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That's actually not good news. Darn.
If Security Center is showing that Windows Firewall is Off, are you able to open Control Panel > Windows Firewall, and, after clicking on "Change settings", when the Windows Firewall Settings dialog shows up, on its General tab, turn it On? On the Advanced tab, do your Network Connections have a checkmark? Also on the Advanced tab, can you Restore Defaults? "nweissma" <> wrote in message news:3BCF022E-0FEB-4E56-AFC5-... > message is that "repository is consistent" > > "dean-dean" wrote: > >> Thanks for the definitions (od, oa); live and learn! >> I daresay that your problems with IE7 may well be attributed to real-time >> protection programs going at it all at once, not to mention that User >> Account Control may be in the mix, too. You're right, no one knows >> exactly >> how all the Anti-Malware real-time protections intersect in combination; >> since an individual is free to install as many of these programs as they >> like, who's to know the consequences of all the combinations possible >> (what >> with a multitude of registry insertions, active files on your computer, >> ActiveX controls, hosts file modification, "Anti-Spyware" that may be a >> ruse >> for adware, and on and on)? Of course, you can do what you like, but I'd >> tone it down to using one Anti-Virus program (uninstall any others), and >> have only one Anti-Malware program with real-time protection active, if >> your >> Anti-Virus program doesn't provide that option. You can use their >> on-demand >> scanning, but turn off the real-time protection capabilities of Spyware >> Terminator, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D (Tea Timer), etc. If you are using >> Avast's >> Web Shield, turn off real-time protection in Windows Defender (or at >> least >> those items that affect IE7). Or turn off Web Shield and use Defender. >> Once >> you've done that, do this to see if Security Center's Windows Firewall >> status can be fixed : >> >> Right-click Command Prompt and Run as Administrator. Type the following >> command: >> >> winmgmt /verifyrepository >> >> If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", run this >> command: >> >> winmgmt /salvagerepository >> >> The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop commands >> to >> the services causing it to fail. It might take a couple minutes for the >> services to shut down). Run the command again. You actually may have to >> run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its own. >> >> Reboot your system. >> >> In terms of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", consider this. >> The >> point of Anti-Virus programs, etc., is to keep you computer usable, >> stable, >> and safe. If you over-do the programs, you may have defeated your >> purpose. Six SFC non-repairable items is not the norm... >> >> >> "nweissma" <> wrote in message >> news:BBD93870-0FC5-429F-BB35-... >> > od = on demand - iow, scanning mode of operation >> > oa = on access - iow, real-time protection >> > >> > i have only one oa av (avast), several av scanners (i turn off avast >> > before >> > i scan to avoid conflict), several antispyware scanners (spybot s&d, >> > adaware, >> > and others), and windows defender works just fine. i have no extraneous >> > toolbars - never did. >> > >> > conflicts? how do i know whether antimalware purviews intersect? for >> > example, does real-time spybot s&d's tea timer function intersect >> > windows >> > defender? do somne of the antispyware function of spyware terminator >> > intersect with defender, or spybot s&d? how do i know - dearth >> > documentation >> > is a major problem, imo. >> > >> > sfcdetails.txt reveals 6 entries that all say the same thing: >> > >> > >> > >> > ........... CSI ........00000xxx [SR] Cannot Repair >> > >> > >> > "dean-dean" wrote: >> > >> >> You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares". >> >> What >> >> do >> >> the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender real-time >> >> protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus >> >> program >> >> correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly? >> >> >> >> Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and >> >> running, >> >> and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection, >> >> running. >> >> Too many processes in this area running in the background are going to >> >> cause >> >> conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your >> >> computer. >> >> Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting >> >> its >> >> status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your >> >> "Anti-'s". >> >> One Care is off the table; what's on the table? >> >> >> >> Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or too >> >> many >> >> 3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For >> >> starters, >> >> if >> >> you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came from >> >> your >> >> computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them. >> >> >> >> To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to understand >> >> what >> >> the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by >> >> right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator. >> >> Next, >> >> open >> >> Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start >> >> Menu\Programs\Accessories) >> >> (Run as Administrator), and type >> >> >> >> cd desktop >> >> >> >> Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type >> >> >> >> findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt >> >> >> >> Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop. >> >> Looking >> >> at >> >> entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted in >> >> that >> >> text file? >> >> >> >> >> >> "nweissma" <> wrote in message >> >> news:E5ADE5A4-4EF4-404D-8FAB-... >> >> > it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone and >> >> > with >> >> > easy >> >> > assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further probing, >> >> > that >> >> > the >> >> > source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified corrupted, >> >> > and >> >> > irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he told >> >> > me >> >> > that >> >> > i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look forward >> >> > to - >> >> > notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran >> >> > /verifyonly, >> >> > and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this >> >> > "true >> >> > font" >> >> > .ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked! >> >> > >> >> > when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was >> >> > necessarily >> >> > rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i forget >> >> > the >> >> > details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not adequately >> >> > performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od av's, >> >> > and >> >> > od >> >> > antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows firewall >> >> > operative. >> >> > >> >> > another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3 hours; >> >> > after >> >> > reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows firewall >> >> > *was >> >> > working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the >> >> > security >> >> > center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd >> >> > party >> >> > firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he >> >> > said >> >> > that >> >> > windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows >> >> > firewall >> >> > working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible >> >> > that >> >> > i >> >> > have >> >> > not had a firewall for 3 weeks. >> >> > >> >> > what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd >> >> > party >> >> > firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?) >> >> > >> >> > wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised on >> >> > the >> >> > (unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with the >> >> > Ajax >> >> > technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit >> >> > www.techarp.com >> >> > (other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page never >> >> > loads) >> >> > . >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "dean-dean" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way to >> >> >> repair >> >> >> corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted >> >> >> files >> >> >> weren't >> >> >> corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC is >> >> >> able >> >> >> to >> >> >> replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due to >> >> >> file >> >> >> corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your >> >> >> problems >> >> >> most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the >> >> >> installation >> >> >> of a >> >> >> 3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and >> >> >> possibly >> >> >> have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file >> >> >> corruption >> >> >> can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by equating >> >> >> mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut of >> >> >> possibilities. >> >> >> >> >> >> Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are >> >> >> basically >> >> >> intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding >> >> >> Windows >> >> >> Firewall? And your IE7 problems? >> >> >> >> >> >> "nweissma" <> wrote in message >> >> >> news  2A4A8DE-61E7-46F9-B296-...>> >> >> >i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files >> >> >> > >> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/936212/en-us >> >> >> > >> >> >> > this kb states: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you >> >> >> > determine >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return >> >> >> > system >> >> >> > files >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to restore >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > operating >> >> >> > system to a point in time in which you did not experience the >> >> >> > issue. >> >> >> > When >> >> >> > you >> >> >> > use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous state, >> >> >> > *** >> >> >> > programs >> >> >> > and updates that you installed are removed. ***" >> >> >> > >> >> >> > as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is so >> >> >> > obvious: >> >> >> > why >> >> >> > would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully >> >> >> > configured? >> >> >> > all i >> >> >> > want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw the >> >> >> > baby >> >> >> > out >> >> >> > with >> >> >> > the bathwater. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >> >> >> >> > cbs.txt >> >> >> > (all >> >> >> > 35 >> >> >> > MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > reason >> >> >> > that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other ie7 >> >> >> > problems, >> >> >> > is >> >> >> > due to a corruption of a file named mingliu.ttc - a windows "true >> >> >> > font" >> >> >> > file!! cbs.txt identifies this as *the only* sfc.exe /scannow >> >> >> > irrepartable >> >> >> > file!