Reminder changes made on device do not sync to desktop

When i edit a reminder or dismiss it on my device, it does not sync to
desktop!

The issue is that i get about 15 reminders a day on my device which i either
postpone the reminder time OR i dismiss it. When i sync, these changes are
not carried to the desktop. The desktop pops up all the reminders and then i
have to try and remember what changes i made to each of the reminder.
Sometimes I sync after 3 days in which case i end up with atleast 25
reminders!!! I posted this on TREO forums and heard that this is the way its
supposed to behave and there is nothing wrong! I was even ready to upgrade to
HTC touch pro with Windows 6.1 and was informed that even HTC OR any other
mobile device using the windows mobile platform does not sync reminder
changes (and dismisses) from device to desktop!

If this is the way its designed then my question is what is the logic behind
this VERY UN-USERFRIENDLY feature and is microsoft going to fix it?

Also want to point out that I only sync with one desktop. I never had this
problem when i was using DELL Axim x50v. When i synced my dell axim with my
desktop, i could see all the reminders in the pop up window on the desktop
dissappear. So this did work on the same platform on a different device.



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Windows Vista 64
Palm Treo700WX
Windows Mobile 5.0
SW Ver. TREO700WX-1.15-SPNT
<<Apps Installed>>
PhoneAlarm
eWallet
MemMaid
Skyfire

Todd: This was probably the best explanation i got! Now it makes perfect
sense. I have never used exchange sync so never came accross this scenario
since i sync with on PC and no one else uses my PC! I totally understand that
most of these devices sync through exchange OTA so this feature makes
perfect sense. And I am a big proponent of the word "different" that you used
rather than saying right or wrong!

Anyhow I did have one question regarding this sentence of yours.....

"Similarly, I don't want my wife or kids' dismissmal of a
eminder on the home PC to propagate to my mobile and silence a needed
alert- it might be something important I have to do!"

Did you just say this as a feature that would be good OR is this the way it
works now? The reason i ask is because right now any changes i make on the
desktop sync to my device - once the reminder is edited or dismissed on PC
it DOES propagate to my device on the next sync. Again my syncing is direct
PC to device over BT. Does that make a difference?

Thanks!


--
Windows Vista 64
Palm Treo700WX
SW Ver. TREO700WX-1.15-SPNT
<<Apps Installed>>
PhoneAlarm
eWallet
MemMaid
Skyfire


"Todd Allcock" wrote:

>
> "Triny" <> wrote in message
> news:E2DF0C90-61DB-43E7-A9C8-...
> > When i edit a reminder or dismiss it on my device, it does not sync to
> > desktop!
>
> Correct.
>
> > The issue is that i get about 15 reminders a day on my device which i
> > either
> > postpone the reminder time OR i dismiss it. When i sync, these changes are
> > not carried to the desktop. The desktop pops up all the reminders and then
> > i
> > have to try and remember what changes i made to each of the reminder.
> > Sometimes I sync after 3 days in which case i end up with atleast 25
> > reminders!!! I posted this on TREO forums and heard that this is the way
> > its
> > supposed to behave and there is nothing wrong! I was even ready to upgrade
> > to
> > HTC touch pro with Windows 6.1 and was informed that even HTC OR any other
> > mobile device using the windows mobile platform does not sync reminder
> > changes (and dismisses) from device to desktop!
>
> Correct, this is the current intended design, apparently.
>
> > If this is the way its designed then my question is what is the logic
> > behind
> > this VERY UN-USERFRIENDLY feature and is microsoft going to fix it?
>
> To be fair, if it's an intended design, there's nothing to "fix" since it's
> clearly not considered a bug.
>
> Now, as to why it's so "unfriendly" I can only venture a guess, but I
> suspect I'm not too far off the mark.
>
> Most of the features of a Windows Mobile device assumes you're, well,
> "mobile," i.e., not at your desktop PC. Most of the PIM features also seem
> to currently be designed with OTA (Exchange) sync in mind. While this
> behavior might not fit with your usage scenario, consider that you're not
> the only user of Windows Mobile products. ;-) Picture an office scenario,
> where you might be alerted when mobile that an important conference call
> will start in 30 minutes. You dismiss it, and prepare to place the call
> where you are. Meanwhile, back at your office, the same reminder is popping
> up on your office PC for your secretary, partner, officemate, etc. who needs
> to be reminded about the same call. If your dismissal silenced the
> notification on the PC as well, it would sync back immediately over
> Exchange, perhaps before anyone in the office noticed it. In my case, I
> like this behavior because my device syncs OTA with my home PC, which is
> used not only by me, but my family. A reminder that my son's martial arts
> class starts in an hour will be dismissed by me if I'm not home, but I want
> it to continue to nag my wife and/or son on the desktop in case they've
> forgotten. Similarly, I don't want my wife or kids' dismissmal of a
> reminder on the home PC to propagate to my mobile and silence a needed
> alert- it might be something important I have to do!
>
>
>
> > Also want to point out that I only sync with one desktop. I never had this
> > problem when i was using DELL Axim x50v. When i synced my dell axim with
> > my
> > desktop, i could see all the reminders in the pop up window on the desktop
> > dissappear. So this did work on the same platform on a different device.
>
> True, but those were the days before ubiquitous connectivity via cellular
> was common. The usage scenario in those days assumed the device was
> generally "off the net" and would only sync occasionally for updates.
> Different behaviors for different times, I guess. I'm not suggesting that
> the new behavior is "right" and the old was "wrong"- just that different
> usage scenarios are considered, and one is chosen to be the way it works.
> Either way, some people will be happy, and some won't. Short of having
> every feature and function on the device having a user configuration screen
> full of options most people wouldn't understand or care about, some
> decisions have to be made. Other device behaviors have changed to reflect
> modern usage scenarios as well, (again, usually centered around
> Enterprise/Exchange use.) Older devices didn't have their PIM data wiped
> clean if you deleted their only partnershi, for example. Today, they do.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi,
The responses to a reminder are NOT synchronized. This is by design and
Microsoft has not made any announcement about any changes.

