Since January 18th, no high-priority updates...

Since January 18th, 2006 Microsoft Update says "no high-priority updates" for
my p/c (Pentium 4, 3.0 Ghz, Windows XP home SP2, NOD32) and neither have I
received any downloads from automatic Windows updates (turned on).
I checked today my Microsoft download notifications in my e-mail and then
downloaded Microsoft Antispyware (Beta).
In same page I saw that other people downloading this, also downloaded
KB883909, 896727 and 890923, all adressing a security issue in a p/c that
lets somebody to take control of it, eventually.
I checked my download history in Microsoft Update and those three I hadn't
downloaded them.
I downloaded them manually and checked again Microsoft Update, again "no
high-priority updates".
I'm afraid Microsoft Update and Automatic Updates aren't working any more
for my p/c..

KB883939, sorry, I mistyped it before.

"E. T." wrote:

> Since January 18th, 2006 Microsoft Update says "no high-priority updates" for
> my p/c (Pentium 4, 3.0 Ghz, Windows XP home SP2, NOD32) and neither have I
> received any downloads from automatic Windows updates (turned on).
> I checked today my Microsoft download notifications in my e-mail and then
> downloaded Microsoft Antispyware (Beta).
> In same page I saw that other people downloading this, also downloaded
> KB883909, 896727 and 890923, all adressing a security issue in a p/c that
> lets somebody to take control of it, eventually.
> I checked my download history in Microsoft Update and those three I hadn't
> downloaded them.
> I downloaded them manually and checked again Microsoft Update, again "no
> high-priority updates".
> I'm afraid Microsoft Update and Automatic Updates aren't working any more
> for my p/c..

Do you have 905915 (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=905915) installed?
(I'd hazard to say you do.)

Do you know what a "cumulative" update is?

Most likely, Windows/Automatic Update didn't offer you those 3 earlier
/cumulative/ IE updates because you have the most-recent one (905915)
installed.

If 905915 is installed, Windows/Automatic Update appears to be working
correctly. Best to rely on them for updates your machine needs instead of
picking & choosing ones you /think/ it needs, ET. <wink>
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

E. T. wrote:
> KB883939, sorry, I mistyped it before.
>
> "E. T." wrote:
>
> > Since January 18th, 2006 Microsoft Update says "no high-priority
> > updates" for my p/c (Pentium 4, 3.0 Ghz, Windows XP home SP2, NOD32)
> > and neither have I received any downloads from automatic Windows
> > updates (turned on).
> > I checked today my Microsoft download notifications in my e-mail and
> > then downloaded Microsoft Antispyware (Beta).
> > In same page I saw that other people downloading this, also downloaded
> > KB883909, 896727 and 890923, all adressing a security issue in a p/c
> > that lets somebody to take control of it, eventually.
> > I checked my download history in Microsoft Update and those three I
> > hadn't downloaded them.
> > I downloaded them manually and checked again Microsoft Update, again "no
> > high-priority updates".
> > I'm afraid Microsoft Update and Automatic Updates aren't working any
> > more for my p/c..

PS: The next batch of updates is scheduled for 14 Feb-06.

Yes, I have 905915.
But since Microsoft says to visit at least once a week its update page and
because I have other problems in my p/c (my clock changes very often and I
must correct it, for instance and I'm afraid about some trojan, also), I
worried about this, too.

Thank you



"PA Bear" wrote:

> PS: The next batch of updates is scheduled for 14 Feb-06.
>

If you have Automatic Updates enabled (and it's working properly), there's
no need to check in at Windows Update weekly.

If your clock's loosing time, your BIOS battery may be going dead. See
http://snipurl.com/mgx5

Checking for/Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware

When all else fails, HijackThis v1.99.1
(http://aumha.net/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool to use.
It will help you to both identify and remove any hijackware/spyware. **Post
your log to http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=22,
http://castlecops.com/forum67.html,
http://forums.subratam.org/index.php?showforum=7,
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, or other appropriate forums for expert
analysis, not here.**
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org


E. T. wrote:
> Yes, I have 905915.
> But since Microsoft says to visit at least once a week its update page and
> because I have other problems in my p/c (my clock changes very often and I
> must correct it, for instance and I'm afraid about some trojan, also), I
> worried about this, too.
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
> > PS: The next batch of updates is scheduled for 14 Feb-06.

