Should I Kill It (Vista) ???

Hello...

Having (so far) two major problems w/ Vista (aside from all that permissions
crapiola):

1) I cannot install Microsoft Streets & Trips

2) When I attempt to install Adobe Illustrator (CS3), I get a message that
reads:

>>Windows Vista can only install one Adobe product at a time...please
>>complete the other installation before attempting to install Illustrator
>>CS3<<

I've done the Windows Installer Clean-Up utility thing (& there are *no*
other Adobe apps running during the installation attempt).

So...

Can these issues be fixed ?

If not...can I still obtain XP Pro (& have it be official; & operable) ?

Thanks,


mark4man
Vista Home Premium
Compaq Presario SR5610F


Note: [a little background...I had previously 'one' PC...as a digital audio
workstation in my recording/mastering studio. It was also connected to the
internet; & I wound up w/ a nasty back-door virus. Dedicated that machine
(on the advice of its mfg.: ADK Pro Audio) as my studio's DAW; & went out &
got the Compaq for the studio's office (& for graphics; the internet,
etc.)...it came w/ Vista...which I sort-of don't like all that well.
Well...I do...I can learn...but not w/o program compatibility w/ the above.]


UPDATE 1: Tried a clean boot reinstall (as dictated by MS Support
site)...that didn't work. Problem is...in the control panel applet under
add/remove programs...a listing for Adobe Illustrator CS3 is appearing...&
WILL NOT uninstall. I've deleted every program file folder & registry entry
related to Illustrator I could find...but it still will not delete.

I also can't use the Adobe *Clean Script* thing...as that deletes ALL CS3
programs at level 1 (save for Reader). I've got Photoshop CS3 on my
machine...as donated to me by my ex-employer. I no longer work for that
firm; & do not want to lose Photoshop. I could move all my Photoshop program
files to an external HD backup...but I do not know how to then back up my
registry (relative to only Photoshop) in order to restore my authorizations
afterward.


UPDATE2: Downloaded & ran CCleaner...attempting to fully uninstall
Illustrator CS3 (as advised by an mvp as the best cleaner/registry editor
utility out there)...which it would not do.

So...(in CCleaner)...first I *renamed* the program entry (from within
CCleaner) & then ran it's registry cleaner (in which case it found tons of
Illustrator entries...which I deleted). Then I attempted to install
Illustrator.

At first, there was no error message as originally stated (cannot install
two Adobe products, ad nauseam)...& it actually started...but it didn't
install in the typical way...the DVD-ROM just ran & ran...& all it did was
to place an Adobe Illustrator CS3 entry back in the damn add/remove programs
applet. But there were no windows that came up indicating an installation in
progress, or anything like that...no program files installed...no program
listing under Start > Programs...nothing but the program listed in
add/remove programs.

So then I *deleted* the program entry from within CCleaner...& the exact
same thing happened...which is, for all intents & purposes...some sort of
partial installation.

Not sure which direction to turn, here.

"Can these issues be fixed ?" That would be a question for Adobe support.

"can I still obtain XP Pro" Sure, it's still available for sale here and
there, if you buy it it will be "legal", whether it will work on your system
or not is a different story.

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"mark4man" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello...
>
> Having (so far) two major problems w/ Vista (aside from all that
> permissions crapiola):
>
> 1) I cannot install Microsoft Streets & Trips
>
> 2) When I attempt to install Adobe Illustrator (CS3), I get a message that
> reads:
>
>>>Windows Vista can only install one Adobe product at a time...please
>>>complete the other installation before attempting to install Illustrator
>>>CS3<<
>
> I've done the Windows Installer Clean-Up utility thing (& there are *no*
> other Adobe apps running during the installation attempt).
>
> So...
>
> Can these issues be fixed ?
>
> If not...can I still obtain XP Pro (& have it be official; & operable) ?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> mark4man
> Vista Home Premium
> Compaq Presario SR5610F
>
>
> Note: [a little background...I had previously 'one' PC...as a digital
> audio workstation in my recording/mastering studio. It was also connected
> to the internet; & I wound up w/ a nasty back-door virus. Dedicated that
> machine (on the advice of its mfg.: ADK Pro Audio) as my studio's DAW; &
> went out & got the Compaq for the studio's office (& for graphics; the
> internet, etc.)...it came w/ Vista...which I sort-of don't like all that
> well. Well...I do...I can learn...but not w/o program compatibility w/ the
> above.]
>
>
> UPDATE 1: Tried a clean boot reinstall (as dictated by MS Support
> site)...that didn't work. Problem is...in the control panel applet under
> add/remove programs...a listing for Adobe Illustrator CS3 is appearing...&
> WILL NOT uninstall. I've deleted every program file folder & registry
> entry related to Illustrator I could find...but it still will not delete.
>
> I also can't use the Adobe *Clean Script* thing...as that deletes ALL CS3
> programs at level 1 (save for Reader). I've got Photoshop CS3 on my
> machine...as donated to me by my ex-employer. I no longer work for that
> firm; & do not want to lose Photoshop. I could move all my Photoshop
> program files to an external HD backup...but I do not know how to then
> back up my registry (relative to only Photoshop) in order to restore my
> authorizations afterward.
>
>
> UPDATE2: Downloaded & ran CCleaner...attempting to fully uninstall
> Illustrator CS3 (as advised by an mvp as the best cleaner/registry editor
> utility out there)...which it would not do.
>
> So...(in CCleaner)...first I *renamed* the program entry (from within
> CCleaner) & then ran it's registry cleaner (in which case it found tons of
> Illustrator entries...which I deleted). Then I attempted to install
> Illustrator.
>
> At first, there was no error message as originally stated (cannot install
> two Adobe products, ad nauseam)...& it actually started...but it didn't
> install in the typical way...the DVD-ROM just ran & ran...& all it did was
> to place an Adobe Illustrator CS3 entry back in the damn add/remove
> programs applet. But there were no windows that came up indicating an
> installation in progress, or anything like that...no program files
> installed...no program listing under Start > Programs...nothing but the
> program listed in add/remove programs.
>
> So then I *deleted* the program entry from within CCleaner...& the exact
> same thing happened...which is, for all intents & purposes...some sort of
> partial installation.
>
> Not sure which direction to turn, here.

