Receiving non-stop messages

Hi,
The problem is already mentioned in other mails but i didn't found any real
solution.

I happens that an account is receiving non-stop messages, the counter is
running continously and i have to interrupt to be avle to continue.

Afterwards it is working normally, it is not always on the same acount and
not every time when looking for new messages.

The accounts are all pop3-accounts from and not hot-mails.

Yes, WM is still on the systeem but no more in use, further i am using AVG
9.0 where the incoming e-mail scanning is active.

So, the problem is may be into WLM (14.0.8089.0726) or into the AVG 9.0?

Regards
Huib

Uninstall AVG. Do a custom install and do not install the email component.
--
Ron Sommer
MS MVP-Mail

"Huib" <> wrote in message
news:4af7fa40$0$2854$...
> Hi,
> The problem is already mentioned in other mails but i didn't found any
> real solution.
>
> I happens that an account is receiving non-stop messages, the counter is
> running continously and i have to interrupt to be avle to continue.
>
> Afterwards it is working normally, it is not always on the same acount and
> not every time when looking for new messages.
>
> The accounts are all pop3-accounts from and not hot-mails.
>
> Yes, WM is still on the systeem but no more in use, further i am using AVG
> 9.0 where the incoming e-mail scanning is active.
>
> So, the problem is may be into WLM (14.0.8089.0726) or into the AVG 9.0?
>
> Regards
> Huib
>
>

Hi,
Meanwhile done.
I did the installation via Custom install so i could simply deactivate the
incoming scanning.

But technically i am interested if that would be the reason how it is
possible that this happen and secondly AVG is by now indicating that i am
not protected.
How far is it true that performing incoming e-mail scanning has no sense?

Regards
Huib

"Ron Sommer" <> schreef in bericht
news:...
> Uninstall AVG. Do a custom install and do not install the email
> component.
> --
> Ron Sommer
> MS MVP-Mail
>
> "Huib" <> wrote in message
> news:4af7fa40$0$2854$...
>> Hi,
>> The problem is already mentioned in other mails but i didn't found any
>> real solution.
>>
>> I happens that an account is receiving non-stop messages, the counter is
>> running continously and i have to interrupt to be avle to continue.
>>
>> Afterwards it is working normally, it is not always on the same acount
>> and not every time when looking for new messages.
>>
>> The accounts are all pop3-accounts from and not hot-mails.
>>
>> Yes, WM is still on the systeem but no more in use, further i am using
>> AVG 9.0 where the incoming e-mail scanning is active.
>>
>> So, the problem is may be into WLM (14.0.8089.0726) or into the AVG 9.0?
>>
>> Regards
>> Huib
>>
>>

Hi Ron,
I just had the same problem now with another account while the incoming
e-mail scanning was off.
Conclusion : a bug in WLM ?

Regards
Huib

"Huib" <> schreef in bericht
news:4af80a40$0$2847$...
> Hi,
> Meanwhile done.
> I did the installation via Custom install so i could simply deactivate the
> incoming scanning.
>
> But technically i am interested if that would be the reason how it is
> possible that this happen and secondly AVG is by now indicating that i am
> not protected.
> How far is it true that performing incoming e-mail scanning has no sense?
>
> Regards
> Huib
>
> "Ron Sommer" <> schreef in bericht
> news:...
>> Uninstall AVG. Do a custom install and do not install the email
>> component.
>> --
>> Ron Sommer
>> MS MVP-Mail
>>
>> "Huib" <> wrote in message
>> news:4af7fa40$0$2854$...
>>> Hi,
>>> The problem is already mentioned in other mails but i didn't found any
>>> real solution.
>>>
>>> I happens that an account is receiving non-stop messages, the counter is
>>> running continously and i have to interrupt to be avle to continue.
>>>
>>> Afterwards it is working normally, it is not always on the same acount
>>> and not every time when looking for new messages.
>>>
>>> The accounts are all pop3-accounts from and not hot-mails.
>>>
>>> Yes, WM is still on the systeem but no more in use, further i am using
>>> AVG 9.0 where the incoming e-mail scanning is active.
>>>
>>> So, the problem is may be into WLM (14.0.8089.0726) or into the AVG 9.0?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Huib
>>>
>>>
>
>
>

