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Liebach
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      05-25-2008
Does anyone knows of a good Windows Vista registry cleaner? Where is the
best cleaner? And where to download?

 
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      05-25-2008
Cleaning the registry is like putting your finger in your eye. It's an
unpleasant experience to do only when necessary, and carefully at that.
Getting some 'automated' way to do it is like taking a speck out of your eye
with an electric toothbrush.

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> Does anyone knows of a good Windows Vista registry cleaner? Where is the
> best cleaner? And where to download?


 
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      05-25-2008

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> Does anyone knows of a good Windows Vista registry cleaner? Where is the
> best cleaner? And where to download?
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Most will recommend against any registry cleaners.
I use CCleaner ... it both gets rid of temp internet files, temp files, and
other selectable items in one fell swoop.
And has an option for removing "lost" registry entries.
I 've never had an issue.

http://www.ccleaner.com/

 
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      05-25-2008
Unless you know exactly what you are doing, and I suspect not, or how to
recover your system when the use of such a third party tool renders the
system inoperable, avoid them, they are not really necessary anyway, and
have not been snce win9*

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> Does anyone knows of a good Windows Vista registry cleaner? Where is the
> best cleaner? And where to download?



 
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Bruce Chambers
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      05-25-2008
Liebach wrote:
> Does anyone knows of a good Windows Vista registry cleaner? Where is the
> best cleaner? And where to download?



There is no such thing as a "good" registry cleaner, free or otherwise.

Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
wide-spread multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to
safely clean your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry "cleaner,"
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.


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      05-25-2008

"Hobbes" <> wrote in message news:g1bvj1$f75$...
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> "Liebach" <> wrote in message
> news:8CD0583A-DFEF-42CA-B70B-...
>> Does anyone knows of a good Windows Vista registry cleaner? Where is the
>> best cleaner? And where to download?
>>

>
> Most will recommend against any registry cleaners.
> I use CCleaner ... it both gets rid of temp internet files, temp files,
> and other selectable items in one fell swoop.
> And has an option for removing "lost" registry entries.
> I 've never had an issue.
>
> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>


But if you use it, be careful of settings like "Hotfix Uninstallers".
Selecting such items could make the uninstall of a hotfix not possible.
Don't select any settings you aren't sure of...

 
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      05-25-2008
Hobbes wrote:
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> Most will recommend against any registry cleaners.



For good reason: They're nothing but snake oil that do absolutely
nothing useful.


> I use CCleaner ... it both gets rid of temp internet files, temp files,
> and other selectable items in one fell swoop.
> And has an option for removing "lost" registry entries.
> I 've never had an issue.
>



CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as you
step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it
really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let the
application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported
"issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a
brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed, and
certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still
managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and
dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it clearly a worthless
product, in this regard. (Not that any registry cleaner can ever be
anything but worthless, as they don't serve any useful purpose, to start
with.)

CCleaner's only real strength, and the only reason I use it, lies
in its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard
drive; as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse
than any other snake oil product of the same type.


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      05-25-2008
Liebach wrote:
> Does anyone knows of a good Windows Vista registry cleaner? Where is
> the best cleaner? And where to download?


I use Crap Cleaner once in a while.
It's free and have had no problems with it.
http://www.ccleaner.com/

I only use a registry cleaner because I often do searches in the registry
and it keeps the search time down if you remove useless keys.
If you have no need to do searches etc. then I wouldn't bother with a cleaner.
Cleaning your registry won't make your machine suddenly better, and there is a chance
it might remove something you didn't want it to.

If you do decide to use one, check carefully what it wants to remove.
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      05-25-2008

"Bruce Chambers" <3t> wrote in message
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> Hobbes wrote:
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>
>>
>> Most will recommend against any registry cleaners.

>
>
> For good reason: They're nothing but snake oil that do absolutely nothing
> useful.
>
>
>> I use CCleaner ... it both gets rid of temp internet files, temp files,
>> and other selectable items in one fell swoop.
>> And has an option for removing "lost" registry entries.
>> I 've never had an issue.
>>

>
>
> CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as you
> step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it
> really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let the
> application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported
> "issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a
> brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed, and
> certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed
> to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of
> purportedly "suspicious" files, making it clearly a worthless product, in
> this regard. (Not that any registry cleaner can ever be anything but
> worthless, as they don't serve any useful purpose, to start with.)
>
> CCleaner's only real strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in
> its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard drive;
> as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse than any
> other snake oil product of the same type.
>
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>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
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> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
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> ~ Denis Diderot
>


True about any performance gain.
But if you uninstall a program... using something like CCleaner is a quick
way to remove reg entries of that program.
I've never seen hundreds of reg entries show up in it's report.
Too each his own ... Its faster than F3'ing thru the registry.

 
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Liebach
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      05-25-2008
Thank you for all the responses; I now see it is a stupid idea to use a
registry cleaner so I will not do it.

Thank you.


/Liebach


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> Liebach wrote:
>> Does anyone knows of a good Windows Vista registry cleaner? Where is
>> the best cleaner? And where to download?

>
> I use Crap Cleaner once in a while.
> It's free and have had no problems with it.
> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>
> I only use a registry cleaner because I often do searches in the registry
> and it keeps the search time down if you remove useless keys.
> If you have no need to do searches etc. then I wouldn't bother with a
> cleaner.
> Cleaning your registry won't make your machine suddenly better, and there
> is a chance
> it might remove something you didn't want it to.
>
> If you do decide to use one, check carefully what it wants to remove.
> .
>
>


 
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