FWIW, I've got Adobe CS3 installed on my 64-bit Vista and it works well for
me.
But the general rules (for me) are:
If you intend to use new stuff, use Vista
If you intend to use old stuff, don't use Vista

BTW, CS3 is not designed for Vista, CS4 is.

Your problem may be solved by simple reboot.

"mark4man" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello...
>
> Having (so far) two major problems w/ Vista (aside from all that
> permissions crapiola):
>
> 1) I cannot install Microsoft Streets & Trips
>
> 2) When I attempt to install Adobe Illustrator (CS3), I get a message that
> reads:
>
>>>Windows Vista can only install one Adobe product at a time...please
>>>complete the other installation before attempting to install Illustrator
>>>CS3<<
>
> I've done the Windows Installer Clean-Up utility thing (& there are *no*
> other Adobe apps running during the installation attempt).
>
> So...
>
> Can these issues be fixed ?
>
> If not...can I still obtain XP Pro (& have it be official; & operable) ?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> mark4man
> Vista Home Premium
> Compaq Presario SR5610F
>
>
> Note: [a little background...I had previously 'one' PC...as a digital
> audio workstation in my recording/mastering studio. It was also connected
> to the internet; & I wound up w/ a nasty back-door virus. Dedicated that
> machine (on the advice of its mfg.: ADK Pro Audio) as my studio's DAW; &
> went out & got the Compaq for the studio's office (& for graphics; the
> internet, etc.)...it came w/ Vista...which I sort-of don't like all that
> well. Well...I do...I can learn...but not w/o program compatibility w/ the
> above.]
>
>
> UPDATE 1: Tried a clean boot reinstall (as dictated by MS Support
> site)...that didn't work. Problem is...in the control panel applet under
> add/remove programs...a listing for Adobe Illustrator CS3 is appearing...&
> WILL NOT uninstall. I've deleted every program file folder & registry
> entry related to Illustrator I could find...but it still will not delete.
>
> I also can't use the Adobe *Clean Script* thing...as that deletes ALL CS3
> programs at level 1 (save for Reader). I've got Photoshop CS3 on my
> machine...as donated to me by my ex-employer. I no longer work for that
> firm; & do not want to lose Photoshop. I could move all my Photoshop
> program files to an external HD backup...but I do not know how to then
> back up my registry (relative to only Photoshop) in order to restore my
> authorizations afterward.
>
>
> UPDATE2: Downloaded & ran CCleaner...attempting to fully uninstall
> Illustrator CS3 (as advised by an mvp as the best cleaner/registry editor
> utility out there)...which it would not do.
>
> So...(in CCleaner)...first I *renamed* the program entry (from within
> CCleaner) & then ran it's registry cleaner (in which case it found tons of
> Illustrator entries...which I deleted). Then I attempted to install
> Illustrator.
>
> At first, there was no error message as originally stated (cannot install
> two Adobe products, ad nauseam)...& it actually started...but it didn't
> install in the typical way...the DVD-ROM just ran & ran...& all it did was
> to place an Adobe Illustrator CS3 entry back in the damn add/remove
> programs applet. But there were no windows that came up indicating an
> installation in progress, or anything like that...no program files
> installed...no program listing under Start > Programs...nothing but the
> program listed in add/remove programs.
>
> So then I *deleted* the program entry from within CCleaner...& the exact
> same thing happened...which is, for all intents & purposes...some sort of
> partial installation.
>
> Not sure which direction to turn, here.

