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nmorson@googlemail.com
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      02-09-2008
Just installed a SATA Samsung S203 DVD RW which causes VIsta to freeze
within about 60seconds! Have tried updating the motherboard, and
graphics drivers but no luck. I did manage to get it to work just once
when I disabled Magic ISO virtual CD device driver, at which point the
message 'installing device drivers' appeared on reboot and the drive
worked. But then had to do a rollback for various reasons and even
uninstalling my virtual CD device driver completely does not solve the
problem anymore.

This also happened with an LG DVD SATA burner so I'm thinking there's
nothing wrong with the drive, and the system has been working fine for
almost a year. Any ideas before I do a reinstall of the OS? I would
really like to know how to solve this issue before reformatting
 
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Mark L. Ferguson
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      02-09-2008
You might try disabling write caching. Vista may be too fast for your drive.
start/run, type:
devmgmt.msc
doubleclick the disk device, "Policies" tab, see checkbox.

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> Just installed a SATA Samsung S203 DVD RW which causes VIsta to freeze
> within about 60seconds! Have tried updating the motherboard, and
> graphics drivers but no luck. I did manage to get it to work just once
> when I disabled Magic ISO virtual CD device driver, at which point the
> message 'installing device drivers' appeared on reboot and the drive
> worked. But then had to do a rollback for various reasons and even
> uninstalling my virtual CD device driver completely does not solve the
> problem anymore.
>
> This also happened with an LG DVD SATA burner so I'm thinking there's
> nothing wrong with the drive, and the system has been working fine for
> almost a year. Any ideas before I do a reinstall of the OS? I would
> really like to know how to solve this issue before reformatting


 
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gerryf
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      02-09-2008
What kind of motherboard? In addition to the chipset drivers, are you
certain you installed the sata drivers for that motherboard?

Is there anything else (a harddrive) connected to the sata controllers? And
they work?

I know it seems obvious, but without a little more info its hard to
determine what you are experiencing




<> wrote in message
news:322018d9-a673-4e90-9d02-...
> Just installed a SATA Samsung S203 DVD RW which causes VIsta to freeze
> within about 60seconds! Have tried updating the motherboard, and
> graphics drivers but no luck. I did manage to get it to work just once
> when I disabled Magic ISO virtual CD device driver, at which point the
> message 'installing device drivers' appeared on reboot and the drive
> worked. But then had to do a rollback for various reasons and even
> uninstalling my virtual CD device driver completely does not solve the
> problem anymore.
>
> This also happened with an LG DVD SATA burner so I'm thinking there's
> nothing wrong with the drive, and the system has been working fine for
> almost a year. Any ideas before I do a reinstall of the OS? I would
> really like to know how to solve this issue before reformatting


 
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nmorson@googlemail.com
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      02-09-2008
On Feb 9, 4:33*pm, "gerryf" <gerry...@comcast.net> wrote:
> What kind of motherboard? In addition to the chipset drivers, are you
> certain you installed the sata drivers for that motherboard?
>
> Is there anything else (a harddrive) connected to the sata controllers? And
> they work?
>
> I know it seems obvious, but without a little more info its hard to
> determine what you are experiencing
>
> <nmor...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:322018d9-a673-4e90-9d02-...
>
>
>
> > Just installed a SATA Samsung S203 DVD RW which causes VIsta to freeze
> > within about 60seconds! Have tried updating the motherboard, and
> > graphics drivers but no luck. I did manage to get it to work just once
> > when I disabled Magic ISO virtual CD device driver, at which point the
> > message 'installing device drivers' appeared on reboot and the drive
> > worked. But then had to do a rollback for various reasons and even
> > uninstalling my virtual CD device driver completely does not solve the
> > problem anymore.

>
> > This also happened with an LG DVD SATA burner so I'm thinking there's
> > nothing wrong with the drive, and the system has been working fine for
> > almost a year. Any ideas before I do a reinstall of the OS? I would
> > really like to know how to solve this issue before reformatting- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks for the ideas - will try the first. In the meantime it's an
Asus M2N SLI Deluxe. Has RAID array (2x maxtor drives) on SATA 5 and
6, Samsung Spinpoint 250Gb on Sata 1. Have tried the DVD on Sata 2-4
but no luck. OCZ memory. Everything running at stock speeds, no
overclocking!
 
