Request: Microsoft to Create a "Service Pack" Specific Group

I disagree with all the responses I had about creating a Service Pack
specific NG.

I am not asking for a new Group for each SP for each OS. Jjust one
group that relates to Service Pack related problems.

I don't care if its, Microsoft.Public.Windows.Service-Packs

or

Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Service-Packs

Whichever would work but the "General" topic is just not specific
enough.

I only found this "General" by accident. I certainly would NOT have
come searching here for SP related issues had there not been so many
here already.

I formally request that Microsoft create a group that is on topic and
related to the Extremely problematic SP release for Vista.

I guess if this SP1 for Vista wasn't such a unique monster, I might
not have requested this and would have accepted "Genera" as good
enough.

Thanks for the consideration.
Respectfully,

Trev

This is not Microsoft. It's a peer-to-peer public newsgroup "staffed" by
volunteers.
Why do you find it difficult to start a thread for whatever problem(s)
you're having?

Many problems that appear to be SP related and are in fact Vista General
issues.

You can also choose any of the following newsgroups:

microsoft.public.windows.media center
microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
microsoft.public.windows.vista.administration_acco unts_passwords
microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
microsoft.public.windows.vista.games
microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_assessment
microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_vide o
microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_mainten ance
microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
microsoft.public.windows.vista.security

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"Trevor" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> I disagree with all the responses I had about creating a Service Pack
> specific NG.
>
> I am not asking for a new Group for each SP for each OS. Jjust one
> group that relates to Service Pack related problems.
>
> I don't care if its, Microsoft.Public.Windows.Service-Packs
>
> or
>
> Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Service-Packs
>
> Whichever would work but the "General" topic is just not specific
> enough.
>
> I only found this "General" by accident. I certainly would NOT have
> come searching here for SP related issues had there not been so many
> here already.
>
> I formally request that Microsoft create a group that is on topic and
> related to the Extremely problematic SP release for Vista.
>
> I guess if this SP1 for Vista wasn't such a unique monster, I might
> not have requested this and would have accepted "Genera" as good
> enough.
>
> Thanks for the consideration.
> Respectfully,
>
> Trev

OK then why is it unreasonable to find a category called "Updates"?
Leave the Service Pack out of the picture but the point is that MS is
notorius for SP's as well as Hot Fixes.
So let's create a group called Udates.
Why fight the obvious.....It really does make sense.


This is what <Bob> shared with us today ...

>
>This is not Microsoft. It's a peer-to-peer public newsgroup "staffed" by
>volunteers.
>Why do you find it difficult to start a thread for whatever problem(s)
>you're having?
>
>Many problems that appear to be SP related and are in fact Vista General
>issues.
>
>You can also choose any of the following newsgroups:
>
>microsoft.public.windows.media center
>microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.administration_acc ounts_passwords
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.games
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_assessmen t
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_set up
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_vid eo
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_shari ng
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_mainte nance
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
>microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
>
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>
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>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>"Trevor" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>>
>> I disagree with all the responses I had about creating a Service Pack
>> specific NG.
>>
>> I am not asking for a new Group for each SP for each OS. Jjust one
>> group that relates to Service Pack related problems.
>>
>> I don't care if its, Microsoft.Public.Windows.Service-Packs
>>
>> or
>>
>> Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Service-Packs
>>
>> Whichever would work but the "General" topic is just not specific
>> enough.
>>
>> I only found this "General" by accident. I certainly would NOT have
>> come searching here for SP related issues had there not been so many
>> here already.
>>
>> I formally request that Microsoft create a group that is on topic and
>> related to the Extremely problematic SP release for Vista.
>>
>> I guess if this SP1 for Vista wasn't such a unique monster, I might
>> not have requested this and would have accepted "Genera" as good
>> enough.
>>
>> Thanks for the consideration.
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Trev
Respectfully,

Trev

It is not unreasonable to find a category called Windows Update.
Steer the Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 newsreader you are using to
news:microsoft.public.windowsupdate
and post your reasonable question about Vista SP1.

"Trevor" <> wrote in message
news:...
> OK then why is it unreasonable to find a category called "Updates"?
> Leave the Service Pack out of the picture but the point is that MS is
> notorius for SP's as well as Hot Fixes.
> So let's create a group called Udates.
> Why fight the obvious.....It really does make sense.

If /you/ want to create a group /you/ can easily do so in Yahoo Groups. Good
luck finding participants.

Instead of wasting your time, start a thread with whatever problem you're
having...or not.
If you do, I am glad to offer any help I can

Don't expect me to respond to you again on this imaginary "issue".

