Real Administrator Impotent?

Vista Business. I activate the Real Administrator account via group
policies. I logon as Real Administrator and then try to reset Security
properties of all folders within the Program Files folder giving the the
lower user/administrator full control. This process works on all folders
except for the Microsoft folders (Media Player, Movie Maker, Games etc). Why
can't the REAL Administrator change the Security settings on those folders?
Isn't the REAL ADMINISTRATOR account all-powerful or does MS really own our
computer?

"John" <> wrote in message
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> Vista Business. I activate the Real Administrator account via
> group policies. I logon as Real Administrator and then try to
> reset Security properties of all folders within the Program
> Files folder giving the the lower user/administrator full
> control. This process works on all folders except for the
> Microsoft folders (Media Player, Movie Maker, Games etc). Why
> can't the REAL Administrator change the Security settings on
> those folders? Isn't the REAL ADMINISTRATOR account all-powerful
> or does MS really own our computer?
>
>
>
>



Right click on Computer --> Manage --> Local Users and Groups -->
Users --> Administrator.
Right click --> Properties uncheck "Account is disabled".

Right click again on Administrator --> Set Password...

Log off and log on again and you will see Administrator in Welcome
Screen.

Yes, I have done just that. That's why I distinguished betweem a user with
admin rights and the REAL Administrator. My point is even when I am logged
in as the REAL ADMINISTRATOR, the Security settings on some folders (MS)
within Program Files can not be changed.

"gghhghtr" <b$> wrote in message
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> "John" <> wrote in message
> news::
>
>> Vista Business. I activate the Real Administrator account via
>> group policies. I logon as Real Administrator and then try to
>> reset Security properties of all folders within the Program
>> Files folder giving the the lower user/administrator full
>> control. This process works on all folders except for the
>> Microsoft folders (Media Player, Movie Maker, Games etc). Why
>> can't the REAL Administrator change the Security settings on
>> those folders? Isn't the REAL ADMINISTRATOR account all-powerful
>> or does MS really own our computer?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Right click on Computer --> Manage --> Local Users and Groups -->
> Users --> Administrator.
> Right click --> Properties uncheck "Account is disabled".
>
> Right click again on Administrator --> Set Password...
>
> Log off and log on again and you will see Administrator in Welcome
> Screen.

"John" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Yes, I have done just that. That's why I distinguished betweem a user with
> admin rights and the REAL Administrator. My point is even when I am logged
> in as the REAL ADMINISTRATOR, the Security settings on some folders (MS)
> within Program Files can not be changed.

Tried taking ownership?

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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I did not try 'taking ownership' as the REAL Administrator. I assumed there
was no higher power and the REAL Administrator had full, unchallenged
control to do whatever. And changing security as the REAL Administrator did
work on all folders in the Program Files except the MS folders.


"Paul Smith" <> wrote in message
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> "John" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Yes, I have done just that. That's why I distinguished betweem a user
>> with admin rights and the REAL Administrator. My point is even when I am
>> logged in as the REAL ADMINISTRATOR, the Security settings on some
>> folders (MS) within Program Files can not be changed.
>
> Tried taking ownership?
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>
>

Taking ownership does work.
Thanks for that idea, Paul


"John" <> wrote in message
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>I did not try 'taking ownership' as the REAL Administrator. I assumed there
>was no higher power and the REAL Administrator had full, unchallenged
>control to do whatever. And changing security as the REAL Administrator did
>work on all folders in the Program Files except the MS folders.
>
>
> "Paul Smith" <> wrote in message
> news:307D378D-C612-4410-AC40-...
>> "John" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Yes, I have done just that. That's why I distinguished betweem a user
>>> with admin rights and the REAL Administrator. My point is even when I am
>>> logged in as the REAL ADMINISTRATOR, the Security settings on some
>>> folders (MS) within Program Files can not be changed.
>>
>> Tried taking ownership?
>>
>> --
>> Paul Smith,
>> Yeovil, UK.
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
>> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
>> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>>
>> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>>
>>
>
>

Try taking ownership first, then change the permissions. I don't get why you
need to change the permissions anyway for these folders.


"John" <> wrote in message
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> Vista Business. I activate the Real Administrator account via group
> policies. I logon as Real Administrator and then try to reset Security
> properties of all folders within the Program Files folder giving the the
> lower user/administrator full control. This process works on all folders
> except for the Microsoft folders (Media Player, Movie Maker, Games etc).
> Why can't the REAL Administrator change the Security settings on those
> folders? Isn't the REAL ADMINISTRATOR account all-powerful or does MS
> really own our computer?
>
>
>