Serious Vista Problems

Please help if you can. Windows Task Manager doesn't work. It locks up when
trying to "end task" on a program that's "not responding." How do I get it
to work and end or shut the program down instead of locking up itself?

Also, with all the W95 like lock-ups etc we tried a "System Restore" and
that doesn't work either. We can't restore the system - it fails. What on
earth are we facing once we start installing our software?

news.microsoft.com wrote:
> Please help if you can. Windows Task Manager doesn't work. It locks up
> when trying to "end task" on a program that's "not responding." How do
> I get it to work and end or shut the program down instead of locking up
> itself?
>

You can use Process Explorer to kill the task if Task Manager can't do it.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...s/default.aspx

> Also, with all the W95 like lock-ups etc we tried a "System Restore" and
> that doesn't work either. We can't restore the system - it fails. What
> on earth are we facing once we start installing our software?

I had to do the Restore 3 times consecutively about a month ago, because
a Windows Update hosed functionality, and I wanted the new functionality.

Each time I did the restore, it went for a while and said it failed. But
it did work. Well, it removed the changes made by the update and the
system was restored to a state that was 3 weeks prior to the the
changes. I gave up on that update and just went without it.

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:30:07 -0500, "news.microsoft.com"
<> wrote:

>Please help if you can. Windows Task Manager doesn't work. It locks up when
>trying to "end task" on a program that's "not responding." How do I get it
>to work and end or shut the program down instead of locking up itself?
>
>Also, with all the W95 like lock-ups etc we tried a "System Restore" and
>that doesn't work either. We can't restore the system - it fails. What on
>earth are we facing once we start installing our software?

Is this a totally new installation, or is it a new computer?

More info is needed

"Paul Montgumdrop" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> news.microsoft.com wrote:
>> Please help if you can. Windows Task Manager doesn't work. It locks up
>> when trying to "end task" on a program that's "not responding." How do I
>> get it to work and end or shut the program down instead of locking up
>> itself?
>>
>
> You can use Process Explorer to kill the task if Task Manager can't do it.
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...s/default.aspx

I just download this but it looks like more than I'm capable of
understanding. We'll see.

>
>> Also, with all the W95 like lock-ups etc we tried a "System Restore" and
>> that doesn't work either. We can't restore the system - it fails. What
>> on earth are we facing once we start installing our software?
>
> I had to do the Restore 3 times consecutively about a month ago, because a
> Windows Update hosed functionality, and I wanted the new functionality.
>
> Each time I did the restore, it went for a while and said it failed. But
> it did work.

It looks like the last restore did work. I see changes but can't be sure
because right out of the box there were disappointing issues with Vista.

.. Well, it removed the changes made by the update and the
> system was restored to a state that was 3 weeks prior to the the changes.
> I gave up on that update and just went without it.
>
How do you allow some updates and not others? They download and install
automatically.


>

"Paul Montgomery" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:30:07 -0500, "news.microsoft.com"
> <> wrote:
>
>>Please help if you can. Windows Task Manager doesn't work. It locks up
>>when
>>trying to "end task" on a program that's "not responding." How do I get
>>it
>>to work and end or shut the program down instead of locking up itself?
>>
>>Also, with all the W95 like lock-ups etc we tried a "System Restore" and
>>that doesn't work either. We can't restore the system - it fails. What
>>on
>>earth are we facing once we start installing our software?
>
> Is this a totally new installation, or is it a new computer?
>
> More info is needed

This is a new HP desktop w/Vista Home Premium. We've only added an
anti-virus and Zone Alarm so far, plus PhotoFiltre.

"Paul Montgomery" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:30:07 -0500, "news.microsoft.com"
> <> wrote:
>
>>Please help if you can. Windows Task Manager doesn't work. It locks up
>>when
>>trying to "end task" on a program that's "not responding." How do I get
>>it
>>to work and end or shut the program down instead of locking up itself?
>>
>>Also, with all the W95 like lock-ups etc we tried a "System Restore" and
>>that doesn't work either. We can't restore the system - it fails. What
>>on
>>earth are we facing once we start installing our software?
>
> Is this a totally new installation, or is it a new computer?
>
> More info is needed

Also this new newsgroup format is horrible. I can't turn this tread RED so I
can find it easily. That choice is gone from above and if I click on the
"glasses" icon, other threads above this one turn red - not this one.

If This Is A Completely Brand New Computer, Then Return It 2 HP Or The
Retail Store That You Purchased It From If Possible, Just FYI. Then Buy A
OEM Windows XP Down Grade Computer From http://www.dell.com. Dell Still
Sells OEM Windows XP Service Pack 2 As A Down Grade From A OEM Microsoft
Windows Vista Ultimate Edition Service Pack One License On Their Website,
Also Just FYI.

