Return to XP?

I am thinking about returning to XP Pro. I have a ton of software installed
on my old T30 IBM and would like to install it on my new Compaq but have
heard lots of horror stories about downward incompatability. I have all the
original install cds and licenses and haven't seen anything in Vista that I
thought was better.

I know that down the road nothing will run on XP and only on Vista or
whatever the marketeers release, but I would like to get another 3-4 years
out of my software investment that I was very happy with running on XP Pro.

My laptop was just getting old but I cannot find laptops with XP anymore.
Interestingly enough the sales guy at Frys told me that if Vista was a
problem, their techs would take it back and install XP. Of course thats not
true, (as I verified today).

Is this a common desire or am I the lone ranger in this?

TIA, GWB

I have read reports that say this, but I have no personal knowledge of
someone doing it.


"George W. Barrowcliff" wrote:

> I am thinking about returning to XP Pro. I have a ton of software installed
> on my old T30 IBM and would like to install it on my new Compaq but have
> heard lots of horror stories about downward incompatability. I have all the
> original install cds and licenses and haven't seen anything in Vista that I
> thought was better.
>
> I know that down the road nothing will run on XP and only on Vista or
> whatever the marketeers release, but I would like to get another 3-4 years
> out of my software investment that I was very happy with running on XP Pro.
>
> My laptop was just getting old but I cannot find laptops with XP anymore.
> Interestingly enough the sales guy at Frys told me that if Vista was a
> problem, their techs would take it back and install XP. Of course thats not
> true, (as I verified today).
>
> Is this a common desire or am I the lone ranger in this?
>
> TIA, GWB
>
>
>

Have you tried to run the upgrade advisor yet???

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...deadvisor.mspx

There has been a lot written about compatibility but I truly believe it is a
lot of FUD. Let's be real who's going to voice a lot of noise?? People with
problems. If it is running fine will people be praising it??? Probably
not.

Do some research and give Vista a fair shake.

T
"George W. Barrowcliff" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I am thinking about returning to XP Pro. I have a ton of software
>installed
> on my old T30 IBM and would like to install it on my new Compaq but have
> heard lots of horror stories about downward incompatability. I have all
> the
> original install cds and licenses and haven't seen anything in Vista that
> I
> thought was better.
>
> I know that down the road nothing will run on XP and only on Vista or
> whatever the marketeers release, but I would like to get another 3-4 years
> out of my software investment that I was very happy with running on XP
> Pro.
>
> My laptop was just getting old but I cannot find laptops with XP anymore.
> Interestingly enough the sales guy at Frys told me that if Vista was a
> problem, their techs would take it back and install XP. Of course thats
> not
> true, (as I verified today).
>
> Is this a common desire or am I the lone ranger in this?
>
> TIA, GWB
>
>

Similar as when Windows XP was released years ago, many want to stay
with the familiar.

Most older programs work without any need for changes.
Some need updates or different settings while others will work in
compatibility Mode.

Check with the specific program manufacturer about Windows Vista
compatibility.
Also ask other users of your essential programs.
If they are not supported, it may be necessary to go back to Windows
XP.

If you were misinformed by the sales rep, take the computer back for a
refund.
Be sure the manager knows you are unhappy with the bad information and
will purchase elsewhere.

Dell and others sell computers with Windows XP:
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/s...dhs&redirect=1

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"George W. Barrowcliff" <> wrote in
message news:...
>I am thinking about returning to XP Pro. I have a ton of software
>installed
> on my old T30 IBM and would like to install it on my new Compaq but
> have
> heard lots of horror stories about downward incompatability. I have
> all the
> original install cds and licenses and haven't seen anything in Vista
> that I
> thought was better.
>
> I know that down the road nothing will run on XP and only on Vista
> or
> whatever the marketeers release, but I would like to get another 3-4
> years
> out of my software investment that I was very happy with running on
> XP Pro.
>
> My laptop was just getting old but I cannot find laptops with XP
> anymore.
> Interestingly enough the sales guy at Frys told me that if Vista was
> a
> problem, their techs would take it back and install XP. Of course
> thats not
> true, (as I verified today).
>
> Is this a common desire or am I the lone ranger in this?
>
> TIA, GWB
>
>