I've seen this for years.


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"Triny" <> wrote in message
news:E2DF0C90-61DB-43E7-A9C8-...
> When i edit a reminder or dismiss it on my device, it does not sync to
> desktop!
>
> The issue is that i get about 15 reminders a day on my device which i
> either
> postpone the reminder time OR i dismiss it. When i sync, these changes are
> not carried to the desktop. The desktop pops up all the reminders and then
> i
> have to try and remember what changes i made to each of the reminder.
> Sometimes I sync after 3 days in which case i end up with atleast 25
> reminders!!! I posted this on TREO forums and heard that this is the way
> its
> supposed to behave and there is nothing wrong! I was even ready to upgrade
> to
> HTC touch pro with Windows 6.1 and was informed that even HTC OR any other
> mobile device using the windows mobile platform does not sync reminder
> changes (and dismisses) from device to desktop!
>
> If this is the way its designed then my question is what is the logic
> behind
> this VERY UN-USERFRIENDLY feature and is microsoft going to fix it?
>
> Also want to point out that I only sync with one desktop. I never had this
> problem when i was using DELL Axim x50v. When i synced my dell axim with
> my
> desktop, i could see all the reminders in the pop up window on the desktop
> dissappear. So this did work on the same platform on a different device.
>
>
>
> --
> Windows Vista 64
> Palm Treo700WX
> Windows Mobile 5.0
> SW Ver. TREO700WX-1.15-SPNT
> <<Apps Installed>>
> PhoneAlarm
> eWallet
> MemMaid
> Skyfire

Not sure if this is the right topic, but hopefully you clever people can help
me!
How do I get my WM6 device (an IPAQ 514) to Sync OTA with my exchange server
when I'm mobile?
Works fine when via Active Sync USB cable, but when I'm mobile Active Sync
won't sync, telling me my internet connection settings are incorrect.
They seem to work fine for browsing the net etc via GPRS...
Any help would be great...
Cheers
John

"Chris De Herrera" wrote:

> Hi,
> The responses to a reminder are NOT synchronized. This is by design and
> Microsoft has not made any announcement about any changes.
>
> I've seen this for years.
>
>
> --
> Chris De Herrera
> http://www.pocketpcfaq.com
> http://www.pocketpctalk.com
> http://www.tabletpctalk.com
> http://www.mobilitytalk.com
>
> "Triny" <> wrote in message
> news:E2DF0C90-61DB-43E7-A9C8-...
> > When i edit a reminder or dismiss it on my device, it does not sync to
> > desktop!
> >
> > The issue is that i get about 15 reminders a day on my device which i
> > either
> > postpone the reminder time OR i dismiss it. When i sync, these changes are
> > not carried to the desktop. The desktop pops up all the reminders and then
> > i
> > have to try and remember what changes i made to each of the reminder.
> > Sometimes I sync after 3 days in which case i end up with atleast 25
> > reminders!!! I posted this on TREO forums and heard that this is the way
> > its
> > supposed to behave and there is nothing wrong! I was even ready to upgrade
> > to
> > HTC touch pro with Windows 6.1 and was informed that even HTC OR any other
> > mobile device using the windows mobile platform does not sync reminder
> > changes (and dismisses) from device to desktop!
> >
> > If this is the way its designed then my question is what is the logic
> > behind
> > this VERY UN-USERFRIENDLY feature and is microsoft going to fix it?
> >
> > Also want to point out that I only sync with one desktop. I never had this
> > problem when i was using DELL Axim x50v. When i synced my dell axim with
> > my
> > desktop, i could see all the reminders in the pop up window on the desktop
> > dissappear. So this did work on the same platform on a different device.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Windows Vista 64
> > Palm Treo700WX
> > Windows Mobile 5.0
> > SW Ver. TREO700WX-1.15-SPNT
> > <<Apps Installed>>
> > PhoneAlarm
> > eWallet
> > MemMaid
> > Skyfire
>
>