I see Microsoft is phasing out Windows Update

If Microsoft thinks I am going to install the latest version of Windows Installer to use their Update site all I can is, "T'was nice knowing you." I am not going to touch that contraption for at least a year in which time ya'll can say, "Yes I'm a Guiniea Pig. A Guniea Pig."

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George Hester
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:13:30 -0400, "George Hester" <> wrote:

>If Microsoft thinks I am going to install the latest version of Windows Installer to use their Update site all I can is, "T'was nice knowing you." I am not going to touch that contraption for at least a year in which time ya'll can say, "Yes I'm a Guiniea Pig. A Guniea Pig."

George,
Computers are too deep for you. Maybe something simpler... http://www.gameboy.com/

Also, could you please alter the length of your line wrap for posting to newsgroups (76 - 80 is
best).
From OE, click Tools, Options, Send, News sending format, Plain text settings, "Automatically
wrap text at [78] characters".

"George Hester" <> wrote in:

> If Microsoft thinks I am going to install the latest version of Windows
> Installer to use their Update site all I can is, "T'was nice knowing
> you." I am not going to touch that contraption for at least a year in
> which time ya'll can say, "Yes I'm a Guiniea Pig. A Guniea Pig."

OK, did you have a question or were you just venting? If you have a
question, ask. If you're just venting I hope you feel better now...

I'm sure you know that you can download updates from the Microsoft website
directly w/o going through Windows Update so you can still install any fixes
that come along.



--
David R. Norton MVP
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:13:30 -0400, "George Hester"
<> wrote:

>If Microsoft thinks I am going to install the latest version of Windows Installer to use their Update site all I can is, "T'was nice knowing you." I am not going to touch that contraption for at least a year in which time ya'll can say, "Yes I'm a Guiniea Pig. A Guniea Pig."

Use Linux then - that will keep you amused for months.

or

Download you critical updates here and install yourself if M$ is too
complicated.

http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/index.html

Jonah

David R. Norton MVP wrote:

> "George Hester" <> wrote in:
>
>
>>If Microsoft thinks I am going to install the latest version of Windows
>>Installer to use their Update site all I can is, "T'was nice knowing
>>you." I am not going to touch that contraption for at least a year in
>>which time ya'll can say, "Yes I'm a Guiniea Pig. A Guniea Pig."
>
>
> OK, did you have a question or were you just venting? If you have a
> question, ask. If you're just venting I hope you feel better now...
>
> I'm sure you know that you can download updates from the Microsoft website
> directly w/o going through Windows Update so you can still install any fixes
> that come along.

George, others and myself have been around for some time but
the current set up at the Windowsupdate V6 site really sucks.
There may be some truth to what he writes. After installing
all of the updates, including upgrading from Version 5 to
Version 6, and getting the machines certified/validated, I am
running into similar problems described by Ghostrider some
days ago for Windows 2000 machines. Sure, manually updating by
downloading from the Microsoft download site works, but this
is really defeating the purpose of Windowsupdate...right? (A
solution was to re-install IE5.5, which cannot use Version 6,
but this only validates George's statement.)

jonah wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:13:30 -0400, "George Hester"
> <> wrote:
>
>
>>If Microsoft thinks I am going to install the latest version of Windows Installer to use their Update site all I can is, "T'was nice knowing you." I am not going to touch that contraption for at least a year in which time ya'll can say, "Yes I'm a Guiniea Pig. A Guniea Pig."
>
>
> Use Linux then - that will keep you amused for months.
>
> or
>
> Download you critical updates here and install yourself if M$ is too
> complicated.
>
> http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/index.html
>
> Jonah

The point that is being driven seems to be the continual
half-baked solutions and remedies that are being contrived.
Things had worked successfully in the past are being killed
by "new and improved" and other self-serving MS initiatives.
As a System Administrator, I can always download and do my
own rollouts but Microsoft would really do me a service and
help me if Windows updates are installed off the Internet at
the client machines. But if I want to amuse myself or leave
Windows, I am not hesitant to recommend using Linux or even
reverting to Unix. But this is not the right direction for
Microsoft and I have given too many years at supporting Windows.

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 11:54:56 -0700, Mistoffolees <> wrote:

>
>jonah wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:13:30 -0400, "George Hester"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If Microsoft thinks I am going to install the latest version of Windows Installer to use their Update site all I can is, "T'was nice knowing you." I am not going to touch that contraption for at least a year in which time ya'll can say, "Yes I'm a Guiniea Pig. A Guniea Pig."
>>
>>
>> Use Linux then - that will keep you amused for months.
>>
>> or
>>
>> Download you critical updates here and install yourself if M$ is too
>> complicated.
>>
>> http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/index.html
>>
>> Jonah
>
>The point that is being driven seems to be the continual
>half-baked solutions and remedies that are being contrived.
>Things had worked successfully in the past are being killed
>by "new and improved" and other self-serving MS initiatives.
>As a System Administrator, I can always download and do my
>own rollouts but Microsoft would really do me a service and
>help me if Windows updates are installed off the Internet at
>the client machines. But if I want to amuse myself or leave
>Windows, I am not hesitant to recommend using Linux or even
>reverting to Unix. But this is not the right direction for
>Microsoft and I have given too many years at supporting Windows.

That's bullshit. The exact same vulnerabilities exist in every other operating system.
The problem is that Microsoft is the most popular OS and it's more profitable to find exploits
in 10's of millions of computers running it, than finding exploits in an OS that just a few 100k
of people are using.

Actually, MS is doing an admirable job of patching these vulnerabilities, but at a cost of
convenience, ease of use, user friendliness, and versitility.

Also, "new and improved" is done for those assholes out there using a computer to do stupid ****
like play games, when they can't find their own ass with both hands. The more you make a product
do, the worse it becomes at each task.

What Mr. Norton stated is NOT correct. You will see in this forum and others
that the new Microsoft Validation tool is flawed and has been incorrectly
identifing genuine windows software as "invalid" or having software keys "not
issued by Microsoft". If you try to manually download updates without going
through the Microsoft update site you still must endure the flawed validation
tool.

"Hassan" wrote:

>
>
> "Mistoffolees" wrote:
>
> >
> > jonah wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:13:30 -0400, "George Hester"
> > > <> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>If Microsoft thinks I am going to install the latest version of Windows Installer to use their Update site all I can is, "T'was nice knowing you." I am not going to touch that contraption for at least a year in which time ya'll can say, "Yes I'm a Guiniea Pig. A Guniea Pig."
> > >
> > >
> > > Use Linux then - that will keep you amused for months.
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > Download you critical updates here and install yourself if M$ is too
> > > complicated.
> > >
> > > http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/index.html
> > >
> > > Jonah
> >
> > The point that is being driven seems to be the continual
> > half-baked solutions and remedies that are being contrived.
> > Things had worked successfully in the past are being killed
> > by "new and improved" and other self-serving MS initiatives.
> > As a System Administrator, I can always download and do my
> > own rollouts but Microsoft would really do me a service and
> > help me if Windows updates are installed off the Internet at
> > the client machines. But if I want to amuse myself or leave
> > Windows, I am not hesitant to recommend using Linux or even
> > reverting to Unix. But this is not the right direction for
> > Microsoft and I have given too many years at supporting Windows.
> >
> >

"George Hester" <> wrote in message
news:u%...
If Microsoft thinks I am going to install the latest version of Windows
Installer to use their Update site all I can is, "T'was nice knowing you."
I am not going to touch that contraption for at least a year in which time
ya'll can say, "Yes I'm a Guiniea Pig. A Guniea Pig."

....and no way for us fools to Uninstall it either.

*sigh*