"George W. Barrowcliff" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I am thinking about returning to XP Pro. I have a ton of software
>installed
> on my old T30 IBM and would like to install it on my new Compaq but have
> heard lots of horror stories about downward incompatability. I have all
> the
> original install cds and licenses and haven't seen anything in Vista that
> I
> thought was better.
>
> I know that down the road nothing will run on XP and only on Vista or
> whatever the marketeers release, but I would like to get another 3-4 years
> out of my software investment that I was very happy with running on XP
> Pro.
>
> My laptop was just getting old but I cannot find laptops with XP anymore.
> Interestingly enough the sales guy at Frys told me that if Vista was a
> problem, their techs would take it back and install XP. Of course thats
> not
> true, (as I verified today).
>
> Is this a common desire or am I the lone ranger in this?


You can get a Thinkpad T61 to replace your T30, with XP. I am planning on
replacing my X31 with a X61 or T61p, with XP rather than Vista.

ss.

"George W. Barrowcliff" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I am thinking about returning to XP Pro. I have a ton of software installed
> on my old T30 IBM and would like to install it on my new Compaq but have
> heard lots of horror stories about downward incompatability. I have all the
> original install cds and licenses and haven't seen anything in Vista that I
> thought was better.
>
> I know that down the road nothing will run on XP and only on Vista or
> whatever the marketeers release, but I would like to get another 3-4 years
> out of my software investment that I was very happy with running on XP Pro.
>
> My laptop was just getting old but I cannot find laptops with XP anymore.
> Interestingly enough the sales guy at Frys told me that if Vista was a
> problem, their techs would take it back and install XP. Of course thats not
> true, (as I verified today).
>
> Is this a common desire or am I the lone ranger in this?
>
> TIA, GWB

Many HP & Compaq notebooks can still come furnished with XP.
Yours might be one of them. Click on "See all notebook products" here:
http://www.hp.com/sbso/busproducts_notebooks.html

If it isn't, you could see what doesn't work with Vista. If too much doesn't,
you can buy an XP CD from NewEgg or some other supplier. That would
get you rights to run either, but you may have a driver hunt nightmare.
If it your laptop is listed as also XP, and a hassle with HP suits you better
than spending money, try getting OEM XP recovery DVDs from support.
Since you're in the United States, call 1-800-952-7689 for backup software;
your notebook's Help and Support Center may also have that number.

Run the Vista upgrade advisor on your old laptop to determine which of your
programs has no chance on Vista. As a check, go to author web sites to find
out about patches or upgrades that may be available. Many older programs run
quite happily on Vista. Some of the 'horror' stories you see here are put
out by MS haters who have not even run Vista for themselves, preferring
instead to quote old news and general FUD.

There is a lot more to Vista than a black task bar.


"George W. Barrowcliff" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I am thinking about returning to XP Pro. I have a ton of software
>installed
> on my old T30 IBM and would like to install it on my new Compaq but have
> heard lots of horror stories about downward incompatability. I have all
> the
> original install cds and licenses and haven't seen anything in Vista that
> I
> thought was better.
>
> I know that down the road nothing will run on XP and only on Vista or
> whatever the marketeers release, but I would like to get another 3-4 years
> out of my software investment that I was very happy with running on XP
> Pro.
>
> My laptop was just getting old but I cannot find laptops with XP anymore.
> Interestingly enough the sales guy at Frys told me that if Vista was a
> problem, their techs would take it back and install XP. Of course thats
> not
> true, (as I verified today).
>
> Is this a common desire or am I the lone ranger in this?
>
> TIA, GWB
>
>

Before you do anything, except take back the computer and insist that since
you were lied to that they refund your purchase price, make sure that there
are drivers for your new Compaq. That may be the reason for their not
honouring the agreement. Always get things like that in writing in the
future or at the least confirm it with the store owner/manager.

