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carkct
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      04-27-2009

Hi,
Last month I got a HP laptop and I forgot to take recovery disks.
Due to some problems, my OS got corrupted and so I re installed vista
ultimate x64 in my laptop. I have installed all the necessary driver
softwares. Can I create a recovery parition or recovery disks with the
current setup? If yes, how? Also how many times can I create recovery
disks? Is it a one time process?


regards,
suresh


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Malke
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      04-27-2009
carkct wrote:

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> Hi,
> Last month I got a HP laptop and I forgot to take recovery disks.
> Due to some problems, my OS got corrupted and so I re installed vista
> ultimate x64 in my laptop. I have installed all the necessary driver
> softwares. Can I create a recovery parition or recovery disks with the
> current setup? If yes, how? Also how many times can I create recovery
> disks? Is it a one time process?


When you did a restore to factory condition, the recovery partition would
have been created. Look in the Start Menu for an HP entry>Recovery Disk
Creation.

You can create a recovery disk set one time only. If you somehow destroyed
the recovery partition and can't make a set of physical disks, call HP tech
support and order one. This will be very inexpensive, around $20.

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carkct
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      04-27-2009

Hi,
Thanks for ur reply. I have contacted HP and as the recovery disk
was out of stock, I re installed my OS with a new VISTA 64 bit Ultimate
version. I dont want HP recovery now. I just want to create a recovery
parition with the current setup. Is it possible?

regards,
suresh


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Steve McGarrett
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      04-27-2009
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:34:39 -0500, carkct <>
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>Hi,
>Thanks for ur reply. I have contacted HP and as the recovery disk
>was out of stock, I re installed my OS with a new VISTA 64 bit Ultimate
>version. I dont want HP recovery now. I just want to create a recovery
>parition with the current setup. Is it possible?


Not without spending some money. Acronis True Image will create such
a recovery partition for you - Acronis calls it the Secure Zone.

Google it - or go to newegg.com. They have the best prices.
 
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carkct
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      04-27-2009

Hi,
After creating the recovery disks, if I am facing any problem in OS,
How can I restore using these disks?

I know the procedure to restore using '*Backup and Restore Center*'. I
need to know how to restore when the OS itself is not working. Suppose
when it stops as soon as I switch on my laptop. Last time I got an error
- BOOT MGR file is missing. How can i restore under these conditions?


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Brink
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      04-27-2009

Hello Suresh,

This link at HP can help show you how to do a factory restore of Vista
with or without the recovery discs.

'HP Notebook PCs*-* Using HP Backup and Recovery Manager*'
(http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c00809678)

Hope this helps,
Shawn

carkct;1029346 Wrote:
> Hi,
> After creating the recovery disks, if I am facing any problem in OS,
> How can I restore using these disks?
>
> I know the procedure to restore using '*Backup and Restore Center*'. I
> need to know how to restore when the OS itself is not working. Suppose
> when it stops as soon as I switch on my laptop. Last time I got an error
> - BOOT MGR file is missing. How can i restore under these conditions?



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Chad Harris
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      04-27-2009


"carkct" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi,
> Last month I got a HP laptop and I forgot to take recovery disks.
> Due to some problems, my OS got corrupted and so I re installed vista
> ultimate x64 in my laptop. I have installed all the necessary driver
> softwares. Can I create a recovery parition or recovery disks with the
> current setup? If yes, how? Also how many times can I create recovery
> disks? Is it a one time process?
>
>
> regards,
> suresh


Hello Carkct and Shuresh--

Please read all of this.

People who mention recovery disks usually want to repair their computer or
are thinking about what to do when and if they have to.

Microsoft has addressed this problem, but they tripped. In other words
Microsoft had a way to make a disk with the full panoply of Startup Repair
Tools, including Startup Repair, Bootrec switches run from the command
prompt in Startup Repair, System Restore and Memory Testing but they pulled
it at the last minute from SP1 RTM's (it was in the Beta) Start Menu and
they hid it in System 32 where it sits and can be used as recdisc.exe but
you have to tweak permissions and that's a hassle for some people--we have
MVPs here who couldn't get that done.