"news.microsoft.com" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Please help if you can. Windows Task Manager doesn't work. It locks up
> when trying to "end task" on a program that's "not responding." How do I
> get it to work and end or shut the program down instead of locking up
> itself?
>
> Also, with all the W95 like lock-ups etc we tried a "System Restore" and
> that doesn't work either. We can't restore the system - it fails. What
> on earth are we facing once we start installing our software?

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:43:47 -0500, "G.Katts" <> wrote:

>
>"Paul Montgomery" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:30:07 -0500, "news.microsoft.com"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>Please help if you can. Windows Task Manager doesn't work. It locks up
>>>when
>>>trying to "end task" on a program that's "not responding." How do I get
>>>it
>>>to work and end or shut the program down instead of locking up itself?
>>>
>>>Also, with all the W95 like lock-ups etc we tried a "System Restore" and
>>>that doesn't work either. We can't restore the system - it fails. What
>>>on
>>>earth are we facing once we start installing our software?
>>
>> Is this a totally new installation, or is it a new computer?
>>
>> More info is needed
>
>This is a new HP desktop w/Vista Home Premium. We've only added an
>anti-virus and Zone Alarm so far, plus PhotoFiltre.

Most new computers come with an anti-virus already installed. Did you
check before you added your own?

Same goes for a firewall, although ZA will probably disable whatever
was running when you installed it..

It's not too late to start from scratch - recover the system to
out-of-the-box condition. If you didn't get a disc, then there will
be an option avaialbe to you on system startup. Look at the top or
bottom of your screen for the prompt telling which "F" key to hit.

If you do that, then check your problem items one by one after each
program is installed again to see which is causing the problem.

Of, course... it's under warranty, so you should go on record with HP
support if it happens again.

"Paul Montgomery" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:43:47 -0500, "G.Katts" <> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Paul Montgomery" <> wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:30:07 -0500, "news.microsoft.com"
>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Please help if you can. Windows Task Manager doesn't work. It locks up
>>>>when
>>>>trying to "end task" on a program that's "not responding." How do I get
>>>>it
>>>>to work and end or shut the program down instead of locking up itself?
>>>>
>>>>Also, with all the W95 like lock-ups etc we tried a "System Restore" and
>>>>that doesn't work either. We can't restore the system - it fails. What
>>>>on
>>>>earth are we facing once we start installing our software?
>>>
>>> Is this a totally new installation, or is it a new computer?
>>>
>>> More info is needed
>>
>>This is a new HP desktop w/Vista Home Premium. We've only added an
>>anti-virus and Zone Alarm so far, plus PhotoFiltre.
>
> Most new computers come with an anti-virus already installed. Did you
> check before you added your own?

I removed Norton. It was too invasive and too complicated. I like AVG a
lot better.

>
> Same goes for a firewall, although ZA will probably disable whatever
> was running when you installed it..

I'm familiar with ZA. It asks before allowing anything to phone home, unlike
the MS firewall.

>
> It's not too late to start from scratch - recover the system to
> out-of-the-box condition. If you didn't get a disc, then there will
> be an option avaialbe to you on system startup. Look at the top or
> bottom of your screen for the prompt telling which "F" key to hit.

It appears that although it said System Restore failed.... it did indeed
work. We both see the changes. IE7 often locks up when closing it and that
was right out of the box. Our new Laptop, with Vista Home Premium, has no
such problems. We're going away on vacation so wont be able to work on it
for a week or so.

>
> If you do that, then check your problem items one by one after each
> program is installed again to see which is causing the problem.
>
> Of, course... it's under warranty, so you should go on record with HP
> support if it happens again.

<> wrote in message
news:%23%...
> If This Is A Completely Brand New Computer, Then Return It 2 HP Or The
> Retail Store That You Purchased It From If Possible, Just FYI. Then Buy A
> OEM Windows XP Down Grade Computer From http://www.dell.com. Dell Still
> Sells OEM Windows XP Service Pack 2 As A Down Grade From A OEM Microsoft
> Windows Vista Ultimate Edition Service Pack One License On Their Website,
> Also Just FYI.

Thanks for that info. It's certainly something to consider.

>
> "news.microsoft.com" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Please help if you can. Windows Task Manager doesn't work. It locks up
>> when trying to "end task" on a program that's "not responding." How do I
>> get it to work and end or shut the program down instead of locking up
>> itself?
>>
>> Also, with all the W95 like lock-ups etc we tried a "System Restore" and
>> that doesn't work either. We can't restore the system - it fails. What
>> on earth are we facing once we start installing our software?
>