SBS2008 memory requirements

All this time with SBS2003, weve had 4gigs of memory and did everything
inside of that, like it or not. 1 user or 75 users, ISA, SQL, or what ever -
still 4 gigs.

Now I am getting ready to migrate some users to SBS 2008 and can go to what
4 terabyes of memory? What would that be for, a replacement of a old Cray
computer!!!

Anyway, Obviously I could still use 4 gigs on the new box, or inthe case of
SQL, a new box with 4 gigs on it too.

BUT! I always wonder, should I go with mayby 6gigs, or 12 gigs? It does add
not a small cost to the customer.

Those of you that have done SBS2008, generally speaking is there a sweet
spot that is really a minimum perhaps? From a PRACTICAL viewpoint, is there a
reasonable figure to start out with?

My professional (and personal) opinion is if you are going to the trouble
and expense of setting up a new server just go with 16gb RAM now. For a few
hundred dollars save yourself time and expense later and run very smoothly
with all of SBS including SQL. At a minimum I would not run with less than
8gb.

"Joe#2" <> wrote in message
news:B75372D1-9D1B-4532-A67F-...
> All this time with SBS2003, weve had 4gigs of memory and did everything
> inside of that, like it or not. 1 user or 75 users, ISA, SQL, or what
> ever -
> still 4 gigs.
>
> Now I am getting ready to migrate some users to SBS 2008 and can go to
> what
> 4 terabyes of memory? What would that be for, a replacement of a old Cray
> computer!!!
>
> Anyway, Obviously I could still use 4 gigs on the new box, or inthe case
> of
> SQL, a new box with 4 gigs on it too.
>
> BUT! I always wonder, should I go with mayby 6gigs, or 12 gigs? It does
> add
> not a small cost to the customer.
>
> Those of you that have done SBS2008, generally speaking is there a sweet
> spot that is really a minimum perhaps? From a PRACTICAL viewpoint, is
> there a
> reasonable figure to start out with?

I think you'll find most recommendations are for 8 GB minimum with light
use/small number of users. Many are using 16 GB+ depending on the workload.

"Joe#2" <> wrote in message
news:B75372D1-9D1B-4532-A67F-...
> All this time with SBS2003, weve had 4gigs of memory and did everything
> inside of that, like it or not. 1 user or 75 users, ISA, SQL, or what
> ever -
> still 4 gigs.
>
> Now I am getting ready to migrate some users to SBS 2008 and can go to
> what
> 4 terabyes of memory? What would that be for, a replacement of a old Cray
> computer!!!
>
> Anyway, Obviously I could still use 4 gigs on the new box, or inthe case
> of
> SQL, a new box with 4 gigs on it too.
>
> BUT! I always wonder, should I go with mayby 6gigs, or 12 gigs? It does
> add
> not a small cost to the customer.
>
> Those of you that have done SBS2008, generally speaking is there a sweet
> spot that is really a minimum perhaps? From a PRACTICAL viewpoint, is
> there a
> reasonable figure to start out with?

I did find this post that has a lot of input, "SBS2008 Std config Server
Question".

But, I would still welcome your input too!

"Joe#2" wrote:

> All this time with SBS2003, weve had 4gigs of memory and did everything
> inside of that, like it or not. 1 user or 75 users, ISA, SQL, or what ever -
> still 4 gigs.
>
> Now I am getting ready to migrate some users to SBS 2008 and can go to what
> 4 terabyes of memory? What would that be for, a replacement of a old Cray
> computer!!!
>
> Anyway, Obviously I could still use 4 gigs on the new box, or inthe case of
> SQL, a new box with 4 gigs on it too.
>
> BUT! I always wonder, should I go with mayby 6gigs, or 12 gigs? It does add
> not a small cost to the customer.
>
> Those of you that have done SBS2008, generally speaking is there a sweet
> spot that is really a minimum perhaps? From a PRACTICAL viewpoint, is there a
> reasonable figure to start out with?

Like others no less than 8GB (And you tweak Basic SQL memory usage)
(this of course is a basic system no apps other than AV on it.)

