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eganders
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      08-13-2008

Questions

1. I just found that I only have restore points back to the first wee
of August, but my computer was received in late June and I have bee
installing things right along. There is a checkbox that says to chec
it to get restore points older than 5 days, but that only displays a fe
more restore points
How do I get it to save restore points older than a few weeks

2. Is there a way to edit the registry or have it "repaired" fo
standard Microsoft features that does not require reverting to an olde
version and losing EVERYTHING you have done as far as installs

Background
Several things do not work as they should and the solution is alway
to go back to a restore point where they did. Three problems with that
1. I don't have a restore point where it worked (see above). 2.
have installed a lot of things that i don't want to reinstall just t
get a minor thing working again. (I would have to do that, correct?) 3
I did not know that a feature was not working until just now. Fo
example, I just found that the Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI
is not working in the windows sharing area. It recommends....yo
guessed it..... to revert back a restore point where it did work.
have no idea when that was (probably upon receipt of the computer).
am NOT going to go back there to get functionality of something I hav
not used yet with the loss of the functionality of everything I hav
installed. There are other irritating things that are also not workin
properly. For example, the Security Center service cannot be started.
It does not appear to keep the security components from working, but
can't "turn it on". I assume that there is a corruption of somethin
in the registery. It would sure be nice if there was a Microsof
utility that check standard Microsoft registry entries for integrity an
fixed those

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Ringmaster
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      08-13-2008
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:19:27 -0500, eganders <>
wrote:

>
>Questions:
>
>1. I just found that I only have restore points back to the first week
>of August, but my computer was received in late June and I have been
>installing things right along. There is a checkbox that says to check
>it to get restore points older than 5 days, but that only displays a few
>more restore points.
>How do I get it to save restore points older than a few weeks.


Restore points are deleted on a first created, first deleted basis. So
your oldest Restore Points are discarded to make room for newer ones.
How many you have depends on how much hard drive space is set aside
for the purpose. If you have a relatively small hard drive or one that
is nearly full, then Vista has little room to keep older Restore
Points and will start deleting them, oldest first. No, it doesn't tell
you either.

You can adjust the space set aside for Restore Points from a Command
Prompt typing in this command sequence Exactly including spaces:

vssadmin resize shadowstorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=XGB

Change the value of XGB to what you want, example: MaxSize=8GB

>2. Is there a way to edit the registry or have it "repaired" for
>standard Microsoft features that does not require reverting to an older
>version and losing EVERYTHING you have done as far as installs?


The Registry is nothing more than a Database of instructions Windows
uses to know how to do what it does. Yes it can be edited, repaired
generally means getting rid of or fixing entrees that are incorrect or
no long point to some file long since deleted. Neither of these things
in for the faint of heart and can if done incorrectly totally mess up
your install beyond repair requiring you to do a clean install where
you will lose everything.
>
>It would sure be nice if there was a Microsoft
>utility that check standard Microsoft registry entries for integrity and
>fixed those.


There is no such thing as "a standard registry entry". Everyone's
Registry is unique and varies greatly depending on your hardware,
software and how you configured your system. A Registry Cleaner MIGHT
be useful in finding obvious errors, but you can't simply push some
magic button and expect everything to be pristine. A typical Registry
has tens of thousands of lines. NOBODY and I mean nobody could know
what each does, yet there are a few clowns here that like to pretend
that.

If you system is as messed up as it sounds there is no magic cure and
you've probably reached the point of no return if you don't have old
enough Restore Points to roll back your system to a prior state.
 
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Paul Montgomery
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      08-13-2008
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:19:27 -0500, eganders <>
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>1. I just found that I only have restore points back to the first week
>of August, but my computer was received in late June and I have been
>installing things right along. There is a checkbox that says to check
>it to get restore points older than 5 days, but that only displays a few
>more restore points.
>How do I get it to save restore points older than a few weeks.


Increase the amount of disk space currently allocated to save restore
points. Right now your disk is using 15% of your drive for what you
see. You probably have more than you need if your computer is running
fine, but here's how to make your changes

http://www.petri.co.il/change_amount...e_in_vista.htm
 
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neil baker
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      08-13-2008

This thread appears to have a good knowledge of ms system restore.
My problem:
System restore no longer works. It appears to start (both set a point or
restore to a point) but fails with the error message 0x81000109.
All references to this error message fail to fix the problem.