In Win 7 it's all fixed, and it will stay on the All Programs Menu listed
under Maintenance. It's in the RC that's on Technet and MSDN right now,
will be available starting from May 5-10 to the public as a "CPP",and it
will be shipped to stores as well in the coming months as Win 7 RTM.

But a smart person would realize this. Recovery disks

a) only restore to a formatted drive with a clean Vista on it. They don't
save anything you have worked to put on that Vista you had.
b) Sometimes you have to hunt around like Harrison Ford in Raiders of the
Lost Ark to find them if ever, and you're charge for them.

To do this when you want your OS back is ridiculous. So if you don't have a
Vista DVD, and I'm unaware of any OEM who is shipping a Microsoft Vista or
Win 7 DVD with their new computers--someone chime in if you know who does
this because I know about 300+ OEMs who don't including Dell who lied about
promising to do it--then here's the way to do it. I also included
screenshots of how and where MSFT hid the ability to make a repair disk in
System 32 as of Vista SP1, and how it will look when you decide to use
Windows 7 which could be as soon as a ten days if you're not already using
it--and many of you are.

If you do not have a Microsoft Vista or Windows 7 Official DVD:
Download Vista Repair Disk .Iso and Burn it to Media (Can fit on a CD or a
DVD)
http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/window...disc-download/

If you have Windows 7 you can do the same thing by going to Start>All
Programs>Maintenance>Create a System Repair Disk

Screenshots of Microsoft's Raiders of the Lost Ark Game Included in Vista
SP1 which does have a way to make a Repair Disk (Startup Repair Disk) and
Where it is Located in Windows 7 All Builds through Windows 7 RTM including
the now on Technet/MSDN Win 7 RC1 (Build 7100)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chadharris16

***How to Fix and Restore your Vista or Windows 7 if you cannot Boot Due to
Software Corruption***--this will work in the majority of "I can't boot
Vista and Windows 7 Situations" because the majority of them are
statistically software caused/induced.

***Recovery Disks save none of your settings, files, folders, pics, videos,
music, or Documents. These methods save everything when they work and they
do a high percentage of the time.

***Always rule out hardware problems and hard disk problems first. They are
the minority of no boot causes, but of course should be ruled out. You can
use Seagate tools to test your hard disk with about 90% accuracy. If you
have a Dell, you can use Ctrl+Alt+D to test your hard disk during boot up.
I have seen both tests, and many others, claim that the hard disk was
"fried", and for some reason after doing the bootrec commands, the hard disk
found electormagnetism enough to run for a year. I'm not beginning to
assert that the bootrec commands restored electromagnetism to a hard disk.
That would be crazy, and I like to avoid that situation. But I am saying
that like hundreds of medical lab tests, these tests are not perfect. The
so called hard disk tests have a percent accuracy, including Seagate Tools,
and they have false positives and negatives, just as hundreds of clinical
lab tests in patients do.

If you do not have a Microsoft Vista or Windows 7 Official DVD:
Download Vista Repair Disk .Iso and Burn it to Media (Can fit on a CD or a
DVD)
http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/window...disc-download/

If you have Windows 7 you can do the same thing by going to Start>All
Programs>Maintenance>Create a System Repair Disk

How to Use Startup Repair from the Vista DVD or the Repair Disk you make:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...torial142.html

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx

1) First try 3 options from Startup Repair. If you have a Vista DVD then
restart with it in the drive>press any key to boot from it and run Startup
Repair. From Startup Repair you have 3 good tools with an excellent chance
of fixing your system. If you don't have a Vista DVD from which to boot to
Startup Repair, no problem, Download the .iso from the link below and
burn it, and you'll have the Microsoft Vista Repair Disk with Startup
Repair.