"George W. Barrowcliff" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I am thinking about returning to XP Pro. I have a ton of software
>installed
> on my old T30 IBM and would like to install it on my new Compaq but have
> heard lots of horror stories about downward incompatability. I have all
> the
> original install cds and licenses and haven't seen anything in Vista that
> I
> thought was better.
>
> I know that down the road nothing will run on XP and only on Vista or
> whatever the marketeers release, but I would like to get another 3-4 years
> out of my software investment that I was very happy with running on XP
> Pro.
>
> My laptop was just getting old but I cannot find laptops with XP anymore.
> Interestingly enough the sales guy at Frys told me that if Vista was a
> problem, their techs would take it back and install XP. Of course thats
> not
> true, (as I verified today).
>
> Is this a common desire or am I the lone ranger in this?
>
> TIA, GWB
>
>

You are mistaken.. lots of people crave change and always want the latest
and greatest. As a supporter of change, and advancements and improvements, I
cannot wait for a new update, I love changes so much that I keep trying new
things in technology just so I can keep learning.

HOWEVER...

VISTA STINKS BIG TIME AND IS A HUGE LEAP BACKWARDS!

Stop the propaganda, it shows that is propaganda what you are doing and you
are not fooling anyone.
Vista is not the same as when XP came out. We opened our arms and embraced
XP, for Vista we throw it in the garbage where it belongs!



"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:eM%...
> Similar as when Windows XP was released years ago, many want to stay with
> the familiar.
>
> Most older programs work without any need for changes.
> Some need updates or different settings while others will work in
> compatibility Mode.
>
> Check with the specific program manufacturer about Windows Vista
> compatibility.
> Also ask other users of your essential programs.
> If they are not supported, it may be necessary to go back to Windows XP.
>
> If you were misinformed by the sales rep, take the computer back for a
> refund.
> Be sure the manager knows you are unhappy with the bad information and
> will purchase elsewhere.
>
> Dell and others sell computers with Windows XP:
> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/s...dhs&redirect=1
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "George W. Barrowcliff" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I am thinking about returning to XP Pro. I have a ton of software
>>installed
>> on my old T30 IBM and would like to install it on my new Compaq but have
>> heard lots of horror stories about downward incompatability. I have all
>> the
>> original install cds and licenses and haven't seen anything in Vista that
>> I
>> thought was better.
>>
>> I know that down the road nothing will run on XP and only on Vista or
>> whatever the marketeers release, but I would like to get another 3-4
>> years
>> out of my software investment that I was very happy with running on XP
>> Pro.
>>
>> My laptop was just getting old but I cannot find laptops with XP anymore.
>> Interestingly enough the sales guy at Frys told me that if Vista was a
>> problem, their techs would take it back and install XP. Of course thats
>> not
>> true, (as I verified today).
>>
>> Is this a common desire or am I the lone ranger in this?
>>
>> TIA, GWB
>>
>>
>

The advisor is crap most of the time.. gives too many erroneous feedback and
is clearly wrong and misleading in many things. I would say that advisor is
a nice joke to run and start laughing at the stupid things it says.

The only way to be sure is to get someone intelligent to see the apps, and
see if they will work. That intelligent person however will tell you to get
XP and not vista.



"Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Run the Vista upgrade advisor on your old laptop to determine which of
> your programs has no chance on Vista. As a check, go to author web sites
> to find out about patches or upgrades that may be available. Many older
> programs run quite happily on Vista. Some of the 'horror' stories you see
> here are put out by MS haters who have not even run Vista for themselves,
> preferring instead to quote old news and general FUD.
>
> There is a lot more to Vista than a black task bar.
>
>
> "George W. Barrowcliff" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I am thinking about returning to XP Pro. I have a ton of software
>>installed
>> on my old T30 IBM and would like to install it on my new Compaq but have
>> heard lots of horror stories about downward incompatability. I have all
>> the
>> original install cds and licenses and haven't seen anything in Vista that
>> I
>> thought was better.
>>
>> I know that down the road nothing will run on XP and only on Vista or
>> whatever the marketeers release, but I would like to get another 3-4
>> years
>> out of my software investment that I was very happy with running on XP
>> Pro.
>>
>> My laptop was just getting old but I cannot find laptops with XP anymore.
>> Interestingly enough the sales guy at Frys told me that if Vista was a
>> problem, their techs would take it back and install XP. Of course thats
>> not
>> true, (as I verified today).
>>
>> Is this a common desire or am I the lone ranger in this?
>>
>> TIA, GWB
>>
>>
>