SBS 2008 update problem.

I reinstalled SBS 2008 premium 64bit.
After it was done I had an installation issue. It was this:
"One or more updates cannot be installed.
So I go over to Start then click on Windows Update.
It says that Windows is up to date. I even did a check
for updates and it still says it's up to date.
I went to the Change Settings for the updates and everything
is grayed out, except for recommended updates.
It says that "some settings are managed by your system administrator."
I am the system administrator and it won't let me change how to install
updates.
This is a royal pain in the but.
Remember, this is a new install.
Please advise and thanks.

john doe wrote:
> I reinstalled SBS 2008 premium 64bit.
> After it was done I had an installation issue. It was this:
> "One or more updates cannot be installed.
Normal. Stop asking for updates during the install.
> So I go over to Start then click on Windows Update.
> It says that Windows is up to date. I even did a check
> for updates and it still says it's up to date.
Flip over to Microsoft update. What it did was installed everything
during the install and then gave a bogus message.
> I went to the Change Settings for the updates and everything
> is grayed out, except for recommended updates.
> It says that "some settings are managed by your system administrator."
Yes, that's WSUS, but just change the WU over to MU, manually scan and
it will find patches.
> I am the system administrator and it won't let me change how to install
> updates.
Yes it does.
> This is a royal pain in the but.
It's working as it should. It just is LOUSY at communicating what is
going on.
> Remember, this is a new install.
Yup, no worries.
> Please advise and thanks.
Never choose to install updates during the initial install.
Flip update settings over to Microsoft Update (there's a little box in
there to choose to check for updates for more than just Windows).
>
>

It recommended the updates because it said the installation might not work
correctly.
Where is that switch at?


"Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
news:...
> john doe wrote:
>> I reinstalled SBS 2008 premium 64bit.
>> After it was done I had an installation issue. It was this:
>> "One or more updates cannot be installed.
> Normal. Stop asking for updates during the install.
>> So I go over to Start then click on Windows Update.
>> It says that Windows is up to date. I even did a check
>> for updates and it still says it's up to date.
> Flip over to Microsoft update. What it did was installed everything
> during the install and then gave a bogus message.
>> I went to the Change Settings for the updates and everything
>> is grayed out, except for recommended updates.
>> It says that "some settings are managed by your system administrator."
> Yes, that's WSUS, but just change the WU over to MU, manually scan and it
> will find patches.
>> I am the system administrator and it won't let me change how to install
>> updates.
> Yes it does.
>> This is a royal pain in the but.
> It's working as it should. It just is LOUSY at communicating what is
> going on.
>> Remember, this is a new install.
> Yup, no worries.
>> Please advise and thanks.
> Never choose to install updates during the initial install.
> Flip update settings over to Microsoft Update (there's a little box in
> there to choose to check for updates for more than just Windows).
>>

john doe wrote:
> It recommended the updates because it said the installation might not work
> correctly.
> Where is that switch at?

They lie. There is not a single update out right now that helps in the
install process.

You introduce more risk when you choose updates during the install.

Be a true geek. Stop reading instructions! :-)

In the Windows update screen look for a tiny little comment about "would
you like more updates for products other than Windows" something along
those lines. Click there and follow the instructions to 'flip' to
Microsoft update.
>
>
> "Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> john doe wrote:
>>> I reinstalled SBS 2008 premium 64bit.
>>> After it was done I had an installation issue. It was this:
>>> "One or more updates cannot be installed.
>> Normal. Stop asking for updates during the install.
>>> So I go over to Start then click on Windows Update.
>>> It says that Windows is up to date. I even did a check
>>> for updates and it still says it's up to date.
>> Flip over to Microsoft update. What it did was installed everything
>> during the install and then gave a bogus message.
>>> I went to the Change Settings for the updates and everything
>>> is grayed out, except for recommended updates.
>>> It says that "some settings are managed by your system administrator."
>> Yes, that's WSUS, but just change the WU over to MU, manually scan and it
>> will find patches.
>>> I am the system administrator and it won't let me change how to install
>>> updates.
>> Yes it does.
>>> This is a royal pain in the but.
>> It's working as it should. It just is LOUSY at communicating what is
>> going on.
>>> Remember, this is a new install.
>> Yup, no worries.
>>> Please advise and thanks.
>> Never choose to install updates during the initial install.
>> Flip update settings over to Microsoft Update (there's a little box in
>> there to choose to check for updates for more than just Windows).
>

That's the problem I have. Microsoft says one thing and the MVP's say
another. How do we know which is right?


"Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
news:OGC%...
> john doe wrote:
>> It recommended the updates because it said the installation might not
>> work correctly.
>> Where is that switch at?
>
> They lie. There is not a single update out right now that helps in the
> install process.
>
> You introduce more risk when you choose updates during the install.
>
> Be a true geek. Stop reading instructions! :-)
>
> In the Windows update screen look for a tiny little comment about "would
> you like more updates for products other than Windows" something along
> those lines. Click there and follow the instructions to 'flip' to
> Microsoft update.
>>
>>
>> "Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> john doe wrote:
>>>> I reinstalled SBS 2008 premium 64bit.
>>>> After it was done I had an installation issue. It was this:
>>>> "One or more updates cannot be installed.
>>> Normal. Stop asking for updates during the install.
>>>> So I go over to Start then click on Windows Update.
>>>> It says that Windows is up to date. I even did a check
>>>> for updates and it still says it's up to date.
>>> Flip over to Microsoft update. What it did was installed everything
>>> during the install and then gave a bogus message.
>>>> I went to the Change Settings for the updates and everything
>>>> is grayed out, except for recommended updates.
>>>> It says that "some settings are managed by your system administrator."
>>> Yes, that's WSUS, but just change the WU over to MU, manually scan and
>>> it will find patches.
>>>> I am the system administrator and it won't let me change how to install
>>>> updates.
>>> Yes it does.
>>>> This is a royal pain in the but.
>>> It's working as it should. It just is LOUSY at communicating what is
>>> going on.
>>>> Remember, this is a new install.
>>> Yup, no worries.
>>>> Please advise and thanks.
>>> Never choose to install updates during the initial install.
>>> Flip update settings over to Microsoft Update (there's a little box in
>>> there to choose to check for updates for more than just Windows).
>>

Do you really expect to receive a definitive answer to your question? I look
at what Microsoft says as more theoretical and what the MVPs find out is
through practical experience. If you're really unsure then you should open a
support case with Microsoft CSS and let them help you.

"john doe" <> wrote in message
news:...
> That's the problem I have. Microsoft says one thing and the MVP's say
> another. How do we know which is right?
>
>
> "Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
> news:OGC%...
>> john doe wrote:
>>> It recommended the updates because it said the installation might not
>>> work correctly.
>>> Where is that switch at?
>>
>> They lie. There is not a single update out right now that helps in the
>> install process.
>>
>> You introduce more risk when you choose updates during the install.
>>
>> Be a true geek. Stop reading instructions! :-)
>>
>> In the Windows update screen look for a tiny little comment about "would
>> you like more updates for products other than Windows" something along
>> those lines. Click there and follow the instructions to 'flip' to
>> Microsoft update.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> john doe wrote:
>>>>> I reinstalled SBS 2008 premium 64bit.
>>>>> After it was done I had an installation issue. It was this:
>>>>> "One or more updates cannot be installed.
>>>> Normal. Stop asking for updates during the install.
>>>>> So I go over to Start then click on Windows Update.
>>>>> It says that Windows is up to date. I even did a check
>>>>> for updates and it still says it's up to date.
>>>> Flip over to Microsoft update. What it did was installed everything
>>>> during the install and then gave a bogus message.
>>>>> I went to the Change Settings for the updates and everything
>>>>> is grayed out, except for recommended updates.
>>>>> It says that "some settings are managed by your system administrator."
>>>> Yes, that's WSUS, but just change the WU over to MU, manually scan and
>>>> it will find patches.
>>>>> I am the system administrator and it won't let me change how to
>>>>> install updates.
>>>> Yes it does.
>>>>> This is a royal pain in the but.
>>>> It's working as it should. It just is LOUSY at communicating what is
>>>> going on.
>>>>> Remember, this is a new install.
>>>> Yup, no worries.
>>>>> Please advise and thanks.
>>>> Never choose to install updates during the initial install.
>>>> Flip update settings over to Microsoft Update (there's a little box in
>>>> there to choose to check for updates for more than just Windows).
>>>
>
>

It's not there.

"Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
news:OGC%...
> john doe wrote:
>> It recommended the updates because it said the installation might not
>> work correctly.
>> Where is that switch at?
>
> They lie. There is not a single update out right now that helps in the
> install process.
>
> You introduce more risk when you choose updates during the install.
>
> Be a true geek. Stop reading instructions! :-)
>
> In the Windows update screen look for a tiny little comment about "would
> you like more updates for products other than Windows" something along
> those lines. Click there and follow the instructions to 'flip' to
> Microsoft update.
>>
>>
>> "Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> john doe wrote:
>>>> I reinstalled SBS 2008 premium 64bit.
>>>> After it was done I had an installation issue. It was this:
>>>> "One or more updates cannot be installed.
>>> Normal. Stop asking for updates during the install.
>>>> So I go over to Start then click on Windows Update.
>>>> It says that Windows is up to date. I even did a check
>>>> for updates and it still says it's up to date.
>>> Flip over to Microsoft update. What it did was installed everything
>>> during the install and then gave a bogus message.
>>>> I went to the Change Settings for the updates and everything
>>>> is grayed out, except for recommended updates.
>>>> It says that "some settings are managed by your system administrator."
>>> Yes, that's WSUS, but just change the WU over to MU, manually scan and
>>> it will find patches.
>>>> I am the system administrator and it won't let me change how to install
>>>> updates.
>>> Yes it does.
>>>> This is a royal pain in the but.
>>> It's working as it should. It just is LOUSY at communicating what is
>>> going on.
>>>> Remember, this is a new install.
>>> Yup, no worries.
>>>> Please advise and thanks.
>>> Never choose to install updates during the initial install.
>>> Flip update settings over to Microsoft Update (there's a little box in
>>> there to choose to check for updates for more than just Windows).
>>

John: On the windows update control panel, you'll see three lines below the
very large status box.

Line 1: Time of last update check.
Line 2: Time of last update install.
Line 3: Which products the updater is checking for. It *SHOULD* say "For
Windows and other Microsoft products"

If Line 3 says "For Windows only" then there is usually a link (as I recall)
or similar to change that. Worst case, choose "change settings" on the left
action-pane of the control panel and there is a checkbox in there to turn
this on.

-Cliff


"john doe" <> wrote in message
news:...
> It's not there.
>
> "Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
> news:OGC%
>> john doe wrote:
>>> It recommended the updates because it said the installation might not W
>>> work correctly.
>>> Where is that switch at?
>>
>> They lie. There is not a single update out right now that helps in the
>> install process.
>>
>> You introduce more risk when you choose updates during the install.
>>
>> Be a true geek. Stop reading instructions! :-)
>>
>> In the Windows update screen look for a tiny little comment about "would
>> you like more updates for products other than Windows" something along
>> those lines. Click there and follow the instructions to 'flip' to
>> Microsoft update.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> john doe wrote:
>>>>> I reinstalled SBS 2008 premium 64bit.
>>>>> After it was done I had an installation issue. It was this:
>>>>> "One or more updates cannot be installed.
>>>> Normal. Stop asking for updates during the install.
>>>>> So I go over to Start then click on Windows Update.
>>>>> It says that Windows is up to date. I even did a check
>>>>> for updates and it still says it's up to date.
>>>> Flip over to Microsoft update. What it did was installed everything
>>>> during the install and then gave a bogus message.
>>>>> I went to the Change Settings for the updates and everything
>>>>> is grayed out, except for recommended updates.
>>>>> It says that "some settings are managed by your system administrator."
>>>> Yes, that's WSUS, but just change the WU over to MU, manually scan and
>>>> it will find patches.
>>>>> I am the system administrator and it won't let me change how to
>>>>> install updates.
>>>> Yes it does.
>>>>> This is a royal pain in the but.
>>>> It's working as it should. It just is LOUSY at communicating what is
>>>> going on.
>>>>> Remember, this is a new install.
>>>> Yup, no worries.
>>>>> Please advise and thanks.
>>>> Never choose to install updates during the initial install.
>>>> Flip update settings over to Microsoft Update (there's a little box in
>>>> there to choose to check for updates for more than just Windows).
>>>
>
>

It is there.