Previously, I found a real quick fix that worked but I failed to write down
the information and need it once again.
It sees that I have two restore database files and System Restore cannot
differentiate between them and thus fails.
Do you know the file name of the database that is being duplicated so I can
delete one of them and have System Restore work once again?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Neil

"Paul Montgomery" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:19:27 -0500, eganders <>
> wrote:
>
>>1. I just found that I only have restore points back to the first week
>>of August, but my computer was received in late June and I have been
>>installing things right along. There is a checkbox that says to check
>>it to get restore points older than 5 days, but that only displays a few
>>more restore points.
>>How do I get it to save restore points older than a few weeks.

>
> Increase the amount of disk space currently allocated to save restore
> points. Right now your disk is using 15% of your drive for what you
> see. You probably have more than you need if your computer is running
> fine, but here's how to make your changes
>
> http://www.petri.co.il/change_amount...e_in_vista.htm


 
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Bill Yanaire
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      08-13-2008

"Ringmaster" <> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:19:27 -0500, eganders <>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Questions:
>>
>>1. I just found that I only have restore points back to the first week
>>of August, but my computer was received in late June and I have been
>>installing things right along. There is a checkbox that says to check
>>it to get restore points older than 5 days, but that only displays a few
>>more restore points.
>>How do I get it to save restore points older than a few weeks.

>
> Restore points are deleted on a first created, first deleted basis. So
> your oldest Restore Points are discarded to make room for newer ones.
> How many you have depends on how much hard drive space is set aside
> for the purpose. If you have a relatively small hard drive or one that
> is nearly full, then Vista has little room to keep older Restore
> Points and will start deleting them, oldest first. No, it doesn't tell
> you either.
>
> You can adjust the space set aside for Restore Points from a Command
> Prompt typing in this command sequence Exactly including spaces:
>
> vssadmin resize shadowstorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=XGB
>
> Change the value of XGB to what you want, example: MaxSize=8GB
>
>>2. Is there a way to edit the registry or have it "repaired" for
>>standard Microsoft features that does not require reverting to an older
>>version and losing EVERYTHING you have done as far as installs?

>
> The Registry is nothing more than a Database of instructions Windows
> uses to know how to do what it does. Yes it can be edited, repaired
> generally means getting rid of or fixing entrees that are incorrect or
> no long point to some file long since deleted. Neither of these things
> in for the faint of heart and can if done incorrectly totally mess up
> your install beyond repair requiring you to do a clean install where
> you will lose everything.
>>
>>It would sure be nice if there was a Microsoft
>>utility that check standard Microsoft registry entries for integrity and
>>fixed those.

>
> There is no such thing as "a standard registry entry". Everyone's
> Registry is unique and varies greatly depending on your hardware,
> software and how you configured your system. A Registry Cleaner MIGHT
> be useful in finding obvious errors, but you can't simply push some
> magic button and expect everything to be pristine. A typical Registry
> has tens of thousands of lines. NOBODY and I mean nobody could know
> what each does, yet there are a few clowns here that like to pretend
> that.


So why would you say that there are a few clowns in here that pretend to
know all about the Registry? Clowns are usually in the Circus performing
for the audience and most likely don't deal with the internals of the
registry. Get your head out of your ass and stop making a fool of yourself.
You are the vista general embarrassment.


>
> If you system is as messed up as it sounds there is no magic cure and
> you've probably reached the point of no return if you don't have old
> enough Restore Points to roll back your system to a prior state.



 
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Paul Montgomery
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      08-13-2008
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:05:59 -0400, "neil baker"
<neil.nospam.@neilbbaker.com> wrote:

>This thread appears to have a good knowledge of ms system restore.
>My problem:
>System restore no longer works. It appears to start (both set a point or
>restore to a point) but fails with the error message 0x81000109.
>All references to this error message fail to fix the problem.


Googling " 0x81000109" gets a lot of hits mostly referencing
posts/threads from other people with the same problem. One points to
a BIOS problem.

