Reboot says "Not genuine", but WGA tool says "Genuine"

Long story short: when my XP Professional machine boots up, the "Not
Genuine" and "no more updates for you!" messages shows up, but when I
run the WGA Diagnostic Tool, it says "Genuine". Suffice it to say
that this is a legitimate copy.

Question: What are my options now? What is Microsoft's public
comment to those of us with legitimate copies experiencing this issue?

-Tom-


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"Tom Kustner" <tkustner*remove*@*spam*#.com> wrote in message news:...
> Long story short: when my XP Professional machine boots up, the "Not
> Genuine" and "no more updates for you!" messages shows up, but when I
> run the WGA Diagnostic Tool, it says "Genuine". Suffice it to say
> that this is a legitimate copy.
>
> Question: What are my options now? What is Microsoft's public
> comment to those of us with legitimate copies experiencing this issue?
>
Tom, you cheated - that's two questions. For responses to both, the forums:
http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/...=125&SiteID=25

The string of text to feed a Google search would be:
Windows Genuine Advantage Notification

Michael Jennings wrote:
> "Tom Kustner" <tkustner*remove*@*spam*#.com> wrote in message news:...
>> Long story short: when my XP Professional machine boots up, the "Not
>> Genuine" and "no more updates for you!" messages shows up, but when I
>> run the WGA Diagnostic Tool, it says "Genuine". Suffice it to say
>> that this is a legitimate copy.
>>
>> Question: What are my options now?

Try using System restore back to before you installed the MS spyware.

What is Microsoft's public
>> comment to those of us with legitimate copies experiencing this issue?

They want you to buy XP again, of course!

>>
> Tom, you cheated - that's two questions. For responses to both, the forums:
> http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/...=125&SiteID=25
>
> The string of text to feed a Google search would be:
> Windows Genuine Advantage Notification
>
>

That forum is censored big time. Try to answer it here, Michael, so we
all can benefit and so it will be forever archived on Google.

Alias

"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message news:...
> Michael Jennings wrote:
>> http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/...=125&SiteID=25
>
> That forum is censored big time. Try to answer it here, Michael, so we
> all can benefit and so it will be forever archived on Google.


Alias, if you are attempting to goad me into posting hacks and cracks in Microsoft's
Windows Update newsgroup - forget it! I advise you not to push your privileges
here to the extent that you did in the forums - try to behave like a welcome guest.

Michael

Michael Jennings wrote:

> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message news:...
>
>>Michael Jennings wrote:
>>
>>>http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/...=125&SiteID=25
>>
>>That forum is censored big time. Try to answer it here, Michael, so we
>>all can benefit and so it will be forever archived on Google.
>
>
>
> Alias, if you are attempting to goad me into posting hacks and cracks in Microsoft's
> Windows Update newsgroup - forget it! I advise you not to push your privileges
> here to the extent that you did in the forums - try to behave like a welcome guest.
>
> Michael
>
>

Lest I am mistaken, Alias is not here as a guest but more as a
member of the public. The name of the newsgroup seems to read:
microsoft.public.windowsupdate. Last time I checked, the public
still has the privilege to express its own viewpoints. Sorry to
read that you feel constrained. The answer to Tom's question is
that WGA is wrong because the WGA Diagnostic Tool says so and it
will also be the response of whomever answers it in the forum.
Robin Walker's advise, sometime earlier, is, I believe, to reboot
and all will turn out OK.

Michael Jennings wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message news:...
>> Michael Jennings wrote:
>>> http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/...=125&SiteID=25
>> That forum is censored big time. Try to answer it here, Michael, so we
>> all can benefit and so it will be forever archived on Google.
>
>
> Alias, if you are attempting to goad me into posting hacks and cracks in Microsoft's
> Windows Update newsgroup - forget it! I advise you not to push your privileges
> here to the extent that you did in the forums - try to behave like a welcome guest.
>
> Michael
>
>

Yes, dear.

Nothing I posted on that forum was disrespectful, obscene or anything
even close to being out of line. I believe a certain person made an
effort to ban me there.

As far as being a guest, I am a paying customer of XP and every right to
post here as long as I am civil.

Alias

"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message news:...
> Michael Jennings wrote:
>> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message news:...
>>> Michael Jennings wrote:
>>>> http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/...=125&SiteID=25
>>> That forum is censored big time. Try to answer it here, Michael, so we
>>> all can benefit and so it will be forever archived on Google.
>>
>>
>> Alias, if you are attempting to goad me into posting hacks and cracks in Microsoft's
>> Windows Update newsgroup - forget it! I advise you not to push your privileges
>> here to the extent that you did in the forums - try to behave like a welcome guest.
>>
>> Michael
>
> Yes, dear.
>
> Nothing I posted on that forum was disrespectful, obscene or anything
> even close to being out of line. I believe a certain person made an
> effort to ban me there.
>
> As far as being a guest, I am a paying customer of XP and every right to
> post here as long as I am civil.
>
> Alias

It's sensible of these Microsoft newsgroups to be tolerant of diverse viewpoints.
If some rambunctious posts had I made long ago hadn't been stricken, I could
almost go along with the "right" to post without regard for the host. As is, I
regard it as a privilege and understand that the rules are theirs, not mine.