Sometimes it is not sufficient to disable email scanning.
Remove AVG, reinstall using the Custom option, and do not install the email scanning option.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Huib" <> wrote in message news:4af849c0$0$2868$...
> Hi Ron,
> I just had the same problem now with another account while the incoming
> e-mail scanning was off.
> Conclusion : a bug in WLM ?
>
> Regards
> Huib
>
> "Huib" <> schreef in bericht
> news:4af80a40$0$2847$...
>> Hi,
>> Meanwhile done.
>> I did the installation via Custom install so i could simply deactivate the
>> incoming scanning.
>>
>> But technically i am interested if that would be the reason how it is
>> possible that this happen and secondly AVG is by now indicating that i am
>> not protected.
>> How far is it true that performing incoming e-mail scanning has no sense?
>>
>> Regards
>> Huib
>>
>> "Ron Sommer" <> schreef in bericht
>> news:...
>>> Uninstall AVG. Do a custom install and do not install the email
>>> component.
>>> --
>>> Ron Sommer
>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>
>>> "Huib" <> wrote in message
>>> news:4af7fa40$0$2854$...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> The problem is already mentioned in other mails but i didn't found any
>>>> real solution.
>>>>
>>>> I happens that an account is receiving non-stop messages, the counter is
>>>> running continously and i have to interrupt to be avle to continue.
>>>>
>>>> Afterwards it is working normally, it is not always on the same acount
>>>> and not every time when looking for new messages.
>>>>
>>>> The accounts are all pop3-accounts from and not hot-mails.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, WM is still on the systeem but no more in use, further i am using
>>>> AVG 9.0 where the incoming e-mail scanning is active.
>>>>
>>>> So, the problem is may be into WLM (14.0.8089.0726) or into the AVG 9.0?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Huib
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Hi,
I will do it the comings day, but i would like to receive first a technical
explanation how that can happen.

Is it only taking place with AVG?
Why did i never have it with AVG and WM?

Regards
Huib

"...winston" <> schreef in bericht
news:...
> Sometimes it is not sufficient to disable email scanning.
> Remove AVG, reinstall using the Custom option, and do not install the
> email scanning option.
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "Huib" <> wrote in message
> news:4af849c0$0$2868$...
>> Hi Ron,
>> I just had the same problem now with another account while the incoming
>> e-mail scanning was off.
>> Conclusion : a bug in WLM ?
>>
>> Regards
>> Huib
>>
>> "Huib" <> schreef in bericht
>> news:4af80a40$0$2847$...
>>> Hi,
>>> Meanwhile done.
>>> I did the installation via Custom install so i could simply deactivate
>>> the incoming scanning.
>>>
>>> But technically i am interested if that would be the reason how it is
>>> possible that this happen and secondly AVG is by now indicating that i
>>> am not protected.
>>> How far is it true that performing incoming e-mail scanning has no
>>> sense?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Huib
>>>
>>> "Ron Sommer" <> schreef in bericht
>>> news:...
>>>> Uninstall AVG. Do a custom install and do not install the email
>>>> component.
>>>> --
>>>> Ron Sommer
>>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>>
>>>> "Huib" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:4af7fa40$0$2854$...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> The problem is already mentioned in other mails but i didn't found any
>>>>> real solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> I happens that an account is receiving non-stop messages, the counter
>>>>> is running continously and i have to interrupt to be avle to continue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Afterwards it is working normally, it is not always on the same acount
>>>>> and not every time when looking for new messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> The accounts are all pop3-accounts from and not hot-mails.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, WM is still on the systeem but no more in use, further i am using
>>>>> AVG 9.0 where the incoming e-mail scanning is active.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, the problem is may be into WLM (14.0.8089.0726) or into the AVG
>>>>> 9.0?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Huib
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

What POP3 mail service are you using? Yahoo, Gmail, etc.?