Russ

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MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
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"Joe#2" <> wrote in message
news:B75372D1-9D1B-4532-A67F-...
> All this time with SBS2003, weve had 4gigs of memory and did everything
> inside of that, like it or not. 1 user or 75 users, ISA, SQL, or what
> ever -
> still 4 gigs.
>
> Now I am getting ready to migrate some users to SBS 2008 and can go to
> what
> 4 terabyes of memory? What would that be for, a replacement of a old Cray
> computer!!!
>
> Anyway, Obviously I could still use 4 gigs on the new box, or inthe case
> of
> SQL, a new box with 4 gigs on it too.
>
> BUT! I always wonder, should I go with mayby 6gigs, or 12 gigs? It does
> add
> not a small cost to the customer.
>
> Those of you that have done SBS2008, generally speaking is there a sweet
> spot that is really a minimum perhaps? From a PRACTICAL viewpoint, is
> there a
> reasonable figure to start out with?

Joe#2 wrote:
> All this time with SBS2003, weve had 4gigs of memory and did everything
> inside of that, like it or not. 1 user or 75 users, ISA, SQL, or what ever -
> still 4 gigs.
>
> Now I am getting ready to migrate some users to SBS 2008 and can go to what
> 4 terabyes of memory? What would that be for, a replacement of a old Cray
> computer!!!
>
> Anyway, Obviously I could still use 4 gigs on the new box, or inthe case of
> SQL, a new box with 4 gigs on it too.
>
> BUT! I always wonder, should I go with mayby 6gigs, or 12 gigs? It does add
> not a small cost to the customer.
>
> Those of you that have done SBS2008, generally speaking is there a sweet
> spot that is really a minimum perhaps? From a PRACTICAL viewpoint, is there a
> reasonable figure to start out with?
>
win2k8 standard can only support 32 gigs of ram.

16 gigs here running fine.

Pardon my confusion factor here. I have read several post that referred to
having SQL on the main box. I thought SQL had to go on a seperate box ie when
using SBS2008 premium??

"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Like others no less than 8GB (And you tweak Basic SQL memory usage)
> (this of course is a basic system no apps other than AV on it.)
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com
>
>
> "Joe#2" <> wrote in message
> news:B75372D1-9D1B-4532-A67F-...
> > All this time with SBS2003, weve had 4gigs of memory and did everything
> > inside of that, like it or not. 1 user or 75 users, ISA, SQL, or what
> > ever -
> > still 4 gigs.
> >
> > Now I am getting ready to migrate some users to SBS 2008 and can go to
> > what
> > 4 terabyes of memory? What would that be for, a replacement of a old Cray
> > computer!!!
> >
> > Anyway, Obviously I could still use 4 gigs on the new box, or inthe case
> > of
> > SQL, a new box with 4 gigs on it too.
> >
> > BUT! I always wonder, should I go with mayby 6gigs, or 12 gigs? It does
> > add
> > not a small cost to the customer.
> >
> > Those of you that have done SBS2008, generally speaking is there a sweet
> > spot that is really a minimum perhaps? From a PRACTICAL viewpoint, is
> > there a
> > reasonable figure to start out with?
>

Prefered, but not required to be on second box. Can be a VM for both SBS
and Server on one physical box. Only users who actually engage with SQL
need premium CALS.

That is just about the summary of SBS 2008 Premium and SQL.

Of course the devil is in the details.

Hum, I stated my question incorrectly. I knew it could be on one box using VM
for both. My question is can they both be on one physical box, as they exist
in SBS2003, with SQL running inside of SBS2008? That is what I seem to be
reading in some of the post??

"Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Prefered, but not required to be on second box. Can be a VM for both SBS
> and Server on one physical box. Only users who actually engage with SQL
> need premium CALS.
>
> That is just about the summary of SBS 2008 Premium and SQL.
>
> Of course the devil is in the details.
>
>
> .
>

Yes, one physical box is allowed, but not recommended. No application "ought"
to be on a DC, but with SBS the team makes exceptions. Also, the hardware
(memory) requirements are such now that both SQL and Exchange might, could,
may, sometimes can put a strain on a single server. (Don't want anyone to
say that I said you should not run Exchange and SQL on one physical box because
of memory constraints. Maybe you should and maybe you shouldn't for a whole
host of reasons.)