Running a 2nd OS with Vista Home edition (Windows 98?)

I've lost a magazine I had that talked of having dual OS's. I'd like
to put Windows 98 on my Toshiba laptop if it can be done. Following
various problems I have put Vista and all the Updates on 3 times now,
so I don't want any risks. I read a little bit about Virtual PC and
wondered if there were other options. Also, what happens about
drivers? Will, in 98 mode, the laptop use the Vista drivers?

All advice/ suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance.

Windows 98 is obsolete and will not install or
run on a new laptop. Contact Toshiba support
Windows Vista troubleshooting assistance.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

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"kplumm" <> wrote in message news:ac2dae33-76fb-4873-ad50-...
I've lost a magazine I had that talked of having dual OS's. I'd like
to put Windows 98 on my Toshiba laptop if it can be done. Following
various problems I have put Vista and all the Updates on 3 times now,
so I don't want any risks. I read a little bit about Virtual PC and
wondered if there were other options. Also, what happens about
drivers? Will, in 98 mode, the laptop use the Vista drivers?

All advice/ suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Windows 98 is obsolete and will not install or
> run on a new laptop. Contact Toshiba support
> Windows Vista troubleshooting assistance.
>

How does Windows 98 know that the laptop is new?


> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience -
> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "kplumm" <> wrote in message
> news:ac2dae33-76fb-4873-ad50-...
> I've lost a magazine I had that talked of having dual OS's. I'd like
> to put Windows 98 on my Toshiba laptop if it can be done. Following
> various problems I have put Vista and all the Updates on 3 times now,
> so I don't want any risks. I read a little bit about Virtual PC and
> wondered if there were other options. Also, what happens about
> drivers? Will, in 98 mode, the laptop use the Vista drivers?
>
> All advice/ suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance.
>

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Windows 98 will not install or
> run on a new laptop.

And your evidence for that is?

On Fri, 9 May 2008 19:29:00 +0100, "Gordon"
<> wrote:

>"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>news:...
>> Windows 98 will not install or
>> run on a new laptop.
>
>And your evidence for that is?

I think he's safe on that one. Especially if it's a Vista laptop.
Many manufacturers don't provide XP drivers, so it's unlikely that the
Mfr will supply Win98 drivers.

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>>Windows 98 is obsolete and will not install or
>>run on a new laptop. Contact Toshiba support
>>Windows Vista troubleshooting assistance.
>>
>
>
> How does Windows 98 know that the laptop is new?
>
>
>
>>--
>>Carey Frisch
>>Microsoft MVP
>>Windows Desktop Experience -
>>Windows Vista Enthusiast
>>
>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>"kplumm" <> wrote in message
>>news:ac2dae33-76fb-4873-ad50-...
>>I've lost a magazine I had that talked of having dual OS's. I'd like
>>to put Windows 98 on my Toshiba laptop if it can be done. Following
>>various problems I have put Vista and all the Updates on 3 times now,
>>so I don't want any risks. I read a little bit about Virtual PC and
>>wondered if there were other options. Also, what happens about
>>drivers? Will, in 98 mode, the laptop use the Vista drivers?
>>
>>All advice/ suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance.
>>
>
>
>
Well his only problem could be if the laptop uses sata...then he could
have a real problem finding, if they even exist, the proper Win98 HDD
drivers.
Frank

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Windows 98 is obsolete and will not install or
> run on a new laptop. Contact Toshiba support
> Windows Vista troubleshooting assistance.

If he uses a VM like VirtualBox, it presents old NIC and HD setting, it just
might work in a VM. Most VMs abstract the real hardware from the guess OS
in an emulation layer. Can't say I have tried it but it might work. That
is, Windows-98 does not need SATA drivers, just enough smarts to use the
emulation BIOS aught to be enough. For devices like CD-ROM, might want the
VM to provide them as SCSI to Win98.


> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience -
> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "kplumm" <> wrote in message
> news:ac2dae33-76fb-4873-ad50-...
> I've lost a magazine I had that talked of having dual OS's. I'd like
> to put Windows 98 on my Toshiba laptop if it can be done. Following
> various problems I have put Vista and all the Updates on 3 times now,
> so I don't want any risks. I read a little bit about Virtual PC and
> wondered if there were other options. Also, what happens about
> drivers? Will, in 98 mode, the laptop use the Vista drivers?
>
> All advice/ suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance.
>

"Frank" <> wrote in message
news:48249e29$0$30514$...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>
>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>
>>>Windows 98 is obsolete and will not install or
>>>run on a new laptop. Contact Toshiba support
>>>Windows Vista troubleshooting assistance.
>>>
>>
>>
>> How does Windows 98 know that the laptop is new?
>>
>>
>>
>>>--
>>>Carey Frisch
>>>Microsoft MVP
>>>Windows Desktop Experience -
>>>Windows Vista Enthusiast
>>>
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>"kplumm" <> wrote in message
>>>news:ac2dae33-76fb-4873-ad50-...
>>>I've lost a magazine I had that talked of having dual OS's. I'd like
>>>to put Windows 98 on my Toshiba laptop if it can be done. Following
>>>various problems I have put Vista and all the Updates on 3 times now,
>>>so I don't want any risks. I read a little bit about Virtual PC and
>>>wondered if there were other options. Also, what happens about
>>>drivers? Will, in 98 mode, the laptop use the Vista drivers?
>>>
>>>All advice/ suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> Well his only problem could be if the laptop uses sata...then he could
> have a real problem finding, if they even exist, the proper Win98 HDD
> drivers.
> Frank

Frank, you are truly one stupid know nothing twit.

In a VM, it does not present to the guest the raw hardware. It presents an
emulated device.

You would not need SATA drivers if you say presented a ATA or SCSI interface
in the VM.

Go back to your sniping. It is what you do best.

Canuck57 wrote:

> "Frank" <> wrote in message
> news:48249e29$0$30514$...
>
>>Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>>news:...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Windows 98 is obsolete and will not install or
>>>>run on a new laptop. Contact Toshiba support
>>>>Windows Vista troubleshooting assistance.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>How does Windows 98 know that the laptop is new?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Carey Frisch
>>>>Microsoft MVP
>>>>Windows Desktop Experience -
>>>>Windows Vista Enthusiast
>>>>
>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>"kplumm" <> wrote in message
>>>>news:ac2dae33-76fb-4873-ad50-...
>>>>I've lost a magazine I had that talked of having dual OS's. I'd like
>>>>to put Windows 98 on my Toshiba laptop if it can be done. Following
>>>>various problems I have put Vista and all the Updates on 3 times now,
>>>>so I don't want any risks. I read a little bit about Virtual PC and
>>>>wondered if there were other options. Also, what happens about
>>>>drivers? Will, in 98 mode, the laptop use the Vista drivers?
>>>>
>>>>All advice/ suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Well his only problem could be if the laptop uses sata...then he could
>>have a real problem finding, if they even exist, the proper Win98 HDD
>>drivers.
>>Frank
>
>
> Frank, you are truly one stupid know nothing twit.
>
> In a VM, it does not present to the guest the raw hardware. It presents an
> emulated device.
>
> You would not need SATA drivers if you say presented a ATA or SCSI interface
> in the VM.
>
> Go back to your sniping. It is what you do best.
>
>
You're the idiot. The OP is looking to dual boot. If Vista crashes on
him having VM won't make a damn bit of difference.
I know what I'm talking about and from reading your fukkin lying
bullshit linux crap you don't have a GD clue.
Get lost canadian idiot bacon!...LOL!
Frank

"Nonny" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Fri, 9 May 2008 19:29:00 +0100, "Gordon"
> <> wrote:
>
>>"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>news:...
>>> Windows 98 will not install or
>>> run on a new laptop.
>>
>>And your evidence for that is?
>
> I think he's safe on that one. Especially if it's a Vista laptop.
> Many manufacturers don't provide XP drivers, so it's unlikely that the
> Mfr will supply Win98 drivers.

You only need to make sure you can get drivers for the emulator devices in
the VM.

2nd, I have yet to see a mobo I couldn't get XP drivers for. That is, show
me a vendor that produces a Vista only mobo or a Vista only video card? How
about a Vista only hard drive? Is there a Vista only chipset from Via, AMD
or Intel I haven't heard of?

The real truth here is a PC vendor doesn't want to support it. That is
quite a bit different than not being able to get drivers. This is a FUD
line to Heil Vista crowd. If it runs Vista, it will run XP at this point in
time. And it is almost certainly to run XP much faster and be compatible
with older devises Vista no longer supports.

Another point, Dell, HP and others are not going to be so quick to produce a
Vista only PC any time soon. Most businesses only support XP with no near
term plans to expand into Vista. In fact, most businesses I know are
seriously considering skipping Vista like WinMe. Vista is a turd and they
know it.