Have you set to leave a copy of message on the server (Tools, Accounts,
Mail, Properties, Advanced)?

If you use the Mail services web mail to look at the account, are there
any messages in the Inbox there?

With POP3, the mail server controls what messages are available for
download. Normally, that's just what's in the server Inbox. In the
case of Yahoo, there is a setting on the web interface to also download
the Spam folder.

If you use the option to leave a copy on the server, then your mail
client (e.g. WLM) tracks the Ids (UIDL) of message that it has
previously downloaded. Then each time it checks for new messages, it
must ask the server the id of each message still on the server. Then
the mail client checks its list to see if the message has been
previously downloaded. If there are 1,000 still in the Inbox on the
server, then the mail client must ask for the id of each an every one of
those 1,000 messages to determine if there are any that it doesn't have.
That's the way POP3 works.

If you are leaving messages on the server and WLM starts downloading
messages that it previously downloaded, then one of two things have
happened.
1) WLM has lost or corrupted its record of message ids and so doesn't
know that it has previously downloaded some messages.
2) Something has happened on the mail server to alter the message UIDL,
which is not supposed to happen.

One person reported that WLM would start downloading messages from Yahoo
even though there were no messages in Yahoo. That would indicate that
the person either has his anti-virus set to scan e-mail or was running
an anti-spam program. In either of those cases, the anti-virus or
anti-spam sets itself up as the POP3 server to WLM. So that program
could be feeding WLM some messages that it has from some storage.

--

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"Huib" <> wrote in message
news:4af849c0$0$2868$...
> Hi Ron,
> I just had the same problem now with another account while the
> incoming e-mail scanning was off.
> Conclusion : a bug in WLM ?
>
> Regards
> Huib
>
> "Huib" <> schreef in bericht
> news:4af80a40$0$2847$...
>> Hi,
>> Meanwhile done.
>> I did the installation via Custom install so i could simply
>> deactivate the incoming scanning.
>>
>> But technically i am interested if that would be the reason how it is
>> possible that this happen and secondly AVG is by now indicating that
>> i am not protected.
>> How far is it true that performing incoming e-mail scanning has no
>> sense?
>>
>> Regards
>> Huib
>>
>> "Ron Sommer" <> schreef in bericht
>> news:...
>>> Uninstall AVG. Do a custom install and do not install the email
>>> component.
>>> --
>>> Ron Sommer
>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>
>>> "Huib" <> wrote in message
>>> news:4af7fa40$0$2854$...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> The problem is already mentioned in other mails but i didn't found
>>>> any real solution.
>>>>
>>>> I happens that an account is receiving non-stop messages, the
>>>> counter is running continously and i have to interrupt to be avle
>>>> to continue.
>>>>
>>>> Afterwards it is working normally, it is not always on the same
>>>> acount and not every time when looking for new messages.
>>>>
>>>> The accounts are all pop3-accounts from and not hot-mails.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, WM is still on the systeem but no more in use, further i am
>>>> using AVG 9.0 where the incoming e-mail scanning is active.
>>>>
>>>> So, the problem is may be into WLM (14.0.8089.0726) or into the AVG
>>>> 9.0?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Huib
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Hi,
Thanks for the explication: herewith some answers and further details.

-The POP3 mail service is an official provider (not Yahoo, Gmail) ..and no
hotmail at all.
-During the installation of the accounts in WLM the setting to leave a copy
onto the server was automatically done although i didn't perform any action
(by
now they are for sure not marked).
-I am not using Webmail but also their are no messages left.

The server has his own anti-virus and spam-filter : but that is the last one
i prefer to remove!!
Do you think that is worthwhile to suspect that one and should i contact my
provider about it?

I recently installed AVG 9.0
-i did a custom install and even when the incoming e-mail is off it happens
sometimes
-within AVG there is also SPAM filter which cannot be set off
-i just dedected that Windows Defender (the Vista Spamfilter was off), i
activated him again (Could that be a reason?)

