Scheduled Defrag in Vista Home Premium

The "scheduled defragmentation " feature in my Vista does not appear to work.
In the task window I select the time/date. When I go to the status window I
note that the "Next scheduled run" line, the correct time/date is indicated.
Once I close out of it, the "Next scheduled run" line switches to "never",
even though the scheduled defragmentation is enabled. It will not defrag
automatically, either. It will go for days and the only defrag that ever
happens is when I defrag manually. HP techs don't know how to help the
problem and MS would be glad to help for a hefty charge of $69. Anybody else
experience this defrag problem, or better yet, have a solution?

How often do you want to defrag?

I assume you have administrator authority when you try to reset it?

"roger" <> wrote in message
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> The "scheduled defragmentation " feature in my Vista does not appear to
> work.
> In the task window I select the time/date. When I go to the status window
> I
> note that the "Next scheduled run" line, the correct time/date is
> indicated.
> Once I close out of it, the "Next scheduled run" line switches to "never",
> even though the scheduled defragmentation is enabled. It will not defrag
> automatically, either. It will go for days and the only defrag that ever
> happens is when I defrag manually. HP techs don't know how to help the
> problem and MS would be glad to help for a hefty charge of $69. Anybody
> else
> experience this defrag problem, or better yet, have a solution?

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Leave the defrag alone, its doing just fine in Vista, it runs at all time in
the background as a low priority process keeping your Windows Vista system
in tip top shape. Its pretty cool stuff.
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...g-is-cool.aspx
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"roger" <> wrote in message
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> The "scheduled defragmentation " feature in my Vista does not appear to
> work.
> In the task window I select the time/date. When I go to the status window
> I
> note that the "Next scheduled run" line, the correct time/date is
> indicated.
> Once I close out of it, the "Next scheduled run" line switches to "never",
> even though the scheduled defragmentation is enabled. It will not defrag
> automatically, either. It will go for days and the only defrag that ever
> happens is when I defrag manually. HP techs don't know how to help the
> problem and MS would be glad to help for a hefty charge of $69. Anybody
> else
> experience this defrag problem, or better yet, have a solution?

Hallo,
I did also some investigation on it and i agree that the defrag is running
on low priority but not always..
In the taskmanager the parameters are set for all discs and low priority but
weekly on a fix day and hour.


regards
Huib
"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> schreef in bericht
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> Leave the defrag alone, its doing just fine in Vista, it runs at all time
> in the background as a low priority process keeping your Windows Vista
> system in tip top shape. Its pretty cool stuff.
> http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...g-is-cool.aspx
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "roger" <> wrote in message
> news:C16C00EF-18D6-406E-812E-...
>> The "scheduled defragmentation " feature in my Vista does not appear to
>> work.
>> In the task window I select the time/date. When I go to the status window
>> I
>> note that the "Next scheduled run" line, the correct time/date is
>> indicated.
>> Once I close out of it, the "Next scheduled run" line switches to
>> "never",
>> even though the scheduled defragmentation is enabled. It will not defrag
>> automatically, either. It will go for days and the only defrag that ever
>> happens is when I defrag manually. HP techs don't know how to help the
>> problem and MS would be glad to help for a hefty charge of $69. Anybody
>> else
>> experience this defrag problem, or better yet, have a solution?
>
>

But you have to understand, its being done for you automatically, in
previous versions of Windows, did had to be done manually and usually once
in a blue moon. I can't even tell when last I started a defrag on my XP
machine, but Vista is doing it for me.
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http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Huib" <> wrote in message
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> Hallo,
> I did also some investigation on it and i agree that the defrag is running
> on low priority but not always..
> In the taskmanager the parameters are set for all discs and low priority
> but weekly on a fix day and hour.
>
>
> regards
> Huib
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> schreef in bericht
> news:%...
>> Leave the defrag alone, its doing just fine in Vista, it runs at all time
>> in the background as a low priority process keeping your Windows Vista
>> system in tip top shape. Its pretty cool stuff.
>> http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...g-is-cool.aspx
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "roger" <> wrote in message
>> news:C16C00EF-18D6-406E-812E-...
>>> The "scheduled defragmentation " feature in my Vista does not appear to
>>> work.
>>> In the task window I select the time/date. When I go to the status
>>> window I
>>> note that the "Next scheduled run" line, the correct time/date is
>>> indicated.
>>> Once I close out of it, the "Next scheduled run" line switches to
>>> "never",
>>> even though the scheduled defragmentation is enabled. It will not defrag
>>> automatically, either. It will go for days and the only defrag that ever
>>> happens is when I defrag manually. HP techs don't know how to help the
>>> problem and MS would be glad to help for a hefty charge of $69. Anybody
>>> else
>>> experience this defrag problem, or better yet, have a solution?
>>
>>
>

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
> But you have to understand, its being done for you automatically, in
> previous versions of Windows, did had to be done manually and usually
> once in a blue moon. I can't even tell when last I started a defrag
> on my XP machine, but Vista is doing it for me.