Your clock changing is often the result of a low BIOS battery.
It is usually a CR2032, relatively easy and quick to replace on desktop
computers.
Exactly what happens with the clock?

Follow the yellow section on this page to help be sure there are no viruses,
spyware or other malware involved:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"E. T." <> wrote in message
news:52FE93B0-1EAA-476B-A86D-...
> Yes, I have 905915.
> But since Microsoft says to visit at least once a week its update page and
> because I have other problems in my p/c (my clock changes very often and I
> must correct it, for instance and I'm afraid about some trojan, also), I
> worried about this, too.
>
> Thank you

I had my previous p/c crashed because of hacking (7 years of BIG problems)
and I bought a new one a month ago.
In the first 10 days I had NIS 2006 of the new p/c stopping ALL programs of
it from functionning through successive security alerts.
I uninstalled NIS 2006, restored Windows to their activation date, installed
NOD32 and updated it
fully.
Though now it seems averything functions alright (for instance, malicious
softwear removal tool of Windows finds nothing suspicious in my system),
the Windows clock changes very often (every one or two days) it shows either
one or seven hours earlier or later than the actual time. Or half an hour,
it is never the same.
Today I tried to download a 30 days trial translation-memory program that
made VERY much time to complete and then when I tried to ask for a validation
code from the company, I saw a mail delivery failure in my inbox, proving
that I sent
to their server a mail to an uhknown receiver that failed to be delivered.
I did not send anything, of course.
I will visit the page you say, but this is a war I've fought for too long
and I'm not very optimistic about the end.



"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> Your clock changing is often the result of a low BIOS battery.
> It is usually a CR2032, relatively easy and quick to replace on desktop
> computers.
> Exactly what happens with the clock?
>
> Follow the yellow section on this page to help be sure there are no viruses,
> spyware or other malware involved:
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "E. T." <> wrote in message
> news:52FE93B0-1EAA-476B-A86D-...
> > Yes, I have 905915.
> > But since Microsoft says to visit at least once a week its update page and
> > because I have other problems in my p/c (my clock changes very often and I
> > must correct it, for instance and I'm afraid about some trojan, also), I
> > worried about this, too.
> >
> > Thank you
>
>
>

I found this extract in my p/c's error log:

Thursday, 2 February 2006 Windows Update Agent Unable to Connect: Windows is
unable to connect to the automatic updates service and therefore cannot
download and install updates according to the set schedule. Windows will
continue to try to establish a connection.
Friday, 10 February 2006 Windows Update Agent Unable to Connect: Windows is
unable to connect to the automatic updates service and therefore cannot
download and install updates according to the set schedule. Windows will
continue to try to establish a connection.

As per the yellow instructions:
I achieved to finish Panda scan with IE, it found just 45 cookies (spywear)
which I erased manually, scanned again and was found clean.
When I tried to do Kapersky scan my Windows denied access to their active x
control, cause they were "unknown" to them. Did not insist.
I tried Symantec's scan but could only finish security check (I downloaded
Netscape 8 for this) and was found safe.
With IE it's impossible to achieve any Symantec's scan, it downloads for
ever the program and viruses definitions, or starts scanning and stops for
ever somewhere in the beginning of it.
This was routine with my previous p/c also.
Symantec does not support virus check with Firefox (which is a bit safer
browser than IE), and Netscape is compatible only with their security scan.
I tried a million times to scan with Trend Micro, through IE and Firefox, I
had this error log:

Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application
firefox.exe, version 1.8.20060.11112, faulting module firefox.exe, version
1.8.20060.11112, fault address 0x002af689.
Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application getmac.exe,
version 0.0.0.0, faulting module getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0, fault address
0x00001aad.
Sunday, 12 February 2006 DrWatson The application, C:\Documents and
Settings\expert\.housecall\get Mac.exe, generated an application error The
error occurred on 02/12/2006 @ 10:06:59.765 The exception generated was
c0000005 at address 00401AAD (getMac)
Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application getmac.exe,
version 0.0.0.0, faulting module getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0, fault address
0x00001aad.
Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Fault bucket 266101529.
Sunday, 12 February 2006 DrWatson The application, C:\Documents and
Settings\expert\.housecall\get Mac.exe, generated an application error The
error occurred on 02/12/2006 @ 10:11:49.421 The exception generated was
c0000005 at address 00401AAD (getMac)
Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application getmac.exe,
version 0.0.0.0, faulting module getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0, fault address
0x00001aad.
Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Fault bucket 266101529.
Sunday, 12 February 2006 DrWatson The application, C:\Documents and
Settings\expert\.housecall\get Mac.exe, generated an application error The
error occurred on 02/12/2006 @ 10:24:15.281 The exception generated was
c0000005 at address 00401AAD (getMac)
Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application getmac.exe,
version 0.0.0.0, faulting module getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0, fault address
0x00001aad.
Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Fault bucket 266101529.
Sunday, 12 February 2006 DrWatson The application, C:\Documents and
Settings\expert\.housecall\get Mac.exe, generated an application error The
error occurred on 02/12/2006 @ 10:38:43.953 The exception generated was
c0000005 at address 00401AAD (getMac)
Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application getmac.exe,
version 0.0.0.0, faulting module getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0, fault address
0x00001aad.
Sunday, 12 February 2006 DrWatson The application, C:\Documents and
Settings\expert\.housecall\get Mac.exe, generated an application error The
error occurred on 02/12/2006 @ 20:23:45.140 The exception generated was
c0000005 at address 00401AAD (getMac)

....and a serious error report of Windows:

Sunday, 12 February 2006 System Error Error code 100000d1, parameter1
00000018, parameter2 00000002, parameter3 00000000, parameter4 f7d08393.

A short blackout and the announcement "Windows just recovered from a serious
system error..., please inform Microsoft about this..." which I did and saw
a screen saying "unfortunately we do not know the reason of this problem, we
investigate..., please contact your p/c's vendor etc... etc."
A similar event happenned when I had the NIS 2006 successive security alerts
problem (EACH AND EVERY program of my system was stopped by them, dial-up,
IE, LiveUpdate, NIS full scan, could not do anything practically than
restore, was happy to discover at least this as didn't know it existed).
Now my p/c works again as if anything happenned.
The situation that led to my previous p/c's crash and is continuing with the
new one is: someone puts trojans in my system and then doesn't let me to scan
for to detect or remove them, prevents me from doing anything useful (to
work for money, to visit places that I could inform about it or find
solutions), corrupts my system's parts as cd-rom driver, printer and fdd (the
ones of previous system were totally out of order a year before the crash),
so that I could not install any security systems from a cd-rom, or save logs
for to send them somewhere from
outside, etc etc.
If I try to scan or erase their trojans as on January with the first event,
or now, they show up their strength with a temporarily black out, so that
I'll be afraid they'll ruin the new p/c too if I try to erase their malicious
programs.
I'm not rich, the second p/c I owe it and will take a couple of years for to
pay it off.
Now I managed to finish Trend Micro scan with Netscape, All time step 3
(listing and removing...) was accomplishing, my p/c was passing monentarily
to dos mode (black screen and a white cursor top left) and when it finished
my connection was dropped and I reconnected. I was found clean but, under
those circumstances no scan is trustworthy, I believe.
I forgot to say I have no access to my safe mode through pressing F8 when I
start or restart (for to scan and correct anything possible from there). My
p/c enters automatically to Windows no matter if I try 1000000 times to
access safe mode.
Is there any way to access safe mode from dos?
And a way to enter dos?

Thanks

P.S. I see in this forum other people too have problems with their Windows
Update.




"E. T." wrote:

> I had my previous p/c crashed because of hacking (7 years of BIG problems)
> and I bought a new one a month ago.
> In the first 10 days I had NIS 2006 of the new p/c stopping ALL programs of
> it from functionning through successive security alerts.
> I uninstalled NIS 2006, restored Windows to their activation date, installed
> NOD32 and updated it
> fully.
> Though now it seems averything functions alright (for instance, malicious
> softwear removal tool of Windows finds nothing suspicious in my system),
> the Windows clock changes very often (every one or two days) it shows either
> one or seven hours earlier or later than the actual time. Or half an hour,
> it is never the same.
> Today I tried to download a 30 days trial translation-memory program that
> made VERY much time to complete and then when I tried to ask for a validation
> code from the company, I saw a mail delivery failure in my inbox, proving
> that I sent
> to their server a mail to an uhknown receiver that failed to be delivered.
> I did not send anything, of course.
> I will visit the page you say, but this is a war I've fought for too long
> and I'm not very optimistic about the end.
>
>
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Your clock changing is often the result of a low BIOS battery.
> > It is usually a CR2032, relatively easy and quick to replace on desktop
> > computers.
> > Exactly what happens with the clock?
> >
> > Follow the yellow section on this page to help be sure there are no viruses,
> > spyware or other malware involved:
> > http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm
> >
> > --
> > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> > http://www.dts-l.org
> >
> >
> > "E. T." <> wrote in message
> > news:52FE93B0-1EAA-476B-A86D-...
> > > Yes, I have 905915.
> > > But since Microsoft says to visit at least once a week its update page and
> > > because I have other problems in my p/c (my clock changes very often and I
> > > must correct it, for instance and I'm afraid about some trojan, also), I
> > > worried about this, too.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> >
> >
> >