Dusko Savatovic wrote:
> FWIW, I've got Adobe CS3 installed on my 64-bit Vista and it works well
> for me.
> But the general rules (for me) are:
> If you intend to use new stuff, use Vista
> If you intend to use old stuff, don't use Vista
>
> BTW, CS3 is not designed for Vista, CS4 is.
>
> Your problem may be solved by simple reboot.
>
> "mark4man" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hello...
>>
>> Having (so far) two major problems w/ Vista (aside from all that
>> permissions crapiola):
snip...

And I've got CS2 installed on Vista 64 on my notebook, not being one to buy
new software when the old stuff does the job. It works just fine and
presented no installation problems. There seems to be nothing about old
Adobe software as such which prevents it from installing on Vista.

--
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http://johnmcgaw.com

Stop reading things into my post. I didn't say it wasn't possible, just may
require some research and legwork, and depending on the OP's computer
knowledge may be beyond his capabilities.

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"Bill Anderson" <> wrote in message
news:...
> David B. wrote:
>> "Can these issues be fixed ?" That would be a question for Adobe
>> support.
>>
>> "can I still obtain XP Pro" Sure, it's still available for sale here and
>> there, if you buy it it will be "legal", whether it will work on your
>> system or not is a different story.
>>
>
> Is that right? Is is possible now to purchase a computer (or assemble one
> from off-the-shelf parts) that would be compatible with Vista but
> incompatible with XP Pro? Is there hardware for which no XP drivers are
> offered and the Vista drivers are not backward-compatible?
>
> --
> Bill Anderson
>
> I am the Mighty Favog

That is correct.
A lot of computers have no Vista compatible Drivers written for their
Hardware.
That is why you have to check at manufacturuer's site for XP drivers, before
rushing in to try and install XP on a comp that came pre-loaded with Vista
--
Mad Mike


"Bill Anderson" wrote:

> David B. wrote:
> > "Can these issues be fixed ?" That would be a question for Adobe support.
> >
> > "can I still obtain XP Pro" Sure, it's still available for sale here
> > and there, if you buy it it will be "legal", whether it will work on
> > your system or not is a different story.
> >
>
> Is that right? Is is possible now to purchase a computer (or assemble
> one from off-the-shelf parts) that would be compatible with Vista but
> incompatible with XP Pro? Is there hardware for which no XP drivers are
> offered and the Vista drivers are not backward-compatible?
>
> --
> Bill Anderson
>
> I am the Mighty Favog
>

"Bill Anderson" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Mick Murphy wrote:
>> That is why you have to check at manufacturuer's site for XP drivers,
>> before rushing in to try and install XP on a comp that came pre-loaded
>> with Vista
>
> Huh?


What's wrong with that?

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"John McGaw" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Dusko Savatovic wrote:
>> FWIW, I've got Adobe CS3 installed on my 64-bit Vista and it works well

> And I've got CS2 installed on Vista 64 on my notebook, not being one to
> buy new software when the old stuff does the job. It works just fine and
> presented no installation problems. There seems to be nothing about old
> Adobe software as such which prevents it from installing on Vista.

Right on - InDesign CS, Illustrator 10, PhotoShop 5 all running OK on Vista
32

/M

>
> --
> John McGaw
> http://johnmcgaw.com

"Cody Jarrett" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:01:36 -0500, Bill Anderson
> <> wrote:
>
>>Gordon wrote:
>>> "Bill Anderson" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Mick Murphy wrote:
>>>>> That is why you have to check at manufacturuer's site for XP
>>>>> drivers,
>>>>> before rushing in to try and install XP on a comp that came
>>>>> pre-loaded with Vista
>>>>
>>>> Huh?
>>>
>>>
>>> What's wrong with that?
>>>
>>
>>Nothing at all now that you've snipped the part that created a leap of
>>illogic.
>
> The "leap of logic" was in your freaking head.
>
> Murphy said in effect that one must check the mfr website to make sure
> XP drivers exist before moving forward, because not all Vista
> computers have XP drivers written for their hardware.
>
No, Mick didn't say that. What he said was:

"Mick Murphy" <> wrote in message
news:57FD5A7E-C7C2-4AB5-B748-...
>
> That is correct.
> A lot of computers have no Vista compatible Drivers written for their
> Hardware.
> That is why you have to check at manufacturuer's site for XP drivers,
> before
> rushing in to try and install XP on a comp that came pre-loaded with
> Vista

So, what Mick said was since a lot of computers lack *Vista* drivers,
you should check for *XP* drivers before trying to install XP. Mick
mis-spoke, so Bill's post was technically correct in questioning it
(although it was pretty obvious what he *meant*).

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No matter where you go, there you are!

In article <>,
says...
> Hello...
>
> Having (so far) two major problems w/ Vista (aside from all that permissions
> crapiola):
>
> 1) I cannot install Microsoft Streets & Trips
>
> 2) When I attempt to install Adobe Illustrator (CS3), I get a message that
> reads:
>
> >>Windows Vista can only install one Adobe product at a time...please

Yes be sure you get the latest versions of the programs
and install as an administrator.

If that fails find someone who knows something about
computers and operating systems.