renaming files problem..

Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside
are open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program..
XP used to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..

thanks............

Have a look at Task Manager to see if a related Process is running.

"maya" <> wrote in message news:fn84if$gkb$...
>
> Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside are
> open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program.. XP used
> to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..
>
> thanks............
>
>
>

Make sure you checked:

(1) Show hidden files and folders
(2) Hide protected OS files should be unchecked (temporarily)

This may still not work weirdly enough.

There is a remote chance that you've deleted files in that folder in the
heat of work but the information about those precious files is still in the
registry.

You will have to find out which ones.

"maya" <> wrote in message news:fn84if$gkb$...
>
> Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside are
> open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program.. XP used
> to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..
>
> thanks............
>
>
>

This will happen if you have a folder selected above the file or folder you
want to rename. Select the file or folder you want to rename, then rename
it. Right clicking and choosing rename does not select the folder or file.

"maya" <> wrote in message news:fn84if$gkb$...
>
> Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside are
> open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program.. XP used
> to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..
>
> thanks............
>
>
>

Michael, how in the world could she select the folder she wants to rename
which is already highlighted and perhaps even a convenient textbox provided
over the folder's name to rename it and the parent folder which you called
"the folder above it?"

This is all so bizarre that defies comprehension?

"Michael O" <> wrote in message
news:1F7BF94B-570E-4D6E-85FB-...
> This will happen if you have a folder selected above the file or folder
> you want to rename. Select the file or folder you want to rename, then
> rename it. Right clicking and choosing rename does not select the folder
> or file.
>
> "maya" <> wrote in message
> news:fn84if$gkb$...
>>
>> Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside
>> are open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program.. XP
>> used to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..
>>
>> thanks............
>>
>>
>>

maya <> wrote in news:fn84if$gkb$:

>
> Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside
> are open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program..
> XP used to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..
>
> thanks............

First thing is try a reboot.

Next, does it tell you what files are in use ? If not, you can try to
move all the files into a temp folder and the one(s) that won't move are
in use. Note the filenames of the 'in use' one(s).

You can d/l Sysinternals Process Explorer from MS and use that to find
what process is using the files. PE does not need to be installed, just
unzipped to a folder. PE is a task manager replacement that is far more
capable than MS task manager.

Start PE, goto 'Find' menu, select 'Find DLL or Handle'. A box will pop
up to enter a search into. Enter the file name that would not move, press
return or click 'Search'. The bottom of the box will fill with any
process(es) that have that file open.

After you find which process is using the file(s), we can look inot it
more.

This person went on a tangent.

The OP DOES NOT HAVE A FILE NAME. All she has is a folder name which she is
trying to rename.

When she tries to rename it Vista tells her that there is a lockup on the
folder because it is used by a program. Vista seldom bothers to tell people
who go on a tangent what the file name is.

This is what she's got. No more no less.

It is actually plenty. Yes, one way to test if Vista was serious is to
reboot the system. I kind of suspect she has already done it. Let's assume
she did and the issue remains unresolved. No file name, only folder. What
are you going to do?

You first make sure ALL files are displayed even if those files are secret
system files and I showed how to do it in my previous post.

She can look inside the folder and see if any files appeared. Let's assume
they did. Then she has to assign permissions to herself to rename them.
Strictly speaking she does not need to take cover off all the Vista files
for that. All she needs is to give herself elevated permission. She can
actually do it in Command Prompt "Run as administrator" and try to rename
the folder. I bet it won't work. She will have to then assign herself as a
user with full rights in Windows Explorer: Property>>Security Tab>>Edit>Add
User>>Full Right>>Apply.

She can (I believe) do her rename even if Vista has a file stashed in that
folder which it is using provided she has all elevated privileges.

Task manager does not appear to be any logical choice since the name of the
application (exec file) is unknown. Aside it may be a database file or a log
file. The name of the file in that folder most likely has nothing to do with
the process in the task Manager.

If after she made sure ALL files are displayed by Vista and still there is
no file in there then she has to look into the registry. It is an arduous
process but again the task manager may not be of any help if there is a
lockup on that nonexistent file somewhere up in the registry.