"Ghostrider" <-00-@fitron.142> wrote in message news:...
> Michael Jennings wrote:
>> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message news:...
>>>Michael Jennings wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/...=125&SiteID=25
>>>
>>>That forum is censored big time. Try to answer it here, Michael, so we
>>>all can benefit and so it will be forever archived on Google.
>>
>> Alias, if you are attempting to goad me into posting hacks and cracks in Microsoft's
>> Windows Update newsgroup - forget it! I advise you not to push your privileges
>> here to the extent that you did in the forums - try to behave like a welcome guest.
>>
> Lest I am mistaken, Alias is not here as a guest but more as a
> member of the public. The name of the newsgroup seems to read:
> microsoft.public.windowsupdate. Last time I checked, the public
> still has the privilege to express its own viewpoints. Sorry to
> read that you feel constrained. The answer to Tom's question is
> that WGA is wrong because the WGA Diagnostic Tool says so and it
> will also be the response of whomever answers it in the forum.
> Robin Walker's advise, sometime earlier, is, I believe, to reboot
> and all will turn out OK.

Hope so - Tom hasn't reposted.

"Stewart" <> wrote in message news:...
> Ah, that word "privilege" again - the favorite word of censors,
> repressors, and control freaks everywhere. Some say free speech is a
> privilege, not a right. Others say driving on the highways is a
> privilege. Some in America today say a fair trial is a privilege
> reserved only for Americans, not a right for all (and certainly not
> for those locked away in American military prisons for years now,
> perhaps to never see their homes or families again). Indeed, is seems
> just about anything can be pushed aside with the "privilege" word. An
> American president has even said citizenship for those born in America
> is a privilege, not a right.

Allow me to set aside (mutual?) concern for immanent world ruin due to
fascist delusion, and pretend that who owns what is an important matter.

Consider the question of ownership of the newsgroup. Who controls it?
It is maintained by (fill in the blank). Does the owner not filter out spam?
Could the owner not filter out anyone it wished? The answers I get lead
me to conclude that there is a privilege to post granted by the owner.

Examining the other side of the coin, I don't think that Microsoft has
a right to do as it pleases with my property, even if it should claim it does,
and obtain a law that gives it that right. I may grant it a privilege to do
limited things with the software I license from it on the computer I own.

Michael Jennings wrote:

> "Stewart" <> wrote in message news:...
>
>>Ah, that word "privilege" again - the favorite word of censors,
>>repressors, and control freaks everywhere. Some say free speech is a
>>privilege, not a right. Others say driving on the highways is a
>>privilege. Some in America today say a fair trial is a privilege
>>reserved only for Americans, not a right for all (and certainly not
>>for those locked away in American military prisons for years now,
>>perhaps to never see their homes or families again). Indeed, is seems
>>just about anything can be pushed aside with the "privilege" word. An
>>American president has even said citizenship for those born in America
>>is a privilege, not a right.
>
>
> Allow me to set aside (mutual?) concern for immanent world ruin due to
> fascist delusion, and pretend that who owns what is an important matter.
>
> Consider the question of ownership of the newsgroup. Who controls it?
> It is maintained by (fill in the blank). Does the owner not filter out spam?
> Could the owner not filter out anyone it wished? The answers I get lead
> me to conclude that there is a privilege to post granted by the owner.
>
> Examining the other side of the coin, I don't think that Microsoft has
> a right to do as it pleases with my property, even if it should claim it does,
> and obtain a law that gives it that right. I may grant it a privilege to do
> limited things with the software I license from it on the computer I own.
>
>

In regards to this particular newsgroup with the word "public"
in its title, there are certain guarantees that censorship other
than for propriety should exist although the owner does have the
right to terminate the entire newsgroup. The last time a major
company did it was Intel, to its public forums, resulting from
the rather diastrous Pentium-3 PSN debacle and the ensuing debate,
often acrimonous involving both the public and Intel employees.
One can see what has happened to the fortunes of Intel subsequent
to the demise of its newsgroups. The loss of these channels for
communication only pointed the way to AMD's doorsteps. Microsoft's
embracing of Product Activation and WGA borderlines the same dogma
of Intel and PSN, and the posts are starting to get quite testy.