I just did it on a machine the other day.

john doe wrote:
> It's not there.
>
> "Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
> news:OGC%...
>> john doe wrote:
>>> It recommended the updates because it said the installation might not
>>> work correctly.
>>> Where is that switch at?
>> They lie. There is not a single update out right now that helps in the
>> install process.
>>
>> You introduce more risk when you choose updates during the install.
>>
>> Be a true geek. Stop reading instructions! :-)
>>
>> In the Windows update screen look for a tiny little comment about "would
>> you like more updates for products other than Windows" something along
>> those lines. Click there and follow the instructions to 'flip' to
>> Microsoft update.
>>>
>>> "Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> john doe wrote:
>>>>> I reinstalled SBS 2008 premium 64bit.
>>>>> After it was done I had an installation issue. It was this:
>>>>> "One or more updates cannot be installed.
>>>> Normal. Stop asking for updates during the install.
>>>>> So I go over to Start then click on Windows Update.
>>>>> It says that Windows is up to date. I even did a check
>>>>> for updates and it still says it's up to date.
>>>> Flip over to Microsoft update. What it did was installed everything
>>>> during the install and then gave a bogus message.
>>>>> I went to the Change Settings for the updates and everything
>>>>> is grayed out, except for recommended updates.
>>>>> It says that "some settings are managed by your system administrator."
>>>> Yes, that's WSUS, but just change the WU over to MU, manually scan and
>>>> it will find patches.
>>>>> I am the system administrator and it won't let me change how to install
>>>>> updates.
>>>> Yes it does.
>>>>> This is a royal pain in the but.
>>>> It's working as it should. It just is LOUSY at communicating what is
>>>> going on.
>>>>> Remember, this is a new install.
>>>> Yup, no worries.
>>>>> Please advise and thanks.
>>>> Never choose to install updates during the initial install.
>>>> Flip update settings over to Microsoft Update (there's a little box in
>>>> there to choose to check for updates for more than just Windows).
>
>

Do you want to listen to someone who knows about patching this beast or
a page on a server? :-)

There is truly not a single update that specifically is for the install
process. Not a single one.

Once there is, I will know, I will tell you.

I use the product in my business every day. I write about patching
issues for Windowssecrets.com. I live the product.

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=62403

That link should also flip up the Microsoft update window


john doe wrote:
> That's the problem I have. Microsoft says one thing and the MVP's say
> another. How do we know which is right?
>
>
> "Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
> news:OGC%...
>> john doe wrote:
>>> It recommended the updates because it said the installation might not
>>> work correctly.
>>> Where is that switch at?
>> They lie. There is not a single update out right now that helps in the
>> install process.
>>
>> You introduce more risk when you choose updates during the install.
>>
>> Be a true geek. Stop reading instructions! :-)
>>
>> In the Windows update screen look for a tiny little comment about "would
>> you like more updates for products other than Windows" something along
>> those lines. Click there and follow the instructions to 'flip' to
>> Microsoft update.
>>>
>>> "Susan Bradley" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> john doe wrote:
>>>>> I reinstalled SBS 2008 premium 64bit.
>>>>> After it was done I had an installation issue. It was this:
>>>>> "One or more updates cannot be installed.
>>>> Normal. Stop asking for updates during the install.
>>>>> So I go over to Start then click on Windows Update.
>>>>> It says that Windows is up to date. I even did a check
>>>>> for updates and it still says it's up to date.
>>>> Flip over to Microsoft update. What it did was installed everything
>>>> during the install and then gave a bogus message.
>>>>> I went to the Change Settings for the updates and everything
>>>>> is grayed out, except for recommended updates.
>>>>> It says that "some settings are managed by your system administrator."
>>>> Yes, that's WSUS, but just change the WU over to MU, manually scan and
>>>> it will find patches.
>>>>> I am the system administrator and it won't let me change how to install
>>>>> updates.
>>>> Yes it does.
>>>>> This is a royal pain in the but.
>>>> It's working as it should. It just is LOUSY at communicating what is
>>>> going on.
>>>>> Remember, this is a new install.
>>>> Yup, no worries.
>>>>> Please advise and thanks.
>>>> Never choose to install updates during the initial install.
>>>> Flip update settings over to Microsoft Update (there's a little box in
>>>> there to choose to check for updates for more than just Windows).
>
>