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > can this possibly be causing my windows firewall problem? and for >> >> >> > *this*, >> >> >> > i >> >> >> > am going to jeopardize my antimalware? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > so, what can vista's restore feature be used for, with a net >> >> >> > benefit? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "dean-dean" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> System Restore could be used to repair corrupted system files, >> >> >> >> but >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> would >> >> >> >> have to choose a restore point with a date when the corrupted >> >> >> >> files >> >> >> >> weren't >> >> >> >> corrupted. Knowing when the files weren't corrupted may not be >> >> >> >> easy >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> figure out. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "nweissma" <> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:C68276A8-4623-489D-BAC4-... >> >> >> >> > why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair >> >> >> >> > corrupted >> >> >> >> > files? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > --Fool On The Hill >> >> >> >> > [32-bit Vista Home Premium] >> >> >> >> > "Dean-Dean" <> wrote in >> >> >> >> > message >> >> >> >> > news:73BB1F3F-EC3A-4EC0-9863-... >> >> >> >> >> It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your >> >> >> >> >> concerns. >> >> >> >> >> Your >> >> >> >> >> post >> >> >> >> >> reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a >> >> >> >> >> sfcdetails.txt >> >> >> >> >> file, but it looks like you figured it out: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and >> >> >> >> >> find >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the >> >> >> >> >> prompt >> >> >> >> >> starts in >> >> >> >> >> C:\Users\(Your Name). Type >> >> >> >> >> |
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i don't see the tabs -general and advanced - that you are talking about (i am
using vista), but i can tell you that i cannot turn on windows, and "network connections" may be available to me when i log on as administrator (i recollect seeing it, in control panel, i think) - it is inconvenient for me to do that right now. if you send me your email, i wills end you the appropriate screenshot. my email is: i have been surfing without a firewall for three weeks because i want to avoid a firewall conflict: if i install a 3rd party firewall, and then learn that windows firewall IS working despite that it reports that it is not. "dean-dean" wrote: > That's actually not good news. Darn. > > If Security Center is showing that Windows Firewall is Off, are you able to > open Control Panel > Windows Firewall, and, after clicking on "Change > settings", when the Windows Firewall Settings dialog shows up, on its > General tab, turn it On? On the Advanced tab, do your Network Connections > have a checkmark? Also on the Advanced tab, can you Restore Defaults? > > > "nweissma" <> wrote in message > news:3BCF022E-0FEB-4E56-AFC5-... > > message is that "repository is consistent" > > > > "dean-dean" wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the definitions (od, oa); live and learn! > >> I daresay that your problems with IE7 may well be attributed to real-time > >> protection programs going at it all at once, not to mention that User > >> Account Control may be in the mix, too. You're right, no one knows > >> exactly > >> how all the Anti-Malware real-time protections intersect in combination; > >> since an individual is free to install as many of these programs as they > >> like, who's to know the consequences of all the combinations possible > >> (what > >> with a multitude of registry insertions, active files on your computer, > >> ActiveX controls, hosts file modification, "Anti-Spyware" that may be a > >> ruse > >> for adware, and on and on)? Of course, you can do what you like, but I'd > >> tone it down to using one Anti-Virus program (uninstall any others), and > >> have only one Anti-Malware program with real-time protection active, if > >> your > >> Anti-Virus program doesn't provide that option. You can use their > >> on-demand > >> scanning, but turn off the real-time protection capabilities of Spyware > >> Terminator, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D (Tea Timer), etc. If you are using > >> Avast's > >> Web Shield, turn off real-time protection in Windows Defender (or at > >> least > >> those items that affect IE7). Or turn off Web Shield and use Defender. > >> Once > >> you've done that, do this to see if Security Center's Windows Firewall > >> status can be fixed : > >> > >> Right-click Command Prompt and Run as Administrator. Type the following > >> command: > >> > >> winmgmt /verifyrepository > >> > >> If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", run this > >> command: > >> > >> winmgmt /salvagerepository > >> > >> The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop commands > >> to > >> the services causing it to fail. It might take a couple minutes for the > >> services to shut down). Run the command again. You actually may have to > >> run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its own. > >> > >> Reboot your system. > >> > >> In terms of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", consider this. > >> The > >> point of Anti-Virus programs, etc., is to keep you computer usable, > >> stable, > >> and safe. If you over-do the programs, you may have defeated your > >> purpose. Six SFC non-repairable items is not the norm... > >> > >> > >> "nweissma" <> wrote in message > >> news:BBD93870-0FC5-429F-BB35-... > >> > od = on demand - iow, scanning mode of operation > >> > oa = on access - iow, real-time protection > >> > > >> > i have only one oa av (avast), several av scanners (i turn off avast > >> > before > >> > i scan to avoid conflict), several antispyware scanners (spybot s&d, > >> > adaware, > >> > and others), and windows defender works just fine. i have no extraneous > >> > toolbars - never did. > >> > > >> > conflicts? how do i know whether antimalware purviews intersect? for > >> > example, does real-time spybot s&d's tea timer function intersect > >> > windows > >> > defender? do somne of the antispyware function of spyware terminator > >> > intersect with defender, or spybot s&d? how do i know - dearth > >> > documentation > >> > is a major problem, imo. > >> > > >> > sfcdetails.txt reveals 6 entries that all say the same thing: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ........... CSI ........00000xxx [SR] Cannot Repair > >> > > >> > > >> > "dean-dean" wrote: > >> > > >> >> You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares". > >> >> What > >> >> do > >> >> the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender real-time > >> >> protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus > >> >> program > >> >> correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly? > >> >> > >> >> Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and > >> >> running, > >> >> and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection, > >> >> running. > >> >> Too many processes in this area running in the background are going to > >> >> cause > >> >> conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your > >> >> computer. > >> >> Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting > >> >> its > >> >> status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your > >> >> "Anti-'s". > >> >> One Care is off the table; what's on the table? > >> >> > >> >> Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or too > >> >> many > >> >> 3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For > >> >> starters, > >> >> if > >> >> you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came from > >> >> your > >> >> computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them. > >> >> > >> >> To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to understand > >> >> what > >> >> the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by > >> >> right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator. > >> >> Next, > >> >> open > >> >> Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start > >> >> Menu\Programs\Accessories) > >> >> (Run as Administrator), and type > >> >> > >> >> cd desktop > >> >> > >> >> Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type > >> >> > >> >> findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt > >> >> > >> >> Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop. > >> >> Looking > >> >> at > >> >> entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted in > >> >> that > >> >> text file? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "nweissma" <> wrote in message > >> >> news:E5ADE5A4-4EF4-404D-8FAB-... > >> >> > it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone and > >> >> > with > >> >> > easy > >> >> > assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further probing, > >> >> > that > >> >> > the > >> >> > source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified corrupted, > >> >> > and > >> >> > irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he told > >> >> > me > >> >> > that > >> >> > i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look forward > >> >> > to - > >> >> > notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran > >> >> > /verifyonly, > >> >> > and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this > >> >> > "true > >> >> > font" > >> >> > .ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked! > >> >> > > >> >> > when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was > >> >> > necessarily > >> >> > rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i forget > >> >> > the > >> >> > details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not adequately > >> >> > performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od av's, > >> >> > and > >> >> > od > >> >> > antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows firewall > >> >> > operative. > >> >> > > >> >> > another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3 hours; > >> >> > after > >> >> > reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows firewall > >> >> > *was > >> >> > working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the > >> >> > security > >> >> > center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd > >> >> > party > >> >> > firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he > >> >> > said > >> >> > that > >> >> > windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows > >> >> > firewall > >> >> > working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible > >> >> > that > >> >> > i > >> >> > have > >> >> > not had a firewall for 3 weeks. > >> >> > > >> >> > what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd > >> >> > party > >> >> > firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?) > >> >> > > >> >> > wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised on > >> >> > the > >> >> > (unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with the > >> >> > Ajax > >> >> > technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit > >> >> > www.techarp.com > >> >> > (other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page never > >> >> > loads) > >> >> > . > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "dean-dean" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way to > >> >> >> repair > >> >> >> corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted > >> >> >> files > >> >> >> weren't > >> >> >> corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC is > >> >> >> able > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due to > >> >> >> file > >> >> >> corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your > >> >> >> problems > >> >> >> most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the > >> >> >> installation > >> >> >> of a > >> >> >> 3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and > >> >> >> possibly > >> >> >> have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file > >> >> >> corruption > >> >> >> can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by equating > >> >> >> mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut of > >> >> >> possibilities. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are > >> >> >> basically > >> >> >> intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding > >> >> >> Windows > >> >> >> Firewall? And your IE7 problems? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "nweissma" <> wrote in message > >> >> >> news 2A4A8DE-61E7-46F9-B296-...> >> >> >> >i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/936212/en-us > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > this kb states: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you > >> >> >> > determine > >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> > issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return > >> >> >> > system > >> >> >> > files > >> >> >> > and > >> >> >> > settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to restore > >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> > operating > >> >> >> > system to a point in time in which you did not experience the > >> >> >> > issue. > >> >> >> > When > >> >> >> > you > >> >> >> > use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous state, > >> >> >> > *** > >> >> >> > programs > >> >> >> > and updates that you installed are removed. ***" > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is so > >> >> >> > obvious: > >> >> >> > why > >> >> >> > would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully > >> >> >> > configured? > >> >> >> > all i > >> >> >> > want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw the > >> >> >> > baby > >> >> >> > out > >> >> >> > with > >> >> >> > the bathwater. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >> > >> >> >> > cbs.txt > >> >> >> > (all > >> >> >> > 35 > >> >> >> > MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that > >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> > reason > >> >> >> > that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other ie7 |
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The Windows Fire Wall Settings window has three tabs, named General,
Exceptions, and Advanced. It is actually this file: C:\Windows\System32\FirewallSettings.exe Do you have that file on your computer? Opening that file (right-click and Run as Administrator) is the same as clicking on "Change settings" in Control Panel > Windows Firewall (not to be confused with Control Panel > Security Center). The "Network Connections" I was referring to is a setting on the Advanced tab, which you select to have firewalled (e.g., your LAN connection or your Wireless Network connection). By default, they are firewalled. I understand that you're probably none too happy with me regarding my take on too many Anti-Malware programs installed on Vista, but you might want to take a look at a recent post by Richard Urban concerning Spybot S & D, under the subject "KB931768 problem - ***solved***" found in microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_mainten ance: http://www.microsoft.com/communities...9-7a32f6284e52 This blog, too, is very interesting (take note of the line in the article "...the IE rendering engine will check the registry for entries in IE's Restricted Sites zone **every time you type a character***." Not that that applies to your situation, per se, but it's one symptom of the over-all issue of IE7 performance problems, and by extension, Vista problems): http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks...13/901386.aspx "nweissma" <> wrote in message news:27D51D48-DE73-474C-B76C-... >i don't see the tabs -general and advanced - that you are talking about (i >am > using vista), but i can tell you that i cannot turn on windows, and > "network > connections" may be available to me when i log on as administrator (i > recollect seeing it, in control panel, i think) - it is inconvenient for > me > to do that right now. if you send me your email, i wills end you the > appropriate screenshot. my email is: > > i have been surfing without a firewall for three weeks because i want to > avoid a firewall conflict: if i install a 3rd party firewall, and then > learn > that windows firewall IS working despite that it reports that it is not. > > "dean-dean" wrote: > >> That's actually not good news. Darn. >> >> If Security Center is showing that Windows Firewall is Off, are you able >> to >> open Control Panel > Windows Firewall, and, after clicking on "Change >> settings", when the Windows Firewall Settings dialog shows up, on its >> General tab, turn it On? On the Advanced tab, do your Network >> Connections >> have a checkmark? Also on the Advanced tab, can you Restore Defaults? >> >> >> "nweissma" <> wrote in message >> news:3BCF022E-0FEB-4E56-AFC5-... >> > message is that "repository is