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gerryf
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      02-09-2008
As near as I can tell, this motherboard has some difficulty seeing optical
sata drives.

First, the jmicron controller (I think it is port 1) cannot see optical
drives at all--I don't think you are using that one, so we will dismiss
that.

Another fairly common issue is out of date bios--what bios are you using?

Another common issue is that old Intel Storage Manage drivers are the
culprit. It seems updating these to the most current version solves a lot of
the issues. Don't get the ones off the Asus site

Try the Intel site

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Prod...ProductID=2101


 
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nmorson@googlemail.com
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      02-09-2008
On Feb 9, 6:10*pm, "gerryf" <gerry...@comcast.net> wrote:
> As near as I can tell, this motherboard has some difficulty seeing optical
> sata drives.
>
> First, the jmicron controller (I think it is port 1) cannot see optical
> drives at all--I don't think you are using that one, so we will dismiss
> that.
>
> Another fairly common issue is out of date bios--what bios are you using?
>
> Another common issue is that old *Intel Storage Manage drivers are the
> culprit. It seems updating these to the most current version solves a lot of
> the issues. Don't get the ones off the Asus site
>
> Try the Intel site
>
> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Prod...ProductID=2101


Interesting comment about the bios. I'm using the original bios, not
sure which version and I've had the motherboard about 6months.
Generally I don't like updating bios's unless absolutely necessary.
The bios doesn't seem to be an issue as it will recognise the drive
and can even run an install DVD of Vista from it.

Disabling writing caching as suggested earlier didn't help I'm afraid
(although the drive did appear momentarily in My Computer). The
JMicron controller has always been disabled (I have no intention of
using it). And I should have mentioned this is on an AMD platform and
I have the latest drivers for the 570 chipset and graphics card from
Nvidia. One interesting thing, Vlite which I was going to use to build
a new Vista install with up to date drivers etc. won't work! I get an
error message saying the WIM filter is not installed, and upon
installing it still get reports of Mounting problems. Since I
originally had this device running when MagicISO virtual CD drive was
disabled I wondered if this was the problem, but have tried
reinstalling/uninstalling this application, various system rollbacks
etc. and still no good. Also Windows SFC reports that some files are
corrupt and it cannot fix them so next idea is to try a scandisk.
 
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gerryf
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      02-09-2008
what about the intel matrix drive?

That said, if you have errors are being reported by sfc, that is farm more
likely than the matrix drivers or the bios


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> On Feb 9, 6:10 pm, "gerryf" <gerry...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> As near as I can tell, this motherboard has some difficulty seeing
>> optical
>> sata drives.
>>
>> First, the jmicron controller (I think it is port 1) cannot see optical
>> drives at all--I don't think you are using that one, so we will dismiss
>> that.
>>
>> Another fairly common issue is out of date bios--what bios are you using?
>>
>> Another common issue is that old Intel Storage Manage drivers are the
>> culprit. It seems updating these to the most current version solves a lot
>> of
>> the issues. Don't get the ones off the Asus site
>>
>> Try the Intel site
>>
>> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Prod...ProductID=2101

>
> Interesting comment about the bios. I'm using the original bios, not
> sure which version and I've had the motherboard about 6months.
> Generally I don't like updating bios's unless absolutely necessary.
> The bios doesn't seem to be an issue as it will recognise the drive
> and can even run an install DVD of Vista from it.
>
> Disabling writing caching as suggested earlier didn't help I'm afraid
> (although the drive did appear momentarily in My Computer). The
> JMicron controller has always been disabled (I have no intention of
> using it). And I should have mentioned this is on an AMD platform and
> I have the latest drivers for the 570 chipset and graphics card from
> Nvidia. One interesting thing, Vlite which I was going to use to build
> a new Vista install with up to date drivers etc. won't work! I get an
> error message saying the WIM filter is not installed, and upon
> installing it still get reports of Mounting problems. Since I
> originally had this device running when MagicISO virtual CD drive was
> disabled I wondered if this was the problem, but have tried
> reinstalling/uninstalling this application, various system rollbacks
> etc. and still no good. Also Windows SFC reports that some files are
> corrupt and it cannot fix them so next idea is to try a scandisk.