"DanS" <> wrote in message
news:Xns9A2EB3557D388thisnthatadelphianet@207.46.2 48.16...
> maya <> wrote in news:fn84if$gkb$:
>
>>
>> Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside
>> are open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program..
>> XP used to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..
>>
>> thanks............
>
> First thing is try a reboot.
>
> Next, does it tell you what files are in use ? If not, you can try to
> move all the files into a temp folder and the one(s) that won't move are
> in use. Note the filenames of the 'in use' one(s).
>
> You can d/l Sysinternals Process Explorer from MS and use that to find
> what process is using the files. PE does not need to be installed, just
> unzipped to a folder. PE is a task manager replacement that is far more
> capable than MS task manager.
>
> Start PE, goto 'Find' menu, select 'Find DLL or Handle'. A box will pop
> up to enter a search into. Enter the file name that would not move, press
> return or click 'Search'. The bottom of the box will fill with any
> process(es) that have that file open.
>
> After you find which process is using the file(s), we can look inot it
> more.
>
>
>

"AlexB" <> wrote in
news::

Dude....WTF ?! Can you not understand anything ?

> This person went on a tangent.

You don't even know what going out 'on a tangent' really means.

>
> The OP DOES NOT HAVE A FILE NAME. All she has is a folder name which
> she is trying to rename.
>
> When she tries to rename it Vista tells her that there is a lockup on
> the folder because it is used by a program. Vista seldom bothers to
> tell people who go on a tangent what the file name is.

No. Wrong again. The OP....

'Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside
are open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program..
XP used to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..'

The OP there says Vista says there are files in use in the folder, DUH!

I'm only going by what I was told in the OP. I'm not making up a bunch of
different scenarios of what they could have possibly meant. I am answering
the question as it is posed. Nothing more, nothing less.


> This is what she's got. No more no less.
>
> It is actually plenty. Yes, one way to test if Vista was serious is to
> reboot the system. I kind of suspect she has already done it. Let's
> assume she did and the issue remains unresolved. No file name, only
> folder. What are you going to do?

I don't know. I'm not going to sweat it until the OP posts back with a yea
or nay.

>
> You first make sure ALL files are displayed even if those files are
> secret system files and I showed how to do it in my previous post.

It wouldn't be a system folder they are trying to rename so, and I
seriously doubt they made any files read only or hidden manually.

> She can look inside the folder and see if any files appeared. Let's
> assume they did. Then she has to assign permissions to herself to
> rename them. Strictly speaking she does not need to take cover off all
> the Vista files for that. All she needs is to give herself elevated
> permission. She can actually do it in Command Prompt "Run as
> administrator" and try to rename the folder. I bet it won't work. She
> will have to then assign herself as a user with full rights in Windows
> Explorer: Property>>Security Tab>>Edit>Add User>>Full Right>>Apply.
>
> She can (I believe) do her rename even if Vista has a file stashed in
> that folder which it is using provided she has all elevated
> privileges.

You are unnecessarily overthinging this.....again.

> Task manager does not appear to be any logical choice since the name
> of the application (exec file) is unknown. Aside it may be a database
> file or a log file. The name of the file in that folder most likely
> has nothing to do with the process in the task Manager.

Another blatant example of your reading comprehension abilities. If you re-
read the post, you will see....well probably not. Let me refresh your tiny
fish-sized memory. I said DON'T use Task Manager, but instead use Process
Explorer, and then went on to explain how you can find the process, if you
know the name of the file, if you know the name of the file, if you know
the name of the file.

> If after she made sure ALL files are displayed by Vista and still
> there is no file in there then she has to look into the registry. It
> is an arduous process but again the task manager may not be of any
> help if there is a lockup on that nonexistent file somewhere up in the
> registry.

Well, if it's THAT important to rename the folder, and there are no files
in it and the locked folder can't be resolved and it's not a system folder,
instead of wasting what could be hours worth of researching for a fix and
manual registry searching here's what I would do......

I'd boot from Win98 boot floppy, start the free utility NTFS4DOS, CD to the
parent folder of the offending folder, do an RD and then a MKDIR with the
new name.

That would take 5 minutes, at most, since I already have a Win98 boot disk
with NTFS4DOS on it, and quicker than slaving the drive into another PC.

So now, please stop picking apart my posts if you don't *completely*
understand what is being said.

OK, I assumed that she does not see any files in the folder. It actually
not clear if she does see files or not. It may be either way. Even if she
does, it does not change anything at all. Let's say there are 20 files in
there. What does it give you?

Number one it is nice to check if there are hidden files and this may bring
the answer. Then and only then there is a remote chance that you find in TM
one of the processes that will match the file name. Number two even if it
won't give clarity, the Task Manager does not seem to be a good option for
the situation at all. A file used by a program? There might be 200-500 files
in all. They might be scattered over many directories. What are you going to
do then?

