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Kim Aku
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      01-25-2006
I have a laptop which came with one of the first versions of XP Pro. As soon
as SP2 appeared I acquired the install CD and installed SP2 without a hitch.
Since then I've dutifully allowed auto-update to installed all the subsequent
patches and security updates. The OS has never missed a beat and seems well
fortified against external attack, so I cannot imagine I'd ever want to
uninstall any update I've had so far.

However my 30GB disk is bursting with data, and I'd like to get rid of all
that update uninstall stuff I'll never use. If I just permanently delete
those zillions of $Uninstall files in my Windows folder, will that do the
trick, or will it leave other stuff I don't know about as well as confusing
the proper Uninstall control panel?

Is there not a proper officially santioned tool to remove all these backups
& stuff when the user is sure he's never going to want to roll back?
 
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Shenan Stanley
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      01-25-2006
Kim Aku wrote:
> I have a laptop which came with one of the first versions of XP
> Pro. As soon as SP2 appeared I acquired the install CD and
> installed SP2 without a hitch. Since then I've dutifully allowed
> auto-update to installed all the subsequent patches and security
> updates. The OS has never missed a beat and seems well fortified
> against external attack, so I cannot imagine I'd ever want to
> uninstall any update I've had so far.
>
> However my 30GB disk is bursting with data, and I'd like to get rid
> of all that update uninstall stuff I'll never use. If I just
> permanently delete those zillions of $Uninstall files in my Windows
> folder, will that do the trick, or will it leave other stuff I
> don't know about as well as confusing the proper Uninstall control
> panel?
>
> Is there not a proper officially santioned tool to remove all these
> backups & stuff when the user is sure he's never going to want to
> roll back?


You are not going to free up that much by deleting these. Your space is
being used up elsewhere. If you are concerned (and this is not a bad thing)
that you MAY have to rollback someday - then it might be easier to purchase
an external (USB/FireWire) drive and backup data to it (your personal data -
which is what is likely taking up the most space.)

Windows XP, Office 2003, and a dozen other applications wouldn't fill up
30GB of space - wouldn't likely take up 10GB even. So 2/3 of your space is
likely your files and some of those could likely be "archived" - to a CD/DVD
or external hard drive - so they do not take up the space on your system..
And if on a portable device like that - you could keep a copy at a safe
place AND bring a copy with you in case you need to access that older data.
Not to menation that since 300GB external hard drives can be had for less
than $200 - you increase your available space for portable and dynamically
useable data by 10 times.

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Kim Aku
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      01-25-2006
I much appreciate the time you have taken to give me such a full and
thoughtful reply.

I had already considered the options you mention, and I do have an external
80GB USB drive containing an up-to-date compressed image of the laptop drive,
plus weekly incrememtal backups (including those $NtUninstall files), but for
reasons I won't go into now I would still value the nearly 300MB space that I
could free up by losing uninstall stuff I KNOW I will not use. I need all
that user data (mostly wav files) daily in the course of my work. And I KNOW
300MB is less than 30 mins @ 16bit/44k1, but I'd LIKE to have those extra
mins right there in my lap...

And I lied when I told you it has a 30GB drive -- in fact it has 40GB, but
there's an untouchable 10GB partition which is full of fixed processing data
and lookup tables used for my work.

So if you DO know an answer to my original question, I STILL (however
misguidedly) want to get that stuff off my beloved ThinkPad a21P. (1600x1200
screen, even back in year 2000!).

Thanks again for your cosiderate reply -- please don't take the above as
ingratitude...


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Kim Aku wrote:
> > I have a laptop which came with one of the first versions of XP
> > Pro. As soon as SP2 appeared I acquired the install CD and
> > installed SP2 without a hitch. Since then I've dutifully allowed
> > auto-update to installed all the subsequent patches and security
> > updates. The OS has never missed a beat and seems well fortified
> > against external attack, so I cannot imagine I'd ever want to
> > uninstall any update I've had so far.
> >
> > However my 30GB disk is bursting with data, and I'd like to get rid
> > of all that update uninstall stuff I'll never use. If I just
> > permanently delete those zillions of $Uninstall files in my Windows
> > folder, will that do the trick, or will it leave other stuff I
> > don't know about as well as confusing the proper Uninstall control
> > panel?
> >
> > Is there not a proper officially santioned tool to remove all these
> > backups & stuff when the user is sure he's never going to want to
> > roll back?

>
> You are not going to free up that much by deleting these. Your space is
> being used up elsewhere. If you are concerned (and this is not a bad thing)
> that you MAY have to rollback someday - then it might be easier to purchase
> an external (USB/FireWire) drive and backup data to it (your personal data -
> which is what is likely taking up the most space.)
>
> Windows XP, Office 2003, and a dozen other applications wouldn't fill up
> 30GB of space - wouldn't likely take up 10GB even. So 2/3 of your space is
> likely your files and some of those could likely be "archived" - to a CD/DVD
> or external hard drive - so they do not take up the space on your system..
> And if on a portable device like that - you could keep a copy at a safe
> place AND bring a copy with you in case you need to access that older data.
> Not to menation that since 300GB external hard drives can be had for less
> than $200 - you increase your available space for portable and dynamically
> useable data by 10 times.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

 
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Shenan Stanley
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      01-25-2006
Kim Aku wrote:
> I much appreciate the time you have taken to give me such a full and
> thoughtful reply.
>
> I had already considered the options you mention, and I do have an
> external 80GB USB drive containing an up-to-date compressed image
> of the laptop drive, plus weekly incrememtal backups (including
> those $NtUninstall files), but for reasons I won't go into now I
> would still value the nearly 300MB space that I could free up by
> losing uninstall stuff I KNOW I will not use. I need all that user
> data (mostly wav files) daily in the course of my work. And I KNOW
> 300MB is less than 30 mins @ 16bit/44k1, but I'd LIKE to have those
> extra mins right there in my lap...
>
> And I lied when I told you it has a 30GB drive -- in fact it has
> 40GB, but there's an untouchable 10GB partition which is full of
> fixed processing data and lookup tables used for my work.
>
> So if you DO know an answer to my original question, I STILL
> (however misguidedly) want to get that stuff off my beloved
> ThinkPad a21P. (1600x1200 screen, even back in year 2000!).
>
> Thanks again for your cosiderate reply -- please don't take the
> above as ingratitude...


http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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      01-25-2006
Kim;
The uninstall files may be safely deleted:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

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"Kim Aku" <> wrote in message
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>I have a laptop which came with one of the first versions of XP Pro. As
>soon
> as SP2 appeared I acquired the install CD and installed SP2 without a
> hitch.
> Since then I've dutifully allowed auto-update to installed all the
> subsequent
> patches and security updates. The OS has never missed a beat and seems
> well
> fortified against external attack, so I cannot imagine I'd ever want to
> uninstall any update I've had so far.
>
> However my 30GB disk is bursting with data, and I'd like to get rid of all
> that update uninstall stuff I'll never use. If I just permanently delete
> those zillions of $Uninstall files in my Windows folder, will that do the
> trick, or will it leave other stuff I don't know about as well as
> confusing
> the proper Uninstall control panel?
>
> Is there not a proper officially santioned tool to remove all these
> backups
> & stuff when the user is sure he's never going to want to roll back?



 
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