 
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      02-09-2008
On Feb 9, 8:56*pm, "gerryf" <gerry...@comcast.net> wrote:
> what about the intel matrix drive?
>
> That said, if you have errors are being reported by sfc, that is farm more
> likely than the matrix drivers or the bios
>
> <nmor...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2177c3e0-9e77-46a4-a4c1-...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 6:10 pm, "gerryf" <gerry...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> As near as I can tell, this motherboard has some difficulty seeing
> >> optical
> >> sata drives.

>
> >> First, the jmicron controller (I think it is port 1) cannot see optical
> >> drives at all--I don't think you are using that one, so we will dismiss
> >> that.

>
> >> Another fairly common issue is out of date bios--what bios are you using?

>
> >> Another common issue is that old Intel Storage Manage drivers are the
> >> culprit. It seems updating these to the most current version solves a lot
> >> of
> >> the issues. Don't get the ones off the Asus site

>
> >> Try the Intel site

>
> >>http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Prod...ProductID=2101

>
> > Interesting comment about the bios. I'm using the original bios, not
> > sure which version and I've had the motherboard about 6months.
> > Generally I don't like updating bios's unless absolutely necessary.
> > The bios doesn't seem to be an issue as it will recognise the drive
> > and can even run an install DVD of Vista from it.

>
> > Disabling writing caching as suggested earlier didn't help I'm afraid
> > (although the drive did appear momentarily in My Computer). The
> > JMicron controller has always been disabled (I have no intention of
> > using it). And I should have mentioned this is on an AMD platform and
> > I have the latest drivers for the 570 chipset and graphics card from
> > Nvidia. One interesting thing, Vlite which I was going to use to build
> > a new Vista install with up to date drivers etc. won't work! I get an
> > error message saying the WIM filter is not installed, and upon
> > installing it still get reports of Mounting problems. Since I
> > originally had this device running when MagicISO virtual CD drive was
> > disabled I wondered if this was the problem, but have tried
> > reinstalling/uninstalling this application, various system rollbacks
> > etc. and still no good. Also Windows SFC reports that some files are
> > corrupt and it cannot fix them so next idea is to try a scandisk.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Ok, sorry but now I'm lost. What is the intel matrix drive and how
would that affect a AMD system?
 
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gerryf
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      02-10-2008
I'm sorry--I must be dumber than a box of rocks....I was looking at a
different motherboard. Even though you said AMD, I kept looking at the wrong
manual.

Sorry.

What nvidia drivers are you using? The ones from Asus or off the Nvidia
site?






<> wrote in message
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> On Feb 9, 8:56 pm, "gerryf" <gerry...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> what about the intel matrix drive?
>>
>> That said, if you have errors are being reported by sfc, that is farm
>> more
>> likely than the matrix drivers or the bios
>>
>> <nmor...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:2177c3e0-9e77-46a4-a4c1-...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 9, 6:10 pm, "gerryf" <gerry...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> As near as I can tell, this motherboard has some difficulty seeing
>> >> optical
>> >> sata drives.

>>
>> >> First, the jmicron controller (I think it is port 1) cannot see
>> >> optical
>> >> drives at all--I don't think you are using that one, so we will
>> >> dismiss
>> >> that.

>>
>> >> Another fairly common issue is out of date bios--what bios are you
>> >> using?

>>
>> >> Another common issue is that old Intel Storage Manage drivers are the
>> >> culprit. It seems updating these to the most current version solves a
>> >> lot
>> >> of
>> >> the issues. Don't get the ones off the Asus site

>>
>> >> Try the Intel site

>>
>> >>http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Prod...ProductID=2101

>>
>> > Interesting comment about the bios. I'm using the original bios, not
>> > sure which version and I've had the motherboard about 6months.
>> > Generally I don't like updating bios's unless absolutely necessary.
>> > The bios doesn't seem to be an issue as it will recognise the drive
>> > and can even run an install DVD of Vista from it.