"Trevor" <> wrote in message
news:...
> OK then why is it unreasonable to find a category called "Updates"?
> Leave the Service Pack out of the picture but the point is that MS is
> notorius for SP's as well as Hot Fixes.
> So let's create a group called Udates.
> Why fight the obvious.....It really does make sense.
>
>
> This is what <Bob> shared with us today ...
>
>>
>>This is not Microsoft. It's a peer-to-peer public newsgroup "staffed" by
>>volunteers.
>>Why do you find it difficult to start a thread for whatever problem(s)
>>you're having?
>>
>>Many problems that appear to be SP related and are in fact Vista General
>>issues.
>>
>>You can also choose any of the following newsgroups:
>>
>>microsoft.public.windows.media center
>>microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.administration_ac counts_passwords
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.games
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_assessme nt
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_device s
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setu p
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_vi deo
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharin g
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maint enance
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
>>microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
>>
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>>*Report back, please*
>>[When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying to
>>so
>>that others may learn and benefit from the issue]
>>
>>[How to ask a question]
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>"Trevor" <> wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>>
>>> I disagree with all the responses I had about creating a Service Pack
>>> specific NG.
>>>
>>> I am not asking for a new Group for each SP for each OS. Jjust one
>>> group that relates to Service Pack related problems.
>>>
>>> I don't care if its, Microsoft.Public.Windows.Service-Packs
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Service-Packs
>>>
>>> Whichever would work but the "General" topic is just not specific
>>> enough.
>>>
>>> I only found this "General" by accident. I certainly would NOT have
>>> come searching here for SP related issues had there not been so many
>>> here already.
>>>
>>> I formally request that Microsoft create a group that is on topic and
>>> related to the Extremely problematic SP release for Vista.
>>>
>>> I guess if this SP1 for Vista wasn't such a unique monster, I might
>>> not have requested this and would have accepted "Genera" as good
>>> enough.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the consideration.
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Trev
> Respectfully,
>
> Trev

It would be generally against the newsgroup group creation guidelines (as I
understand them) for this to happen. Thus I would think that this is very
much not possible. So, it's an interesting idea, but not really viable TMK.
=)

(I looked into these a while ago when potentially asking for one of my
group's newsgroups to be deleted. Unfortunately, the bar for change is
understandably high.)

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"Trevor" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> I disagree with all the responses I had about creating a Service Pack
> specific NG.
>
> I am not asking for a new Group for each SP for each OS. Jjust one
> group that relates to Service Pack related problems.
>
> I don't care if its, Microsoft.Public.Windows.Service-Packs
>
> or
>
> Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Service-Packs
>
> Whichever would work but the "General" topic is just not specific
> enough.
>
> I only found this "General" by accident. I certainly would NOT have
> come searching here for SP related issues had there not been so many
> here already.
>
> I formally request that Microsoft create a group that is on topic and
> related to the Extremely problematic SP release for Vista.
>
> I guess if this SP1 for Vista wasn't such a unique monster, I might
> not have requested this and would have accepted "Genera" as good
> enough.
>
> Thanks for the consideration.
> Respectfully,
>
> Trev

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:47:44 GMT, Trevor <>
wrote:

>
> I disagree with all the responses I had about creating a Service Pack
> specific NG.
>
> I am not asking for a new Group for each SP for each OS. Jjust one
> group that relates to Service Pack related problems.
>
> I don't care if its, Microsoft.Public.Windows.Service-Packs
>
> or
>
> Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Service-Packs
>
> Whichever would work but the "General" topic is just not specific
> enough.
>
> I only found this "General" by accident. I certainly would NOT have
> come searching here for SP related issues had there not been so many
> here already.
>
> I formally request that Microsoft create a group that is on topic and
> related to the Extremely problematic SP release for Vista.


You are welcome to disagree, but let me point out that you are not
formally requesting anything here.

This is not Microsoft you are addressing. This is a peer support
newsgroup, where we all try to help each other with Vista problems. If
you want to request something from Microsoft, you'll need to contact
them directly. Your request won't be heard here.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Trevor wrote:
> I disagree with all the responses I had about creating a Service Pack
> specific NG.
>

Sorry you didn't get the answer you liked, but that's the risk you run
when you ask the question of the wrong people. This is a peer support
group, and no one here is "Officially, at least) acting as a Microsoft
employee or representative.

Personally, though, I think it'd be just plain counter-productive, as
well as highly counter-intuitive to separate postings about Service
Packs separately from the products so affected. Why should users have
to hunt down a separate newsgroup to find information about dozens of
different products, when they can already find those newsgroups
dedicated to said products? It'd be an extra, and totally unnecessary,
step.


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"Bruce Chambers" <3t> wrote in message
news:...
> Trevor wrote:
>> I disagree with all the responses I had about creating a Service Pack
>> specific NG.
>
> Sorry you didn't get the answer you liked, but that's the risk you run

Testy Trevor found his Vista SP1 incompatibility with MUI question answered
in the WU group, Bruce - TaurArian had posted a link to a Microsoft blog.
news:

This is what <Michael Jennings> shared with us today ...

>"Bruce Chambers" <3t> wrote in message
>news:...
>> Trevor wrote:
>>> I disagree with all the responses I had about creating a Service Pack
>>> specific NG.
>>
>> Sorry you didn't get the answer you liked, but that's the risk you run
>
>Testy Trevor found his Vista SP1 incompatibility with MUI question answered
>in the WU group, Bruce - TaurArian had posted a link to a Microsoft blog.
>news:
>

Not "Testy" just trying to get information.
If you really want to help you would be more informative rather than
abrasive.

Respectfully,

Trev