Check the first one in the following list before checking the others.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/587kff
 
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Ringmaster
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      08-13-2008
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:01:59 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <>
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>So why would you say that there are a few clowns in here that pretend to
>know all about the Registry?


Because that's what some dopes have repeatedly claimed when they were
wailing against Registry Cleaners. Damn it Yanaire, do you have to
insist on showing us how utterly stupid you are about everything
regardless of topic?

Clown defined:

1. A buffoon or jester.
2. A coarse, rude, vulgar person; ie a boor.
3. To behave like a idiot.

Of Scandinavian origin similar to the Icelandic "klunni", ie a clumsy
person.

Describes you and Frank perfectly.

You know I LOVE to expose you and Frank as the assholes you are. The
only question is why you two morons give me, Alias and the others that
constantly kick you two buffoons in your dumb ass so many
opportunities to prove what idiots you really are. So why do you?
 
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Bill Yanaire
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      08-13-2008

"Ringmaster" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:01:59 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <>
> wrote:
>
>>So why would you say that there are a few clowns in here that pretend to
>>know all about the Registry?

>
> Because that's what some dopes have repeatedly claimed when they were
> wailing against Registry Cleaners. Damn it Yanaire, do you have to
> insist on showing us how utterly stupid you are about everything
> regardless of topic?


I'm just ****ing with you. You are so stupid you fall for it every time.
>
> Clown defined:
>



1. Ringmaster
2. Adam Albright
3. Executioner
4. All the Above


> Of Scandinavian origin similar to the Icelandic "klunni", ie a clumsy
> person.
>

Describes YOU perfectly. Although clumsy is a big of an upgrade for you.
Mentally retarded is more your style.


>
> You know I LOVE to expose you and Frank as the assholes you are. The
> only question is why you two morons give me, Alias and the others that
> constantly kick you two buffoons in your dumb ass so many
> opportunities to prove what idiots you really are. So why do you?


Just to make you dance you dope. HA HA HA HA



 
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      08-13-2008
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:08:40 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <>
wrote:

>
>"Ringmaster" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:01:59 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>So why would you say that there are a few clowns in here that pretend to
>>>know all about the Registry?

>>
>> Because that's what some dopes have repeatedly claimed when they were
>> wailing against Registry Cleaners. Damn it Yanaire, do you have to
>> insist on showing us how utterly stupid you are about everything
>> regardless of topic?

>
>I'm just ****ing with you. You are so stupid you fall for it every time.


You confuse "fukking with you" with ****ed-up, which is what you and
Frank are.
>>
>> Clown defined:
>>

>
>
>1. Ringmaster
>2. Adam Albright
>3. Executioner
>4. All the Above
>
>
>> Of Scandinavian origin similar to the Icelandic "klunni", ie a clumsy
>> person.
>>

>Describes YOU perfectly. Although clumsy is a big of an upgrade for you.
>Mentally retarded is more your style.


>> You know I LOVE to expose you and Frank as the assholes you are. The
>> only question is why you two morons give me, Alias and the others that
>> constantly kick you two buffoons in your dumb ass so many
>> opportunities to prove what idiots you really are. So why do you?

>
>Just to make you dance you dope. HA HA HA HA


So you admit you act like a jackass on purpose. That's revealing.
Actually just another of your lies. You really are as stupid as you
seem. Anyone that worships Frank is as crazy as he is.

 
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Ken Blake, MVP
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      08-13-2008
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:19:27 -0500, eganders <>
wrote:

>
> Questions:
>
> 1. I just found that I only have restore points back to the first week
> of August, but my computer was received in late June and I have been
> installing things right along. There is a checkbox that says to check
> it to get restore points older than 5 days, but that only displays a few
> more restore points.
> How do I get it to save restore points older than a few weeks.



Restore points older than a week or two are seldom useful, and are
generally not a good idea to use. The problem is that if you restore
to them, you are likely to get the registry out of synch with other
files on your drive.

And you should *never* think of "Restore points as a solution to all
problems." Useful as a restore point can be, that's not even close to
correct. Think of a restore point as a quick and easy way to undo what
happened yesterday or a couple of days ago, and get you back to where
you were. That's what they're for and that's what they're good for.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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