>>
>> > Disabling writing caching as suggested earlier didn't help I'm afraid
>> > (although the drive did appear momentarily in My Computer). The
>> > JMicron controller has always been disabled (I have no intention of
>> > using it). And I should have mentioned this is on an AMD platform and
>> > I have the latest drivers for the 570 chipset and graphics card from
>> > Nvidia. One interesting thing, Vlite which I was going to use to build
>> > a new Vista install with up to date drivers etc. won't work! I get an
>> > error message saying the WIM filter is not installed, and upon
>> > installing it still get reports of Mounting problems. Since I
>> > originally had this device running when MagicISO virtual CD drive was
>> > disabled I wondered if this was the problem, but have tried
>> > reinstalling/uninstalling this application, various system rollbacks
>> > etc. and still no good. Also Windows SFC reports that some files are
>> > corrupt and it cannot fix them so next idea is to try a scandisk.- Hide
>> > quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Ok, sorry but now I'm lost. What is the intel matrix drive and how
> would that affect a AMD system?


 
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      02-10-2008
On Feb 10, 1:32*am, "gerryf" <gerry...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm sorry--I must be dumber than a box of rocks....I was looking at a
> different motherboard. Even though you said AMD, I kept looking at the wrong
> manual.
>
> Sorry.
>
> What nvidia drivers are you using? The ones from Asus or off the Nvidia
> site?
>
> <nmor...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:408e4240-0f86-415f-8517-...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 8:56 pm, "gerryf" <gerry...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> what about the intel matrix drive?

>
> >> That said, if you have errors are being reported by sfc, that is farm
> >> more
> >> likely than the matrix drivers or the bios

>
> >> <nmor...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:2177c3e0-9e77-46a4-a4c1-....

>
> >> > On Feb 9, 6:10 pm, "gerryf" <gerry...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> As near as I can tell, this motherboard has some difficulty seeing
> >> >> optical
> >> >> sata drives.

>
> >> >> First, the jmicron controller (I think it is port 1) cannot see
> >> >> optical
> >> >> drives at all--I don't think you are using that one, so we will
> >> >> dismiss
> >> >> that.

>
> >> >> Another fairly common issue is out of date bios--what bios are you
> >> >> using?

>
> >> >> Another common issue is that old Intel Storage Manage drivers are the
> >> >> culprit. It seems updating these to the most current version solves a
> >> >> lot
> >> >> of
> >> >> the issues. Don't get the ones off the Asus site

>
> >> >> Try the Intel site

>
> >> >>http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Prod...ProductID=2101

>
> >> > Interesting comment about the bios. I'm using the original bios, not
> >> > sure which version and I've had the motherboard about 6months.
> >> > Generally I don't like updating bios's unless absolutely necessary.
> >> > The bios doesn't seem to be an issue as it will recognise the drive
> >> > and can even run an install DVD of Vista from it.

>
> >> > Disabling writing caching as suggested earlier didn't help I'm afraid
> >> > (although the drive did appear momentarily in My Computer). The
> >> > JMicron controller has always been disabled (I have no intention of
> >> > using it). And I should have mentioned this is on an AMD platform and
> >> > I have the latest drivers for the 570 chipset and graphics card from
> >> > Nvidia. One interesting thing, Vlite which I was going to use to build
> >> > a new Vista install with up to date drivers etc. won't work! I get an
> >> > error message saying the WIM filter is not installed, and upon
> >> > installing it still get reports of Mounting problems. Since I
> >> > originally had this device running when MagicISO virtual CD drive was
> >> > disabled I wondered if this was the problem, but have tried
> >> > reinstalling/uninstalling this application, various system rollbacks
> >> > etc. and still no good. Also Windows SFC reports that some files are
> >> > corrupt and it cannot fix them so next idea is to try a scandisk.- Hide
> >> > quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > Ok, sorry but now I'm lost. What is the intel matrix drive and how
> > would that affect a AMD system?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


The ones from the Nvidia site - thanks for your help but now getting
lots of BSOD so preparing a disc on work laptop to do a rebuild. Looks
like something more serious is up! Still would have been interested to
know why it was playing up
 
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