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Lee Antony
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      12-11-2009
Excuse me for replying to a 5-day old thread.

I wrote:
"I have a suspicion that it may coincide with messages appearing in
recovered items."

I was wrong about this. I went to this newsgroup today and 97 messages that
I read yesterday were marked unread but nothing was showing in recovered
items.

Is this still a symptom of of WLMail not properly cleaning up on exit?


"R. C. White" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Hi, Lee.
>
> Yes, I've seen this many times, and others have reported it here.
>
> That happens when WLM doesn't have time to "put away its toys" before
> closing. It doesn't complete all its tasks, including marking those
> messages "Read". So, when WLM is restarted, it tries to catch up, but it
> does this in the background so as to not interfere with today's agenda.
> It might put those messages into Recovered items until it gets around to
> sorting them. (Sometimes a later glitch will cause it to lose track of
> some of those Recovered items and we will eventually have to delete them
> manually - after verifying that, yes, they did show up in the Messages
> list and we did get a chance to read them there.)
>
> It's not always easy to tell when WLM is really finished with its
> background processing. When I'm ready to shut down for the night, I
> usually spend a few minutes doing other things (Solitaire?) before closing
> WLM. First I make sure that WLM's "progress window" (that smaller window
> that shows messages being downloaded from each Mail and News account and
> newsgroup) is no longer busy and then close the main WLM window.
>
> But no matter how careful I am with normal exits from WLM, there will
> still be occasional abnormal exits, such as unexpected reboots, and I
> probably will find Recovered items after those events, too.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
>
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
>
> "Lee Antony" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> I have Windows 7 and WLMail. Sometimes I find that newsgroup messages
>> that
>> I have read show up as unread again when I go back to retrieve more
>> messages.
>>
>> For example I read all the new messages in this group up to 20:00
>> yesterday.
>> Today at 13:30 forty of those messages are shown as unread. This can
>> happen
>> with other newsgroups not just those on microsoft.public.
>>
>> Sometimes several days pass without this happening. I have a suspicion
>> that
>> it may coincide with messages appearing in recovered items. No one else
>> I
>> have spoken to has seen this behaviour.
>>
>> It's not a great annoyance but if anyone has a fix I would be grateful.

>

 
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Michael Santovec
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      12-11-2009
Were the messages marked as Read before you left the newsgroup
yesterday?

Marking messages that you viewed as read is dependent on your setting at
Tools, Options, Read, Mark messages as read after displaying for xx
seconds.

Or are you using Mark all messages as read when exiting a newsgroup?

My experience has been that intermittently, activity done in WLM shortly
before closing it does not always get written to disk in the
Mail.MSMessageStore file.

--

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"Lee Antony" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Excuse me for replying to a 5-day old thread.
>
> I wrote:
> "I have a suspicion that it may coincide with messages appearing in
> recovered items."
>
> I was wrong about this. I went to this newsgroup today and 97
> messages that I read yesterday were marked unread but nothing was
> showing in recovered items.
>
> Is this still a symptom of of WLMail not properly cleaning up on exit?
>
>
> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> Hi, Lee.
>>
>> Yes, I've seen this many times, and others have reported it here.
>>
>> That happens when WLM doesn't have time to "put away its toys" before
>> closing. It doesn't complete all its tasks, including marking those
>> messages "Read". So, when WLM is restarted, it tries to catch up,
>> but it does this in the background so as to not interfere with
>> today's agenda. It might put those messages into Recovered items
>> until it gets around to sorting them. (Sometimes a later glitch will
>> cause it to lose track of some of those Recovered items and we will
>> eventually have to delete them manually - after verifying that, yes,
>> they did show up in the Messages list and we did get a chance to read
>> them there.)
>>
>> It's not always easy to tell when WLM is really finished with its
>> background processing. When I'm ready to shut down for the night, I
>> usually spend a few minutes doing other things (Solitaire?) before
>> closing WLM. First I make sure that WLM's "progress window" (that
>> smaller window that shows messages being downloaded from each Mail
>> and News account and newsgroup) is no longer busy and then close the
>> main WLM window.
>>
>> But no matter how careful I am with normal exits from WLM, there will
>> still be occasional abnormal exits, such as unexpected reboots, and I
>> probably will find Recovered items after those events, too.
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>>
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
>>
>> "Lee Antony" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> I have Windows 7 and WLMail. Sometimes I find that newsgroup
>>> messages that
>>> I have read show up as unread again when I go back to retrieve more
>>> messages.
>>>
>>> For example I read all the new messages in this group up to 20:00
>>> yesterday.
>>> Today at 13:30 forty of those messages are shown as unread. This
>>> can happen
>>> with other newsgroups not just those on microsoft.public.
>>>
>>> Sometimes several days pass without this happening. I have a
>>> suspicion that
>>> it may coincide with messages appearing in recovered items. No one
>>> else I
>>> have spoken to has seen this behaviour.
>>>
>>> It's not a great annoyance but if anyone has a fix I would be
>>> grateful.

>>


 
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R. C. White
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      12-11-2009
Hi, Mike.

