Register Fcleaner.

I just purchased System Suite 8 and installed it on my XP system and it
cleaned up 1500 entries on my register. I also installed it on my VISTA
machine and it cleaned up a lot but it can't clean up 52 register error on
the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Classes/CLSID. Is there some reason why it
can;can't clean them up?
Thanks for any insight.
TonySper

TonySper wrote:
> I just purchased System Suite 8 and installed it on my XP system and it
> cleaned up 1500 entries on my register. I also installed it on my VISTA
> machine and it cleaned up a lot but it can't clean up 52 register error on
> the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Classes/CLSID. Is there some reason why it
> can;can't clean them up?
> Thanks for any insight.
> TonySper
>
>


Probably because it's a worthless snake oil remedy whose sole purpose
is to separate you from some of your money?

Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.


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TonySper wrote:
> I just purchased System Suite 8 and installed it on my XP system and it
> cleaned up 1500 entries on my register. I also installed it on my VISTA
> machine and it cleaned up a lot but it can't clean up 52 register error on
> the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Classes/CLSID. Is there some reason why it
> can;can't clean them up?
> Thanks for any insight.
> TonySper
>
>

I used to use SystemSuite's Registry Fixer and swore by it since version
3. No more. I did a clean install of XP and did not use the Registry
Fixer and it runs faster and boots faster than ever. Leave the registry
alone. That said, SystemSuite's clean up is nice but that's about it. I
use it along with Crap Cleaner. Like SS, I don't use the Issues feature
of Crap Cleaner. I don't use the Trend Micro or Sygate firewall that
comes with SS either. I use Comodo for a firewall and Avast for an AV.

Alias

On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:05:11 -0500, "TonySper"
<> wrote:

> I just purchased System Suite 8 and installed it on my XP system and it
> cleaned up 1500 entries on my register. I also installed it on my VISTA
> machine and it cleaned up a lot but it can't clean up 52 register error on
> the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Classes/CLSID. Is there some reason why it
> can;can't clean them up?


All registry cleaners are scams at best. At worst, they can completely
hose your system.

I strongly suggest you avoid using any registry cleaning program. They
are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Well Thank you all for the good advice and the long warnings. I do know how
to edit the register and have the same feelings that you all have. I was
just wondering why those registers can't be cleaned out. They appear to be
from unused hardware devices. These are on a Dell Laptop that I have been
using now for 6 months and it is slower than heck. Hate the VISTA on it but
in order to get he built in wireless Dell would not install XP on it if I
wanted wireless. So I got VISTA. I have been thinking that maybe Dell put
all these drivers on the machine in the event that they were installed. Are
they protected or what. If I delete them by hand what happens?? From all
your suggestions; just leave them alone. I hate the VISTA. Will they ever
speed it up. Think they took a backwards step. Slower than my old 600 M
machine.
Thanks again.
TonySper

"Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
news...
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:05:11 -0500, "TonySper"
> <> wrote:
>
>> I just purchased System Suite 8 and installed it on my XP system and it
>> cleaned up 1500 entries on my register. I also installed it on my VISTA
>> machine and it cleaned up a lot but it can't clean up 52 register error
>> on
>> the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Classes/CLSID. Is there some reason why
>> it
>> can;can't clean them up?
>
>
> All registry cleaners are scams at best. At worst, they can completely
> hose your system.
>
> I strongly suggest you avoid using any registry cleaning program. They
> are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
> dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
> cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
> cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
> entries doesn't really hurt you.
>
> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
> removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
> it may have.
>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Well, most of the preinstalled OEM stuff can be removed.
I use classic menus and set the system to run 'for best performance'.
That means no Aero, shadowing, slide out menus, etc.
If I want 'pretty' I'll go to a beach or art gallery...I just want my
computer to run!
I also make sure there are no unneeded programs running at startup.
Many OEMs and a lot of programs (like AOL) load all their stuff at startup
'just in case' you want to use it, it will load a second or 2 faster.
To me that thinking is just plain stupid, but the marketing department says
otherwise.
When I see programs like QuickTime, Adode Reader, etc loading in my system
tray 'just in case' I have a terrible urge to uninstall them and find an
alternate program that doesn't run when it wants, but rather when I want.
So check your startup programs and remove anything that you don't need.

--
A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!

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"TonySper" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Well Thank you all for the good advice and the long warnings. I do know
> how to edit the register and have the same feelings that you all have. I
> was just wondering why those registers can't be cleaned out. They appear
> to be from unused hardware devices. These are on a Dell Laptop that I have
> been using now for 6 months and it is slower than heck. Hate the VISTA on
> it but in order to get he built in wireless Dell would not install XP on
> it if I wanted wireless. So I got VISTA. I have been thinking that maybe
> Dell put all these drivers on the machine in the event that they were
> installed. Are they protected or what. If I delete them by hand what
> happens?? From all your suggestions; just leave them alone. I hate the
> VISTA. Will they ever speed it up. Think they took a backwards step.
> Slower than my old 600 M machine.
> Thanks again.
> TonySper
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
> news...
>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:05:11 -0500, "TonySper"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> I just purchased System Suite 8 and installed it on my XP system and it
>>> cleaned up 1500 entries on my register. I also installed it on my VISTA
>>> machine and it cleaned up a lot but it can't clean up 52 register error
>>> on
>>> the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Classes/CLSID. Is there some reason why
>>> it
>>> can;can't clean them up?
>>
>>
>> All registry cleaners are scams at best. At worst, they can completely
>> hose your system.
>>
>> I strongly suggest you avoid using any registry cleaning program. They
>> are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
>> dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
>> cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
>> cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
>> entries doesn't really hurt you.
>>
>> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
>> removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
>> it may have.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
>