> > In the first 10 days I had NIS 2006 of the new p/c stopping ALL
> > programs of it from functionning through successive security alerts.
> > I uninstalled NIS 2006...

There's more to do to get rid of everything NIS 2006-related than just
uninstalling it. At the very least, I would run SymNRT
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039)
and SymCLN
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039).

Symantec NAV, NIS, NSW Removal
http://basconotw.mvps.org/SymRem.htm

> Thursday, 2 February 2006 Windows Update Agent Unable to Connect: Windows
> is unable to connect to the automatic updates service and therefore
> cannot download and install updates according to the set schedule.

At what time do you have Automatic Updates scheduled to check for updates,
ET? Is the machine running and connected to the internet at this time?

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in Windows XP:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306525

How to schedule automatic updates in WinXP, Win2K and Win2K03
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=327838

Given your other symptoms, I'd most definitely run a thorough check for
hijackware. See my previous reply.

Oh, and keep your warranty handy. You just might have a lemon on your
hands.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

E. T. wrote:
> I found this extract in my p/c's error log:
>
> Thursday, 2 February 2006 Windows Update Agent Unable to Connect: Windows
> is unable to connect to the automatic updates service and therefore
> cannot download and install updates according to the set schedule.
> Windows will continue to try to establish a connection.
> Friday, 10 February 2006 Windows Update Agent Unable to Connect: Windows
> is unable to connect to the automatic updates service and therefore cannot
> download and install updates according to the set schedule. Windows will
> continue to try to establish a connection.
>
> As per the yellow instructions:
> I achieved to finish Panda scan with IE, it found just 45 cookies
> (spywear) which I erased manually, scanned again and was found clean.
> When I tried to do Kapersky scan my Windows denied access to their active
> x control, cause they were "unknown" to them. Did not insist.
> I tried Symantec's scan but could only finish security check (I downloaded
> Netscape 8 for this) and was found safe.
> With IE it's impossible to achieve any Symantec's scan, it downloads for
> ever the program and viruses definitions, or starts scanning and stops
> for ever somewhere in the beginning of it.
> This was routine with my previous p/c also.
> Symantec does not support virus check with Firefox (which is a bit safer
> browser than IE), and Netscape is compatible only with their security
> scan. I tried a million times to scan with Trend Micro, through IE and
> Firefox, I had this error log:
>
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application
> firefox.exe, version 1.8.20060.11112, faulting module firefox.exe,
> version
> 1.8.20060.11112, fault address 0x002af689.
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application
> getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0,
> fault address 0x00001aad.
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 DrWatson The application, C:\Documents and
> Settings\expert\.housecall\get Mac.exe, generated an application error The
> error occurred on 02/12/2006 @ 10:06:59.765 The exception generated was
> c0000005 at address 00401AAD (getMac)
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application
> getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0,
> fault address 0x00001aad.
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Fault bucket 266101529.
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 DrWatson The application, C:\Documents and
> Settings\expert\.housecall\get Mac.exe, generated an application error The
> error occurred on 02/12/2006 @ 10:11:49.421 The exception generated was
> c0000005 at address 00401AAD (getMac)
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application
> getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module getmac.exe, version
> 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00001aad.
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Fault bucket 266101529.
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 DrWatson The application, C:\Documents and
> Settings\expert\.housecall\get Mac.exe, generated an application error The
> error occurred on 02/12/2006 @ 10:24:15.281 The exception generated was
> c0000005 at address 00401AAD (getMac)
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application
> getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module getmac.exe, version
> 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00001aad.
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Fault bucket 266101529.
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 DrWatson The application, C:\Documents and
> Settings\expert\.housecall\get Mac.exe, generated an application error The
> error occurred on 02/12/2006 @ 10:38:43.953 The exception generated was