Download Vista Repair Disk
http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/window...disc-download/

How to Use Startup Repair from the Vista DVD or the Repair Disk you make:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...torial142.html

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx

2) If Startup Repair does not get your Vista back, then use the 3 bootrec
commands from the command prompt available on the Statup Repair Menu:

The menu I refer to is in this set of directions with a grey background.

http://vistahomepremium.windowsreins...airstartup.htm

Those are:

bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot
bootrec /rebuild BCD

3) If my second option doesn't work, then try System restore from the
Startup Repair list.

1) First try 3 options from Startup Repair. If you have a Vista DVD then
restart with it in the drive>press any key to boot from it and run Startup
Repair. From Startup Repair you have 3 good tools with an excellent chance
of fixing your system. If you don't have a Vista DVD from which to boot to
Startup Repair, no problem, Download the .iso from the link below and
burn it, and you'll have the Microsoft Vista Repair Disk with Startup
Repair.

Download Vista Repair Disk
http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/window...disc-download/

How to Use Startup Repair from the Vista DVD or the Repair Disk you make:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...torial142.html

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx

2) If Startup Repair does not get your Vista back, then use the 3 bootrec
commands from the command prompt available on the Statup Repair Menu:

The menu I refer to is in this set of directions with a grey background.

http://vistahomepremium.windowsreins...airstartup.htm

Those are:

bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot
bootrec /rebuild BCD

3) If my second option doesn't work, then try System restore from theStartup
Repair list.

4) If by rare chance you have an actual Vista DVD, you can put it in, boot
from it>choose the Upgrade Option>choose your current broken Vista Drive and
try to do a repair install with the Vista DVD.

How To Perform a Repair Installation For Vista
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88...all-vista.html

5) If the above 3 tools don't work, then use the 4 tools available by
restarting your pc and tapping F8 once per second to get to the Windows
Advanced Options Menu.

From this menu click on 3 Safe Mode links to use System Restore. Make sure
you try all 3 if one doesn't work, because just one of them may work. Tap F8
to Reach Windows Advanced Options Menu Pictured Below:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/v...ot-Options.jpg

Safe Mode
Safe Mode with Networking
Safe Mode with Command: At the prompt you would type the command to use for
system restore at the safe mode cmd prompt is:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe

If these 3 tools don't work, you have one more you can try which is Last
Known Good Configuration.

Good luck,

CH




 
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Richard Urban
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      04-27-2009
I would never - ever trust what comes with the operating system to get you
out of hot water. There are 3rd party products that are far superior!

It was recommended that you use Acronis TrueImage. I suggest that you do so!

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"carkct" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi,
> After creating the recovery disks, if I am facing any problem in OS,
> How can I restore using these disks?
>
> I know the procedure to restore using '*Backup and Restore Center*'. I
> need to know how to restore when the OS itself is not working. Suppose
> when it stops as soon as I switch on my laptop. Last time I got an error
> - BOOT MGR file is missing. How can i restore under these conditions?
>
>
> --
> carkct


 
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Steve McGarrett
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      04-27-2009
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:26:59 -0500, Brink <>
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>Hello Suresh,
>
>This link at HP can help show you how to do a factory restore of Vista
>with or without the recovery discs.


No Way. "Suresh" already performed a clean install of Vista.
 
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Steve McGarrett
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      04-27-2009
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:43:38 -0500, carkct <>
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>Hi,
>After creating the recovery disks, if I am facing any problem in OS,
>How can I restore using these disks?
>
>I know the procedure to restore using '*Backup and Restore Center*'. I
>need to know how to restore when the OS itself is not working. Suppose
>when it stops as soon as I switch on my laptop. Last time I got an error
>- BOOT MGR file is missing. How can i restore under these conditions?


I am guessing you're replying to my post about Acronis and its
creation of a Secure Zone.

It doesn't create recovery discs.
 
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