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Leythos
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      12-07-2009

I have a nice new Dell 410 server with 8GB ram, can see it in the POST,
and the Control Panel/System shows a System Memory (RAM): 8.00GB, but
when I open the Task Manager it shows 4GB total memory, it shows the
right number of CPU's and the server is working fine, but I've never
seen the task manager show the wrong amount of memory in SBS 08 before.

Any ideas?

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      12-07-2009

Weird. I notice that in Task Manager, in Help, about--there's a line down
at the bottom that also shows a ram figure--What does that show?

"Leythos" <> wrote in message
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>
> I have a nice new Dell 410 server with 8GB ram, can see it in the POST,
> and the Control Panel/System shows a System Memory (RAM): 8.00GB, but
> when I open the Task Manager it shows 4GB total memory, it shows the
> right number of CPU's and the server is working fine, but I've never
> seen the task manager show the wrong amount of memory in SBS 08 before.
>
> Any ideas?
>
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      12-07-2009
In article <5A78B76D-3577-4C2F-AA46->,
says...
>
> Weird. I notice that in Task Manager, in Help, about--there's a line down
> at the bottom that also shows a ram figure--What does that show?


In Help About, it shows 4,183,344KB memory.

Windows Server Version 6.0 Build 6002 SP2


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      12-07-2009
In article <5E03A9D8-34C5-4A3E-A7F3->,
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> If I have the right box, this thing has some interesting memory configuration options, and some capabilities depend on the bios rev level:
>


But the strange thing is the Win 2008 overview page shows 8GB, just the
task manager shows 4GB. When it posts it shows 8GB also.

I've used Memory Pairing before, on a production server with 32GB RAM,
we did a 16/16 pair, but this one was defaulted with 8GB RAM no special
options/config.

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      12-07-2009
There's certainly something odd going on--the only SBS 2008 server I've got
to look at shows all 8 gigs of the 8 gigs installed in task manager.

I think you are running the same OS code I am, so it seems like there must
be something different going on at the hardware level.

So--Properties of "my computer" shows 8 gigs, but Task manager only shows 4.
On my system they both show 8.

Could this be a bug in Task Manager running on this hardware?


"Leythos" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> In article <5E03A9D8-34C5-4A3E-A7F3->,
> says...
>> If I have the right box, this thing has some interesting memory
>> configuration options, and some capabilities depend on the bios rev
>> level:
>>

>
> But the strange thing is the Win 2008 overview page shows 8GB, just the
> task manager shows 4GB. When it posts it shows 8GB also.
>
> I've used Memory Pairing before, on a production server with 32GB RAM,
> we did a 16/16 pair, but this one was defaulted with 8GB RAM no special
> options/config.
>
> --
> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
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      12-07-2009
In article <#3#n#>,
says...
> There's certainly something odd going on--the only SBS 2008 server I've got
> to look at shows all 8 gigs of the 8 gigs installed in task manager.
>
> I think you are running the same OS code I am, so it seems like there must
> be something different going on at the hardware level.
>
> So--Properties of "my computer" shows 8 gigs, but Task manager only shows 4.
> On my system they both show 8.
>
> Could this be a bug in Task Manager running on this hardware?
>


All my other servers show the correct amount - this is the only Dell 410
series we have.

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      12-07-2009
The real question is whether SBS is getting the full benefit of the 8 gigs,
or not. And the answer so far is equivocal.

What about sysinternals tools? Is there something there that would satisfy
the question of whether the SBS processes are getting the full benefit of
the 8 gigs?

"Leythos" <> wrote in message
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> In article <#3#n#>,
> says...
>> There's certainly something odd going on--the only SBS 2008 server I've
>> got
>> to look at shows all 8 gigs of the 8 gigs installed in task manager.
>>
>> I think you are running the same OS code I am, so it seems like there
>> must
>> be something different going on at the hardware level.
>>
>> So--Properties of "my computer" shows 8 gigs, but Task manager only shows
>> 4.
>> On my system they both show 8.
>>
>> Could this be a bug in Task Manager running on this hardware?
>>

>
> All my other servers show the correct amount - this is the only Dell 410
> series we have.
>
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> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
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      12-08-2009
In article <>,
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> What about sysinternals tools? Is there something there that would satisfy
> the question of whether the SBS processes are getting the full benefit of
> the 8 gigs?
>


Not sure, to tired tonight to check, will have to go onsite one more
time and check it.

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      12-08-2009
I did some searching, but didn't find anything I thought was valid. It
almost seems as though the version of Task Manager is the 32-bit version, or
running in a 32-bit process....

"Leythos" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> In article <>,
> says...
>> What about sysinternals tools? Is there something there that would
>> satisfy
>> the question of whether the SBS processes are getting the full benefit of
>> the 8 gigs?
>>

>
> Not sure, to tired tonight to check, will have to go onsite one more
> time and check it.
>
> --
> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
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      12-08-2009
In article <>,
says...
> I did some searching, but didn't find anything I thought was valid. It
> almost seems as though the version of Task Manager is the 32-bit version, or
> running in a 32-bit process....
>


That would make sense, but the media was shipped directly from MS's
volume licensing group (since we ordered VL with SA)..... I can't
imagine they would get that wrong - it's x64 as we have both a Program
Files folder and a x86 Program Files folder....

taskmgr.exe shows the following:

File Version 6.0.6001.18000
Product version: 6.0.6001.18000
Size 188KB
Date Modified 1/19/2008

Previous version - none

Damn, I just figired it out - they shipped it in MIRROR MODE. When you
install a Dell from scratch they send setup CD that will install the OS
DVD and all Dell drivers, it will also install the Open Manage app.

In Open Manage it shows:

Memory: Redundancy Status: Full
Fail over State: Inactive
Memory Operating Mode Configuration: MIRROR

Dang, dang, dang, dang, dang, dang, dang - I really hate DELL more and
more as we buy each new server from them. It takes 8 call backs to get
the server config right in the quote, then they delay shipping, then
they price OEM even though you've told them Volume Licensing with SA....
Now they ship the server in Memory MIRROR mode.

Thanks for sticking me with on this - I should have used Dell Open
Manage to start with.

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