> c0000005 at address 00401AAD (getMac)
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 Applicatio n Error Faulting application
> getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module getmac.exe, version 0.0.0.0,
> fault address 0x00001aad.
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 DrWatson The application, C:\Documents and
> Settings\expert\.housecall\get Mac.exe, generated an application error The
> error occurred on 02/12/2006 @ 20:23:45.140 The exception generated was
> c0000005 at address 00401AAD (getMac)
>
> ...and a serious error report of Windows:
>
> Sunday, 12 February 2006 System Error Error code 100000d1, parameter1
> 00000018, parameter2 00000002, parameter3 00000000, parameter4 f7d08393.
>
> A short blackout and the announcement "Windows just recovered from a
> serious system error..., please inform Microsoft about this..." which I
> did and saw a screen saying "unfortunately we do not know the reason of
> this problem, we investigate..., please contact your p/c's vendor etc...
> etc."
> A similar event happenned when I had the NIS 2006 successive security
> alerts problem (EACH AND EVERY program of my system was stopped by them,
> dial-up, IE, LiveUpdate, NIS full scan, could not do anything
> practically than restore, was happy to discover at least this as didn't
> know it existed). Now my p/c works again as if anything happenned.
> The situation that led to my previous p/c's crash and is continuing with
> the new one is: someone puts trojans in my system and then doesn't let me
> to scan for to detect or remove them, prevents me from doing anything
> useful (to work for money, to visit places that I could inform about it
> or find solutions), corrupts my system's parts as cd-rom driver, printer
> and fdd (the ones of previous system were totally out of order a year
> before the crash), so that I could not install any security systems from
> a cd-rom, or save logs for to send them somewhere from
> outside, etc etc.
> If I try to scan or erase their trojans as on January with the first
> event, or now, they show up their strength with a temporarily black out,
> so that I'll be afraid they'll ruin the new p/c too if I try to erase
> their malicious programs.
> I'm not rich, the second p/c I owe it and will take a couple of years for
> to pay it off.
> Now I managed to finish Trend Micro scan with Netscape, All time step 3
> (listing and removing...) was accomplishing, my p/c was passing
> monentarily to dos mode (black screen and a white cursor top left) and
> when it finished my connection was dropped and I reconnected. I was
> found clean but, under those circumstances no scan is trustworthy, I
> believe.
> I forgot to say I have no access to my safe mode through pressing F8 when
> I start or restart (for to scan and correct anything possible from
> there). My p/c enters automatically to Windows no matter if I try
> 1000000 times to access safe mode.
> Is there any way to access safe mode from dos?
> And a way to enter dos?
>
> "E. T." wrote:
> > I had my previous p/c crashed because of hacking (7 years of BIG
> > problems) and I bought a new one a month ago.
> > In the first 10 days I had NIS 2006 of the new p/c stopping ALL
> > programs of it from functionning through successive security alerts.
> > I uninstalled NIS 2006, restored Windows to their activation date,
> > installed NOD32 and updated it
> > fully.
> > Though now it seems averything functions alright (for instance,
> > malicious softwear removal tool of Windows finds nothing suspicious in
> > my system),
> > the Windows clock changes very often (every one or two days) it shows
> > either one or seven hours earlier or later than the actual time. Or
> > half an hour, it is never the same.
> > Today I tried to download a 30 days trial translation-memory program
> > that made VERY much time to complete and then when I tried to ask for a
> > validation code from the company, I saw a mail delivery failure in my
> > inbox, proving that I sent
> > to their server a mail to an uhknown receiver that failed to be
> > delivered.
> > I did not send anything, of course.
> > I will visit the page you say, but this is a war I've fought for too
> > long and I'm not very optimistic about the end.
> >
> > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
> > > Your clock changing is often the result of a low BIOS battery.
> > > It is usually a CR2032, relatively easy and quick to replace on
> > > desktop computers.
> > > Exactly what happens with the clock?
> > >
> > > Follow the yellow section on this page to help be sure there are no
> > > viruses, spyware or other malware involved:
> > > http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm
> > > --
> > > "E. T." <> wrote in message
> > > news:52FE93B0-1EAA-476B-A86D-...
> > > > Yes, I have 905915.
> > > > But since Microsoft says to visit at least once a week its update
> > > > page and because I have other problems in my p/c (my clock changes
> > > > very often and I must correct it, for instance and I'm afraid about
> > > > some trojan, also), I worried about this, too.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you