That's my experience, too. And it happened a couple of times in just the
past day or two. There may have been a glitch or an overload of some kind
on the server end. :^{

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
news:eQWR#...
> Were the messages marked as Read before you left the newsgroup yesterday?
>
> Marking messages that you viewed as read is dependent on your setting at
> Tools, Options, Read, Mark messages as read after displaying for xx
> seconds.
>
> Or are you using Mark all messages as read when exiting a newsgroup?
>
> My experience has been that intermittently, activity done in WLM shortly
> before closing it does not always get written to disk in the
> Mail.MSMessageStore file.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>
>
>
> "Lee Antony" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Excuse me for replying to a 5-day old thread.
>>
>> I wrote:
>> "I have a suspicion that it may coincide with messages appearing in
>> recovered items."
>>
>> I was wrong about this. I went to this newsgroup today and 97 messages
>> that I read yesterday were marked unread but nothing was showing in
>> recovered items.
>>
>> Is this still a symptom of of WLMail not properly cleaning up on exit?
>>
>>
>> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
>> news:#...
>>> Hi, Lee.
>>>
>>> Yes, I've seen this many times, and others have reported it here.
>>>
>>> That happens when WLM doesn't have time to "put away its toys" before
>>> closing. It doesn't complete all its tasks, including marking those
>>> messages "Read". So, when WLM is restarted, it tries to catch up, but
>>> it does this in the background so as to not interfere with today's
>>> agenda. It might put those messages into Recovered items until it gets
>>> around to sorting them. (Sometimes a later glitch will cause it to lose
>>> track of some of those Recovered items and we will eventually have to
>>> delete them manually - after verifying that, yes, they did show up in
>>> the Messages list and we did get a chance to read them there.)
>>>
>>> It's not always easy to tell when WLM is really finished with its
>>> background processing. When I'm ready to shut down for the night, I
>>> usually spend a few minutes doing other things (Solitaire?) before
>>> closing WLM. First I make sure that WLM's "progress window" (that
>>> smaller window that shows messages being downloaded from each Mail and
>>> News account and newsgroup) is no longer busy and then close the main
>>> WLM window.
>>>
>>> But no matter how careful I am with normal exits from WLM, there will
>>> still be occasional abnormal exits, such as unexpected reboots, and I
>>> probably will find Recovered items after those events, too.
>>>
>>> RC
>>>
>>> "Lee Antony" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> I have Windows 7 and WLMail. Sometimes I find that newsgroup messages
>>>> that
>>>> I have read show up as unread again when I go back to retrieve more
>>>> messages.
>>>>
>>>> For example I read all the new messages in this group up to 20:00
>>>> yesterday.
>>>> Today at 13:30 forty of those messages are shown as unread. This can
>>>> happen
>>>> with other newsgroups not just those on microsoft.public.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes several days pass without this happening. I have a suspicion
>>>> that
>>>> it may coincide with messages appearing in recovered items. No one
>>>> else I
>>>> have spoken to has seen this behaviour.
>>>>
>>>> It's not a great annoyance but if anyone has a fix I would be grateful.


 
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Lee Antony
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      12-11-2009
Yes, all were marked as read before I closed WLM. My setting for this is 1
second.

Every couple of days I get newsgroups showing up with messages marked as
unread that I have already read. Newsgroups most affected seem to be
microsoft.public.live.mail.desktop and alt.windows7.general.

Perhaps it is a coincidence but these are usually the last messages I look
at before closing WLM.


"Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
news:eQWR#...
> Were the messages marked as Read before you left the newsgroup yesterday?
>
> Marking messages that you viewed as read is dependent on your setting at
> Tools, Options, Read, Mark messages as read after displaying for xx
> seconds.
>
> Or are you using Mark all messages as read when exiting a newsgroup?
>
> My experience has been that intermittently, activity done in WLM shortly
> before closing it does not always get written to disk in the
> Mail.MSMessageStore file.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>
>
>
> "Lee Antony" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Excuse me for replying to a 5-day old thread.
>>
>> I wrote:
>> "I have a suspicion that it may coincide with messages appearing in
>> recovered items."
>>
>> I was wrong about this. I went to this newsgroup today and 97 messages
>> that I read yesterday were marked unread but nothing was showing in
>> recovered items.
>>
>> Is this still a symptom of of WLMail not properly cleaning up on exit?
>>
>>
>> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
>> news:#...
>>> Hi, Lee.
>>>
>>> Yes, I've seen this many times, and others have reported it here.
>>>
>>> That happens when WLM doesn't have time to "put away its toys" before
>>> closing. It doesn't complete all its tasks, including marking those
>>> messages "Read". So, when WLM is restarted, it tries to catch up, but
>>> it does this in the background so as to not interfere with today's
>>> agenda. It might put those messages into Recovered items until it gets
>>> around to sorting them. (Sometimes a later glitch will cause it to lose
>>> track of some of those Recovered items and we will eventually have to
>>> delete them manually - after verifying that, yes, they did show up in
>>> the Messages list and we did get a chance to read them there.)
>>>
>>> It's not always easy to tell when WLM is really finished with its
>>> background processing. When I'm ready to shut down for the night, I
>>> usually spend a few minutes doing other things (Solitaire?) before
>>> closing WLM. First I make sure that WLM's "progress window" (that
>>> smaller window that shows messages being downloaded from each Mail and
>>> News account and newsgroup) is no longer busy and then close the main
>>> WLM window.
>>>
>>> But no matter how careful I am with normal exits from WLM, there will
>>> still be occasional abnormal exits, such as unexpected reboots, and I
>>> probably will find Recovered items after those events, too.
>>>
>>> RC
>>> --
>>> R. C. White, CPA
>>> San Marcos, TX
>>>
>>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>>> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
>>>
>>> "Lee Antony" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> I have Windows 7 and WLMail. Sometimes I find that newsgroup messages
>>>> that
>>>> I have read show up as unread again when I go back to retrieve more
>>>> messages.
>>>>
>>>> For example I read all the new messages in this group up to 20:00
>>>> yesterday.
>>>> Today at 13:30 forty of those messages are shown as unread. This can
>>>> happen
>>>> with other newsgroups not just those on microsoft.public.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes several days pass without this happening. I have a suspicion
>>>> that
>>>> it may coincide with messages appearing in recovered items. No one
>>>> else I
>>>> have spoken to has seen this behaviour.
>>>>
>>>> It's not a great annoyance but if anyone has a fix I would be grateful.
>>>

>

 
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