"DanS" <> wrote in message
news:Xns9A2EC272BBA92thisnthatadelphianet@207.46.2 48.16...
> "AlexB" <> wrote in
> news::
>
> Dude....WTF ?! Can you not understand anything ?
>
>> This person went on a tangent.
>
> You don't even know what going out 'on a tangent' really means.
>
>>
>> The OP DOES NOT HAVE A FILE NAME. All she has is a folder name which
>> she is trying to rename.
>>
>> When she tries to rename it Vista tells her that there is a lockup on
>> the folder because it is used by a program. Vista seldom bothers to
>> tell people who go on a tangent what the file name is.
>
> No. Wrong again. The OP....
>
> 'Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside
> are open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program..
> XP used to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..'
>
> The OP there says Vista says there are files in use in the folder, DUH!
>
> I'm only going by what I was told in the OP. I'm not making up a bunch of
> different scenarios of what they could have possibly meant. I am answering
> the question as it is posed. Nothing more, nothing less.
>
>
>> This is what she's got. No more no less.
>>
>> It is actually plenty. Yes, one way to test if Vista was serious is to
>> reboot the system. I kind of suspect she has already done it. Let's
>> assume she did and the issue remains unresolved. No file name, only
>> folder. What are you going to do?
>
> I don't know. I'm not going to sweat it until the OP posts back with a yea
> or nay.
>
>>
>> You first make sure ALL files are displayed even if those files are
>> secret system files and I showed how to do it in my previous post.
>
> It wouldn't be a system folder they are trying to rename so, and I
> seriously doubt they made any files read only or hidden manually.
>
>> She can look inside the folder and see if any files appeared. Let's
>> assume they did. Then she has to assign permissions to herself to
>> rename them. Strictly speaking she does not need to take cover off all
>> the Vista files for that. All she needs is to give herself elevated
>> permission. She can actually do it in Command Prompt "Run as
>> administrator" and try to rename the folder. I bet it won't work. She
>> will have to then assign herself as a user with full rights in Windows
>> Explorer: Property>>Security Tab>>Edit>Add User>>Full Right>>Apply.
>>
>> She can (I believe) do her rename even if Vista has a file stashed in
>> that folder which it is using provided she has all elevated
>> privileges.
>
> You are unnecessarily overthinging this.....again.
>
>> Task manager does not appear to be any logical choice since the name
>> of the application (exec file) is unknown. Aside it may be a database
>> file or a log file. The name of the file in that folder most likely
>> has nothing to do with the process in the task Manager.
>
> Another blatant example of your reading comprehension abilities. If you
> re-
> read the post, you will see....well probably not. Let me refresh your tiny
> fish-sized memory. I said DON'T use Task Manager, but instead use Process
> Explorer, and then went on to explain how you can find the process, if you
> know the name of the file, if you know the name of the file, if you know
> the name of the file.
>
>> If after she made sure ALL files are displayed by Vista and still
>> there is no file in there then she has to look into the registry. It
>> is an arduous process but again the task manager may not be of any
>> help if there is a lockup on that nonexistent file somewhere up in the
>> registry.
>
> Well, if it's THAT important to rename the folder, and there are no files
> in it and the locked folder can't be resolved and it's not a system
> folder,
> instead of wasting what could be hours worth of researching for a fix and
> manual registry searching here's what I would do......
>
> I'd boot from Win98 boot floppy, start the free utility NTFS4DOS, CD to
> the
> parent folder of the offending folder, do an RD and then a MKDIR with the
> new name.
>
> That would take 5 minutes, at most, since I already have a Win98 boot disk
> with NTFS4DOS on it, and quicker than slaving the drive into another PC.
>
> So now, please stop picking apart my posts if you don't *completely*
> understand what is being said.

"AlexB" <> wrote in
news::

> OK, I assumed that she does not see any files in the folder. It
> actually not clear if she does see files or not. It may be either way.
> Even if she does, it does not change anything at all. Let's say there
> are 20 files in there. What does it give you?
>
> Number one it is nice to check if there are hidden files and this may
> bring the answer. Then and only then there is a remote chance that you
> find in TM one of the processes that will match the file name. Number
> two even if it won't give clarity, the Task Manager does not seem to
> be a good option for the situation at all. A file used by a program?
> There might be 200-500 files in all. They might be scattered over many
> directories. What are you going to do then?

Hello ?!?!

How dense are you.

Are you human being, or some highly advanced scripted droid on a server
somewhere outside this galaxy communicating with Earth over that 300
gazillion dollar RF Telescope thing you were talking about ?

You're a pretty decent AI program though, but it just seems that a lot must
be lost in the translation from whatever your native alien language is.

(I've got way too much time on my hand's.... I just copied this thread to
file...a few people I know will get a real kick out of this !!!)

I really wish I could just ignore you, but it's really had when you make it
so easy.