>> recently had occasion to reinstall Windows? If so, why and how did you
>> do
>> it?
>
> Running 2 WinxP's. The hardwired one is SP3. The wireless connected
> one is SP2.
>
> I paid $80 for a shop to analyze the wireless connected computer and
> they said Windows is buggered and must be reloaded. Their price was
> $180 to reload windows.
>
> I re-installed windows myself, first time in 20 years, and it is now
> OK and running SP2. Adding SP3 however kills my wireless connection
> and have found no one locally with the combined knowledge of windows.
> Netgear wireless etc.
>
> I looked at the hotfixes etc listed below but don't want to risk
> trying them.
>
> Secunia says I need 93 KBs to get updated. I fear one of
> those might kill my wireless just like SP3 did. If I knew which KB
> to NOT download I might try it.
>
> Since I'm 72, I'm going to let well enough alone.
>
> Thanks for your information and time.
>
>> The above notwithstanding...
>>
>> Device Manager and Network Connections may be blank after you install
>> Windows XP Service Pack 3
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953791
>>
>> Device Manager may not show any devices and Network Connections may not
>> show any network connections after you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953979
>>
>> A Windows XP SP3-based computer loses wireless connectivity when it
>> resumes
>> from standby or from hibernation, or you receive an error message when
>> you
>> try to put the computer in standby or in hibernation:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951447
>>
>> Windows XP SP3-based client computers cannot access the network when some
>> DHCP information is unavailable
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953761
>>
>> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron...tallation.aspx
>>
>> The free unlimited installation and compatibility support for WinXP SP3
>> has
>> been extended (but certainly not indefinitely) beyond the original 14
>> April
>> 2009 cut-off date. Open your browser to
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...spx?gprid=1173 | select
>> Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3
>> ~~
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>
>>
>> BoB wrote:
>>> I installed XP3 and lost my wireless connection.
>>> I could not get my wireless working again, so I uninstalled XP3.
>>> My wireless worked again when I rebooted.
>>>
>>> Must I choose between XP3 or a working wireless connection?
>>>
>>> I checked out MS for updates needed and there is about 100 required.
>>>
>>> I use Firefox and Agent so do not use IE or Outlook Express.
>>> An internet connection is more important to me than the security
>>> aspect.
>>>
>>> If I install the 100 or so updates, will I again lose my wireless
>>> connecton?

On Mon, 11 May 2009 21:25:40 +0530, Goshute
<> wrote:

>
>BoB, though I'm new to the Forum, may I offer some specific advice.
>
>Is a Netgear device the wireless device installed in the PC which lost
>it's wireless connection? You should be able to identify the wifi device
>in that PC via Start | Control Panel | System | Hardware | Device
>Manager | Network Adapters. Search the manufacturers website for driver
>and installation update downloads, and install them.

Yes.
I have DL'd the entire setup program for my wireless from Netgear.
I'll install SP3 again, then install the wireless.

>As a word of general advice, for security reasons you should at least
>keep your OS, Firewall, Antivirus, Malware manager, and Browser updated
>with all updates. Things like MEBRoot and Torpig are scary.

I keep everything updated daily. Only my OS, due to SP3 is giving
me any problems.

BoB

On Mon, 11 May 2009 12:40:44 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
<> wrote:

>> Secunia says I need 93 KBs to get updated. I fear one of
>> those might kill my wireless just like SP3 did. If I knew which KB
>> to NOT download I might try it....I'm going to let well enough alone.
>
>Would you ignore a product recall for your 2007 automobile due to fears that
>the fix might cause a problem? Would you ignore the recall of a
>contaminated food product due to fears that another food item might make you
>sick, too?

No. I'm watching for recall info on my 2008 Subaru purchased last
month. :-)

>For you consideration:
>
>1. A machine that is not fully patched is NOT safe to use and should NOT be
>connected to the internet or any networks.

Which why I'm trying to get SP3 installed and still have an internet
connection.

>2. No Charge Support for all critical security updates and for WinXP SP3 is
>available 24/7, /should/ the need arise (doubtful).

I had no problem with SP3 itself or operation of windows. I'll
probably end up paying someone for support to get my wireless
working, which is what I was trying to avoid.

>3. No-Charge Support for WinXP SP3 installation and compatibility issues was
>scheduled to end on 14 April 2009 but has been extended...but this extension
>is NOT going to be indefinite.

A fully updated computer is nearly worthless to me if I cannot access
the internet.

>4. If WinXP SP3 isn't installed by July 2010, your computer will NOT be
>offered any further critical security updates.

I have DL'd the entire setup program for my wireless from Netgear.
I'll install SP3 again, then install the wireless.

Thanx for your info and help.

BoB