Regards
Huib

"Michael Santovec" <> schreef in bericht
news:#...
> What POP3 mail service are you using? Yahoo, Gmail, etc.?
>
> Have you set to leave a copy of message on the server (Tools, Accounts,
> Mail, Properties, Advanced)?
>
> If you use the Mail services web mail to look at the account, are there
> any messages in the Inbox there?
>
> With POP3, the mail server controls what messages are available for
> download. Normally, that's just what's in the server Inbox. In the case
> of Yahoo, there is a setting on the web interface to also download the
> Spam folder.
>
> If you use the option to leave a copy on the server, then your mail client
> (e.g. WLM) tracks the Ids (UIDL) of message that it has previously
> downloaded. Then each time it checks for new messages, it must ask the
> server the id of each message still on the server. Then the mail client
> checks its list to see if the message has been previously downloaded. If
> there are 1,000 still in the Inbox on the server, then the mail client
> must ask for the id of each an every one of those 1,000 messages to
> determine if there are any that it doesn't have. That's the way POP3
> works.
>
> If you are leaving messages on the server and WLM starts downloading
> messages that it previously downloaded, then one of two things have
> happened.
> 1) WLM has lost or corrupted its record of message ids and so doesn't know
> that it has previously downloaded some messages.
> 2) Something has happened on the mail server to alter the message UIDL,
> which is not supposed to happen.
>
> One person reported that WLM would start downloading messages from Yahoo
> even though there were no messages in Yahoo. That would indicate that the
> person either has his anti-virus set to scan e-mail or was running an
> anti-spam program. In either of those cases, the anti-virus or anti-spam
> sets itself up as the POP3 server to WLM. So that program could be
> feeding WLM some messages that it has from some storage.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>
>
>
> "Huib" <> wrote in message
> news:4af849c0$0$2868$...
>> Hi Ron,
>> I just had the same problem now with another account while the incoming
>> e-mail scanning was off.
>> Conclusion : a bug in WLM ?
>>
>> Regards
>> Huib
>>
>> "Huib" <> schreef in bericht
>> news:4af80a40$0$2847$...
>>> Hi,
>>> Meanwhile done.
>>> I did the installation via Custom install so i could simply deactivate
>>> the incoming scanning.
>>>
>>> But technically i am interested if that would be the reason how it is
>>> possible that this happen and secondly AVG is by now indicating that i
>>> am not protected.
>>> How far is it true that performing incoming e-mail scanning has no
>>> sense?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Huib
>>>
>>> "Ron Sommer" <> schreef in bericht
>>> news:...
>>>> Uninstall AVG. Do a custom install and do not install the email
>>>> component.
>>>> --
>>>> Ron Sommer
>>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>>
>>>> "Huib" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:4af7fa40$0$2854$...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> The problem is already mentioned in other mails but i didn't found any
>>>>> real solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> I happens that an account is receiving non-stop messages, the counter
>>>>> is running continously and i have to interrupt to be avle to continue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Afterwards it is working normally, it is not always on the same acount
>>>>> and not every time when looking for new messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> The accounts are all pop3-accounts from and not hot-mails.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, WM is still on the systeem but no more in use, further i am using
>>>>> AVG 9.0 where the incoming e-mail scanning is active.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, the problem is may be into WLM (14.0.8089.0726) or into the AVG
>>>>> 9.0?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Huib
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

This is a user to user peer forum, not Microsoft.
The suggestion is based on method that has consistently worked for others with similar problems as yours when reported in this and
other forums. Only you can verify if it works on your system.

Even Symantec the originator of email scanning has gone on record that scanning email is not necessary.

Why does it occur ? The simplest explanation, not necessarily the technical...the AV program(many AV's)interferes with the mail
clients ability to send/receive by interrupting the process causing it to be aborted, handshake the information, or time out prior
to completion..there may be other reasons too..