consistent" >> > >> > "dean-dean" wrote: >> > >> >> Thanks for the definitions (od, oa); live and learn! >> >> I daresay that your problems with IE7 may well be attributed to >> >> real-time >> >> protection programs going at it all at once, not to mention that User >> >> Account Control may be in the mix, too. You're right, no one knows >> >> exactly >> >> how all the Anti-Malware real-time protections intersect in >> >> combination; >> >> since an individual is free to install as many of these programs as >> >> they >> >> like, who's to know the consequences of all the combinations possible >> >> (what >> >> with a multitude of registry insertions, active files on your >> >> computer, >> >> ActiveX controls, hosts file modification, "Anti-Spyware" that may be >> >> a >> >> ruse >> >> for adware, and on and on)? Of course, you can do what you like, but >> >> I'd >> >> tone it down to using one Anti-Virus program (uninstall any others), >> >> and >> >> have only one Anti-Malware program with real-time protection active, >> >> if >> >> your >> >> Anti-Virus program doesn't provide that option. You can use their >> >> on-demand >> >> scanning, but turn off the real-time protection capabilities of >> >> Spyware >> >> Terminator, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D (Tea Timer), etc. If you are using >> >> Avast's >> >> Web Shield, turn off real-time protection in Windows Defender (or at >> >> least >> >> those items that affect IE7). Or turn off Web Shield and use Defender. >> >> Once >> >> you've done that, do this to see if Security Center's Windows Firewall >> >> status can be fixed : >> >> >> >> Right-click Command Prompt and Run as Administrator. Type the >> >> following >> >> command: >> >> >> >> winmgmt /verifyrepository >> >> >> >> If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", run this >> >> command: >> >> >> >> winmgmt /salvagerepository >> >> >> >> The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop >> >> commands >> >> to >> >> the services causing it to fail. It might take a couple minutes for >> >> the >> >> services to shut down). Run the command again. You actually may have >> >> to >> >> run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its own. >> >> >> >> Reboot your system. >> >> >> >> In terms of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", consider this. >> >> The >> >> point of Anti-Virus programs, etc., is to keep you computer usable, >> >> stable, >> >> and safe. If you over-do the programs, you may have defeated your >> >> purpose. Six SFC non-repairable items is not the norm... >> >> >> >> >> >> "nweissma" <> wrote in message >> >> news:BBD93870-0FC5-429F-BB35-... >> >> > od = on demand - iow, scanning mode of operation >> >> > oa = on access - iow, real-time protection >> >> > >> >> > i have only one oa av (avast), several av scanners (i turn off avast >> >> > before >> >> > i scan to avoid conflict), several antispyware scanners (spybot s&d, >> >> > adaware, >> >> > and others), and windows defender works just fine. i have no >> >> > extraneous >> >> > toolbars - never did. >> >> > >> >> > conflicts? how do i know whether antimalware purviews intersect? for >> >> > example, does real-time spybot s&d's tea timer function intersect >> >> > windows >> >> > defender? do somne of the antispyware function of spyware terminator >> >> > intersect with defender, or spybot s&d? how do i know - dearth >> >> > documentation >> >> > is a major problem, imo. >> >> > >> >> > sfcdetails.txt reveals 6 entries that all say the same thing: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ........... CSI ........00000xxx [SR] Cannot Repair >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "dean-dean" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares". >> >> >> What >> >> >> do >> >> >> the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender >> >> >> real-time >> >> >> protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus >> >> >> program >> >> >> correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly? >> >> >> >> >> >> Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and >> >> >> running, >> >> >> and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection, >> >> >> running. >> >> >> Too many processes in this area running in the background are going >> >> >> to >> >> >> cause >> >> >> conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your >> >> >> computer. >> >> >> Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting >> >> >> its >> >> >> status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your >> >> >> "Anti-'s". >> >> >> One Care is off the table; what's on the table? >> >> >> >> >> >> Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or >> >> >> too >> >> >> many >> >> >> 3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For >> >> >> starters, >> >> >> if >> >> >> you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came >> >> >> from >> >> >> your >> >> >> computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them. >> >> >> >> >> >> To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to >> >> >> understand >> >> >> what >> >> >> the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by >> >> >> right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator. >> >> >> Next, >> >> >> open >> >> >> Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start >> >> >> Menu\Programs\Accessories) >> >> >> (Run as Administrator), and type >> >> >> >> >> >> cd desktop >> >> >> >> >> >> Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type >> >> >> >> >> >> findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt >> >> >> >> >> >> Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop. >> >> >> Looking >> >> >> at >> >> >> entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted >> >> >> in >> >> >> that >> >> >> text file? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "nweissma" <> wrote in message >> >> >> news:E5ADE5A4-4EF4-404D-8FAB-... >> >> >> > it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > with >> >> >> > easy >> >> >> > assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further >> >> >> > probing, >> >> >> > that >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified >> >> >> > corrupted, >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he >> >> >> > told >> >> >> > me >> >> >> > that >> >> >> > i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look >> >> >> > forward >> >> >> > to - >> >> >> > notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran >> >> >> > /verifyonly, >> >> >> > and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this >> >> >> > "true >> >> >> > font" >> >> >> > .ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was >> >> >> > necessarily >> >> >> > rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i >> >> >> > forget >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not >> >> >> > adequately >> >> >> > performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od >> >> >> > av's, >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > od >> >> >> > antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows >> >> >> > firewall >> >> >> > operative. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3 >> >> >> > hours; >> >> >> > after >> >> >> > reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows >> >> >> > firewall >> >> >> > *was >> >> >> > working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the >> >> >> > security >> >> >> > center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd >> >> >> > party >> >> >> > firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he >> >> >> > said >> >> >> > that >> >> >> > windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows >> >> >> > firewall >> >> >> > working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible >> >> >> > that >> >> >> > i >> >> >> > have >> >> >> > not had a firewall for 3 weeks. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd >> >> >> > party >> >> >> > firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised >> >> >> > on >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > (unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > Ajax >> >> >> > technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit >> >> >> > www.techarp.com >> >> >> > (other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page >> >> >> > never >> >> >> > loads) >> >> >> > . >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "dean-dean" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> repair >> >> >> >> corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted >> >> >> >> files >> >> >> >> weren't >> >> >> >> corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> able >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> file >> >> >> >> corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your >> >> >> >> problems >> >> >> >> most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the >> >> >> >> installation >> >> >> >> of a >> >> >> >> 3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and >> >> >> >> possibly >> >> >> >> have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file >> >> >> >> corruption >> >> >> >> can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by >> >> >> >> equating >> >> >> >> mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> possibilities. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are >> >> >> >> basically >> >> >> >> intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding >> >> >> >> Windows >> >> >> >> Firewall? And your IE7 problems? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "nweissma" <> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news 2A4A8DE-61E7-46F9-B296-...>> >> >> >> >i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/936212/en-us >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > this kb states: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you >> >> >> >> > determine >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return >> >> >> >> > system >> >> >> >> > files >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> > settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to >> >> >> >> > restore >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > operating >> >> >> >> > system to a point in time in which you did not experience the >> >> >> >> > issue. >> >> >> >> > When >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >> > use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous >> >> >> >> > state, >> >> >> >> > *** >> >> >> >> > programs >> >> >> >> > and updates that you installed are removed. ***" >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is >> >> >> >> > so >> >> >> >> > obvious: >> >> >> >> > why >> >> >> >> > would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully >> >> >> >> > configured? >> >> >> >> > all i >> >> >> >> > want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > baby >> >> >> >> > out >> >> >> >> > with >> >> >> >> > the bathwater. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >> >> >> >> >> > cbs.txt >> >> >> >> > (all >> >> >> >> > 35 >> >> >> >> > MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > reason >> >> >> >> > that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other >> >> >> >> > ie7 |
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