How do you know it is being done for you? Is there a way to tell if it is in
need of defragging? Or are we just to assume that it is all taken care of?

Hi,

I've been hunting for information on our new Vista defrag, and have come up
lacking. (I did find some at MS)
If you want to see the schedule event, look in... wait for it ...the task
scheduler.
I turned mine off.

The defrag utility has an analysis that gives about as much information as
the defrag - very little.
I'm sure MS will be prodded into more cosmetic information as the tide of
complaints comes in.
I'm looking forward to SP1, sort of.

IMHO, you were smart to do the old defrag 'once in a blue moon'. It's hard
on your hard drive.
I've seen tons of people do that defrag regularly, and a large percentage of
those people had hard drive crashes.

MS says the low priority and background execution of defrag won't affect
your regular use of the system.
I guess I only imagine the improvement, or I'm not a normal user. -could be
both.

"RA" <> wrote in message
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> Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
>> But you have to understand, its being done for you automatically, in
>> previous versions of Windows, did had to be done manually and usually
>> once in a blue moon. I can't even tell when last I started a defrag
>> on my XP machine, but Vista is doing it for me.
>
> How do you know it is being done for you? Is there a way to tell if it is
> in need of defragging? Or are we just to assume that it is all taken care
> of?
>

If you want full control over all the defrag settings and modes etc,
then there is no option but to go with a third party defragger such as
Diskeeper. Vista's defrag is quite innovative, and a departure from the
XP days, but sadly, lacking in some areas. If you can live with those
limitations then, Vista's defrag does the job reasonably well.


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Ralph;3437529 Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've seen tons of people do that defrag regularly, and a large
> percentage of
> those people had hard drive crashes.

Umm...how did you gather this data?

People have hard drive crashes because of other reasons -poor quality
drives in the first place (Maxtors anyone?!) , improper installation
and/or maintenance, normal wear/tear/ageing of drives, and often just
being on the wrong end of a statistical drive failure. If the hard
drive and/or file system is faulty to begin with, then defrag, like any
drive operation, may push it over the edge. It's never a bad idea to run
chkdsk/f before a defrag. I suspect most people who had hard drive
'crashes' are suffering from file system corruption and not actual
drive damage.

Otherwise, modern harddrives are built well enough to take the weekly
(or even daily!) defrag. It's no more stressful on the drive than
downloading a large Bit torrent or other P2P file, or running an
anti-virus scan. Another point to note is that a regular defrag means
that the drive is already well defragmented in the first place after
the first defrag, and subsequent defrags will finish much quicker and
result in lesser work for the drive.

That said, defragging an external USB/FW drive is not necessarily a
good idea, since these things are very poorly ventilated most of the
time, and run quite hot. This may indeed cause problems to the drive.

Solid state drives will probably reduce many of the drawbacks of
spinning platter drives once they become more popular.


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Ralph wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been hunting for information on our new Vista defrag, and have
> come up lacking. (I did find some at MS)
> If you want to see the schedule event, look in... wait for it ...the
> task scheduler.
> I turned mine off.
>
> The defrag utility has an analysis that gives about as much
> information as the defrag - very little.
> I'm sure MS will be prodded into more cosmetic information as the
> tide of complaints comes in.
> I'm looking forward to SP1, sort of.
>
> IMHO, you were smart to do the old defrag 'once in a blue moon'. It's hard
> on your hard drive.
> I've seen tons of people do that defrag regularly, and a large
> percentage of those people had hard drive crashes.
>
> MS says the low priority and background execution of defrag won't
> affect your regular use of the system.
> I guess I only imagine the improvement, or I'm not a normal user.
> -could be both.

I have had boxes where hardly any defragging was done and boxes where it was
done quite often and regularly in XP and other OSs and no crashes happened
in either instance. I have seen a couple of cases where defragging actually
helped the performance of a system.
My question isn't about whether or not to defrag, I just want to know how
can you tell if it needs it or not.