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Bill Sanderson
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      12-08-2009
I stuck with you not because I had any idea what the answer might be, but
because I wanted to know myself!

Thanks--I guess it makes sense to ship the thing with the most redundant
settings possible. When I bought the HP server I'm running SBS 2008 on, I
didn't know enough, and let the sales rep convince me that a second NIC made
sense.

In the end, I disabled the onboard nic, and am running with the add in which
has a slightly better feature set, not that I am using any of that. I could
team them, but it would break a bunch of wizards, I think, and I really
don't have the need.

I've never run into a mirrored memory configuration before--that's new to
me.

"Leythos" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> In article <>,
> says...
>> I did some searching, but didn't find anything I thought was valid. It
>> almost seems as though the version of Task Manager is the 32-bit version,
>> or
>> running in a 32-bit process....
>>

>
> That would make sense, but the media was shipped directly from MS's
> volume licensing group (since we ordered VL with SA)..... I can't
> imagine they would get that wrong - it's x64 as we have both a Program
> Files folder and a x86 Program Files folder....
>
> taskmgr.exe shows the following:
>
> File Version 6.0.6001.18000
> Product version: 6.0.6001.18000
> Size 188KB
> Date Modified 1/19/2008
>
> Previous version - none
>
> Damn, I just figired it out - they shipped it in MIRROR MODE. When you
> install a Dell from scratch they send setup CD that will install the OS
> DVD and all Dell drivers, it will also install the Open Manage app.
>
> In Open Manage it shows:
>
> Memory: Redundancy Status: Full
> Fail over State: Inactive
> Memory Operating Mode Configuration: MIRROR
>
> Dang, dang, dang, dang, dang, dang, dang - I really hate DELL more and
> more as we buy each new server from them. It takes 8 call backs to get
> the server config right in the quote, then they delay shipping, then
> they price OEM even though you've told them Volume Licensing with SA....
> Now they ship the server in Memory MIRROR mode.
>
> Thanks for sticking me with on this - I should have used Dell Open
> Manage to start with.
>
> --
> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
> Trust yourself.
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      12-08-2009
In article <#>,
says...
>
> I stuck with you not because I had any idea what the answer might be, but
> because I wanted to know myself!
>
> Thanks--I guess it makes sense to ship the thing with the most redundant
> settings possible. When I bought the HP server I'm running SBS 2008 on, I
> didn't know enough, and let the sales rep convince me that a second NIC made
> sense.
>
> In the end, I disabled the onboard nic, and am running with the add in which
> has a slightly better feature set, not that I am using any of that. I could
> team them, but it would break a bunch of wizards, I think, and I really
> don't have the need.
>
> I've never run into a mirrored memory configuration before--that's new to
> me.


Most of our large server, 32/64GB ram ones, are mirrored, but they are
IBM beasts and I expect that level of redundancy from them (4 x PSU,
redundant backplanes, 12 drives with 2 hot spares, 64GB ram setup as
32GB mirrored with 32GB....) - never seen that in a Dell and certainly
didn't expect it in a cheap 410 server from Dell.

The funny thing, since I was there today, they had the memory in MIRROR
mode and Virtualization turned off - so the task manager showed 4GB and
8CPU's, when I enabled Virtualization and set the memory to Optimized, I
get 8GB RAM and 4CPU graphs - we have 2 x E5502 Xeon processors, so I
expected to see 4CPU graphs, but with the Virtualization bit disabled in
the BIOS we see 8 CPU graphs in Task Manager - I left it enabled looking
like we normally see it.

When we ordered a dozen R710 servers they didn't ship in Mirror mode, so
I'm lost as to why they would do that by default.


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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
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Bill Sanderson
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      12-09-2009
I once had an open bug against Task Manager in some version of Windows. It
was showing the amount of ram less exactly 1 (meg? Gig?) and I thought that
was going to look like a virus infection issue--something grabbing that
space away from Windows.

It got fixed, and I got an email which was apparently from the developer
writing the code asking if it was fixed--I said yes!

So apparently even things that look simple--the amount of ram in a system or
the number of CPU cores isn't necessarily so simple for an app to detect.


"Leythos" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> In article <#>,
> says...
>>
>> I stuck with you not because I had any idea what the answer might be, but
>> because I wanted to know myself!
>>
>> Thanks--I guess it makes sense to ship the thing with the most redundant
>> settings possible. When I bought the HP server I'm running SBS 2008 on,
>> I
>> didn't know enough, and let the sales rep convince me that a second NIC
>> made
>> sense.
>>
>> In the end, I disabled the onboard nic, and am running with the add in
>> which
>> has a slightly better feature set, not that I am using any of that. I
>> could
>> team them, but it would break a bunch of wizards, I think, and I really
>> don't have the need.
>>
>> I've never run into a mirrored memory configuration before--that's new to
>> me.

>
> Most of our large server, 32/64GB ram ones, are mirrored, but they are
> IBM beasts and I expect that level of redundancy from them (4 x PSU,
> redundant backplanes, 12 drives with 2 hot spares, 64GB ram setup as
> 32GB mirrored with 32GB....) - never seen that in a Dell and certainly
> didn't expect it in a cheap 410 server from Dell.
>
> The funny thing, since I was there today, they had the memory in MIRROR
> mode and Virtualization turned off - so the task manager showed 4GB and
> 8CPU's, when I enabled Virtualization and set the memory to Optimized, I
> get 8GB RAM and 4CPU graphs - we have 2 x E5502 Xeon processors, so I
> expected to see 4CPU graphs, but with the Virtualization bit disabled in
> the BIOS we see 8 CPU graphs in Task Manager - I left it enabled looking
> like we normally see it.
>
> When we ordered a dozen R710 servers they didn't ship in Mirror mode, so
> I'm lost as to why they would do that by default.
>
>
> --
> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
> Trust yourself.
> (remove 999 for proper email address)


 
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