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webster72n
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      04-04-2009
In order to make my dial-up modem work with linux, I have to integrate
(copy)the 'scanModem.gz' file with (to) my modem file in Vista.
Not wanting to risk complications, I would like to know whether it's safe to
do that.
The linux (ubuntu) system is on a VirtualBox inside Vista.
Any comments greatly appreciated.

Harry.

 
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Andrew McLaren
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      04-04-2009

> In order to make my dial-up modem work with linux, I have to integrate
> (copy)the 'scanModem.gz' file with (to) my modem file in Vista.
> Not wanting to risk complications, I would like to know whether it's
> safe to do that.
> The linux (ubuntu) system is on a VirtualBox inside Vista.
> Any comments greatly appreciated.


I'm guessing a bit, but ... I don't think this will work.

It sounds like you have a PC with a Winmodem for dial-up connection to
the Internet, right? You can use the modem okay from the Windows Vista
host, and you'd also like to use the same modem from the Linux guest,
running in VirtualBox, to connect to the Internet - right?

The guest OS in VirtualBox cannot see all the hardware which is
installed in the host machine. It can only see the hardware which is
emulated by VirtualBox's virtual machine. I'm fairly sure the VM will
have no awareness of the Winmodem hardware on the host machine; it can
only "see" the hardware in the VM.

If you dual-boot between Windows and Linux, the Linmodem software (which
scanModem.gz is used to configure) can "see" the Winmodem hardware,
because it is running on the physical host, not in a VM.

Probably what you need to do is to create a network connection between
the Linux VM and the Windows host. This would be a normal TCP/IP network
connection over the guest's emulated network card. Then, connect to the
Internet using the dial-up Winmodem from Windows. As long as you have
your networking and routing configured correctly, the Linux guest should
be able to get an Internet connection via the host's dialup connection.

You're probably more likely to get good advice by asking in the
VirtualBox forums:

http://forums.virtualbox.org

More folks there will have a detailed knowledge of the VirtualBox
environment, than you'd find in this newsgroup. Also try the Linmodem
discussion list: see http://linmodems.org

Hope this helps a bit,

Andrew
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amclar at optunet dot com dot au
 
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      04-04-2009


"Andrew McLaren" <> wrote in message
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>
>> In order to make my dial-up modem work with linux, I have to integrate
>> (copy)the 'scanModem.gz' file with (to) my modem file in Vista.
>> Not wanting to risk complications, I would like to know whether it's safe
>> to do that.
>> The linux (ubuntu) system is on a VirtualBox inside Vista.
>> Any comments greatly appreciated.

>
> I'm guessing a bit, but ... I don't think this will work.
>
> It sounds like you have a PC with a Winmodem for dial-up connection to the
> Internet, right? You can use the modem okay from the Windows Vista host,
> and you'd also like to use the same modem from the Linux guest, running in
> VirtualBox, to connect to the Internet - right?
>
> The guest OS in VirtualBox cannot see all the hardware which is installed
> in the host machine. It can only see the hardware which is emulated by
> VirtualBox's virtual machine. I'm fairly sure the VM will have no
> awareness of the Winmodem hardware on the host machine; it can only "see"
> the hardware in the VM.
>
> If you dual-boot between Windows and Linux, the Linmodem software (which
> scanModem.gz is used to configure) can "see" the Winmodem hardware,
> because it is running on the physical host, not in a VM.
>
> Probably what you need to do is to create a network connection between the
> Linux VM and the Windows host. This would be a normal TCP/IP network
> connection over the guest's emulated network card. Then, connect to the
> Internet using the dial-up Winmodem from Windows. As long as you have your
> networking and routing configured correctly, the Linux guest should be
> able to get an Internet connection via the host's dialup connection.
>
> You're probably more likely to get good advice by asking in the VirtualBox
> forums:
>
> http://forums.virtualbox.org
>
> More folks there will have a detailed knowledge of the VirtualBox
> environment, than you'd find in this newsgroup. Also try the Linmodem
> discussion list: see http://linmodems.org
>
> Hope this helps a bit,


I very much appreciate your input and help, which is a lot
According to my system, this is supposed to work in conjunction with the
linux terminal by typing in specific information, which I have available.
But I will try your given links to make sure.
Thanks a million. <H>.

>
> Andrew
> --
> amclar at optunet dot com dot au


 
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Andrew McLaren
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      04-04-2009
> According to my system, this is supposed to work in conjunction with the
> linux terminal by typing in specific information, which I have available.


Okay, but ... what is this information, that you're supposed to enter at
the terminal??

It could work if you have Linux running on the physical PC hardware.

But I'm not sure it can work if you have Linux running in a Virtual
Machine. It doesn't matter whether that VM is provided by VirtualBox,
VMWare or Virtual PC - the guest OS will only see the hardware exposed
by the VM, it won't see all the host machine's native hardware. This is
pretty fundamental to how virtualisation works.

If you run the scanModem script and the resulting ModemData.txt reports
that it can see the modem from within the Linux guest, then maybe it
will work. But I suspect this is a pretty uncommon scenario.

Good luck,

Andrew
 
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webster72n
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      04-04-2009


"Andrew McLaren" <> wrote in message
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>> According to my system, this is supposed to work in conjunction with the
>> linux terminal by typing in specific information, which I have available.

>
> Okay, but ... what is this information, that you're supposed to enter at
> the terminal??
>
> It could work if you have Linux running on the physical PC hardware.
>
> But I'm not sure it can work if you have Linux running in a Virtual
> Machine. It doesn't matter whether that VM is provided by VirtualBox,
> VMWare or Virtual PC - the guest OS will only see the hardware exposed by
> the VM, it won't see all the host machine's native hardware. This is
> pretty fundamental to how virtualisation works.
>
> If you run the scanModem script and the resulting ModemData.txt reports
> that it can see the modem from within the Linux guest, then maybe it will
> work. But I suspect this is a pretty uncommon scenario.


To my understanding that's how it is supposed to work.
I will try it and then let you know if it works or not.
Thanks, <H>.

>
> Good luck,
>
> Andrew


 
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