--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Huib" <> wrote in message news:4af867e2$0$2861$...
> Hi,
> I will do it the comings day, but i would like to receive first a technical explanation how that can happen.
>
> Is it only taking place with AVG?
> Why did i never have it with AVG and WM?
>
> Regards
> Huib
>
> "...winston" <> schreef in bericht news:...
>> Sometimes it is not sufficient to disable email scanning.
>> Remove AVG, reinstall using the Custom option, and do not install the email scanning option.
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>> "Huib" <> wrote in message news:4af849c0$0$2868$...
>>> Hi Ron,
>>> I just had the same problem now with another account while the incoming e-mail scanning was off.
>>> Conclusion : a bug in WLM ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Huib
>>>
>>> "Huib" <> schreef in bericht news:4af80a40$0$2847$...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Meanwhile done.
>>>> I did the installation via Custom install so i could simply deactivate the incoming scanning.
>>>>
>>>> But technically i am interested if that would be the reason how it is possible that this happen and secondly AVG is by now
>>>> indicating that i am not protected.
>>>> How far is it true that performing incoming e-mail scanning has no sense?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Huib
>>>>
>>>> "Ron Sommer" <> schreef in bericht news:...
>>>>> Uninstall AVG. Do a custom install and do not install the email component.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ron Sommer
>>>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>>>
>>>>> "Huib" <> wrote in message news:4af7fa40$0$2854$...
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> The problem is already mentioned in other mails but i didn't found any real solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I happens that an account is receiving non-stop messages, the counter is running continously and i have to interrupt to be
>>>>>> avle to continue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afterwards it is working normally, it is not always on the same acount and not every time when looking for new messages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The accounts are all pop3-accounts from and not hot-mails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, WM is still on the systeem but no more in use, further i am using AVG 9.0 where the incoming e-mail scanning is active.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the problem is may be into WLM (14.0.8089.0726) or into the AVG 9.0?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Huib
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>

If the problem did not happen before, you were lucky.
Email scanning in any antivirus should be disabled, for reasons
explained here:
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm

For some AV programs, simply disabling email scanning may not be
sufficient. In that case the AV program needs to be uninstalled, then
reinstalled without the email scanning module.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen


"Huib" <> wrote in message news:4af867e2$0$2861$...
> Hi,
> I will do it the comings day, but i would like to receive first a technical
> explanation how that can happen.
>
> Is it only taking place with AVG?
> Why did i never have it with AVG and WM?
>
> Regards
> Huib
>
> "...winston" <> schreef in bericht
> news:...
>> Sometimes it is not sufficient to disable email scanning.
>> Remove AVG, reinstall using the Custom option, and do not install the
>> email scanning option.
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>> "Huib" <> wrote in message
>> news:4af849c0$0$2868$...
>>> Hi Ron,
>>> I just had the same problem now with another account while the incoming
>>> e-mail scanning was off.
>>> Conclusion : a bug in WLM ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Huib
>>>
>>> "Huib" <> schreef in bericht
>>> news:4af80a40$0$2847$...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Meanwhile done.
>>>> I did the installation via Custom install so i could simply deactivate
>>>> the incoming scanning.
>>>>
>>>> But technically i am interested if that would be the reason how it is
>>>> possible that this happen and secondly AVG is by now indicating that i
>>>> am not protected.
>>>> How far is it true that performing incoming e-mail scanning has no
>>>> sense?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Huib
>>>>
>>>> "Ron Sommer" <> schreef in bericht
>>>> news:...
>>>>> Uninstall AVG. Do a custom install and do not install the email
>>>>> component.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ron Sommer
>>>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>>>
>>>>> "Huib" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4af7fa40$0$2854$...
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> The problem is already mentioned in other mails but i didn't found any
>>>>>> real solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I happens that an account is receiving non-stop messages, the counter
>>>>>> is running continously and i have to interrupt to be avle to continue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afterwards it is working normally, it is not always on the same acount
>>>>>> and not every time when looking for new messages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The accounts are all pop3-accounts from and not hot-mails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, WM is still on the systeem but no more in use, further i am using
>>>>>> AVG 9.0 where the incoming e-mail scanning is active.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the problem is may be into WLM (14.0.8089.0726) or into the AVG
>>>>>> 9.0?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Huib
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>