On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:50:52 -0500, "TonySper"
<> wrote:

> Well Thank you all for the good advice and the long warnings.


You're welcome. Glad to help.


> I do know how
> to edit the register and have the same feelings that you all have. I was
> just wondering why those registers can't be cleaned out. They appear to be
> from unused hardware devices. These are on a Dell Laptop that I have been
> using now for 6 months and it is slower than heck. Hate the VISTA on it but
> in order to get he built in wireless Dell would not install XP on it if I
> wanted wireless. So I got VISTA. I have been thinking that maybe Dell put
> all these drivers on the machine in the event that they were installed. Are
> they protected or what. If I delete them by hand what happens?? From all
> your suggestions; just leave them alone.


Right.


> I hate the VISTA. Will they ever
> speed it up. Think they took a backwards step. Slower than my old 600 M
> machine.


That's not my experience at all. I have no performance problems with
Vista.

What is your hardware configuration? Vista needs a more powerful
machine than XP--particularly the amount of RAM--and a machine that
was configured for XP will very likely not run Vista well.


> "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
> news...
> > On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:05:11 -0500, "TonySper"
> > <> wrote:
> >
> >> I just purchased System Suite 8 and installed it on my XP system and it
> >> cleaned up 1500 entries on my register. I also installed it on my VISTA
> >> machine and it cleaned up a lot but it can't clean up 52 register error
> >> on
> >> the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Classes/CLSID. Is there some reason why
> >> it
> >> can;can't clean them up?
> >
> >
> > All registry cleaners are scams at best. At worst, they can completely
> > hose your system.
> >
> > I strongly suggest you avoid using any registry cleaning program. They
> > are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
> > dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
> > cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
> > cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
> > entries doesn't really hurt you.
> >
> > The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
> > removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
> > it may have.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

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Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Try Foxit Reader as a replacement for Adobe. Much faster.

"Not Me" <> wrote in message
news:u4wwkf#...
> Well, most of the preinstalled OEM stuff can be removed.
> I use classic menus and set the system to run 'for best performance'.
> That means no Aero, shadowing, slide out menus, etc.
> If I want 'pretty' I'll go to a beach or art gallery...I just want my
> computer to run!
> I also make sure there are no unneeded programs running at startup.
> Many OEMs and a lot of programs (like AOL) load all their stuff at startup
> 'just in case' you want to use it, it will load a second or 2 faster.
> To me that thinking is just plain stupid, but the marketing department
> says otherwise.
> When I see programs like QuickTime, Adode Reader, etc loading in my system
> tray 'just in case' I have a terrible urge to uninstall them and find an
> alternate program that doesn't run when it wants, but rather when I want.
> So check your startup programs and remove anything that you don't need.
>
> --
> A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
>
> Change Alpha to Numeric to reply
> "TonySper" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Well Thank you all for the good advice and the long warnings. I do know
>> how to edit the register and have the same feelings that you all have. I
>> was just wondering why those registers can't be cleaned out. They appear
>> to be from unused hardware devices. These are on a Dell Laptop that I
>> have been using now for 6 months and it is slower than heck. Hate the
>> VISTA on it but in order to get he built in wireless Dell would not
>> install XP on it if I wanted wireless. So I got VISTA. I have been
>> thinking that maybe Dell put all these drivers on the machine in the
>> event that they were installed. Are they protected or what. If I delete
>> them by hand what happens?? From all your suggestions; just leave them
>> alone. I hate the VISTA. Will they ever speed it up. Think they took a
>> backwards step. Slower than my old 600 M machine.
>> Thanks again.
>> TonySper
>>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
>> news...
>>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:05:11 -0500, "TonySper"
>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just purchased System Suite 8 and installed it on my XP system and it
>>>> cleaned up 1500 entries on my register. I also installed it on my VISTA
>>>> machine and it cleaned up a lot but it can't clean up 52 register error
>>>> on
>>>> the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Classes/CLSID. Is there some reason why
>>>> it
>>>> can;can't clean them up?
>>>
>>>
>>> All registry cleaners are scams at best. At worst, they can completely
>>> hose your system.
>>>
>>> I strongly suggest you avoid using any registry cleaning program. They
>>> are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
>>> dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
>>> cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
>>> cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
>>> entries doesn't really hurt you.
>>>
>>> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
>>> removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
>>> it may have.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>
>>
>
>