Slow Web Sufing looks like DNS issue

Running SBS-2003 SP2, All the PC's started running extremely slow about 2
weeks ago. I have found by entering an Open DNS number like 4.2.2.2 in the
DNS field of the client's network card that the internet works extremely
well. But without it the clients will often time out or take a long time in
getting to the web site they need.

Without adding an Open DNS in the DNS field and leaving it to automatically
recieve an IP and DNS from the server, it runs very very slowly and takes
forever to do anything on the internet.

What do I need to add to the DNS on the Server to allow all my users fast
internet access without having to visit each machine and enter in a static
opendns in the DNS field?

Thank you,

Hello DJ,

You did it the wrong way, all domain machines have to use ONLY the domain
DNS server. And on the DNS server add the 4.2.2.2 as a FORWARDER on the DNS
server properties in the DNS management console. Also on the SBS machine
use only the domain DNS server on the NIC.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Running SBS-2003 SP2, All the PC's started running extremely slow
> about 2 weeks ago. I have found by entering an Open DNS number like
> 4.2.2.2 in the DNS field of the client's network card that the
> internet works extremely well. But without it the clients will often
> time out or take a long time in getting to the web site they need.
>
> Without adding an Open DNS in the DNS field and leaving it to
> automatically recieve an IP and DNS from the server, it runs very very
> slowly and takes forever to do anything on the internet.
>
> What do I need to add to the DNS on the Server to allow all my users
> fast internet access without having to visit each machine and enter in
> a static opendns in the DNS field?
>
> Thank you,
>

After doing an NSLOOKUP: I get the following:
Default Server: sbs-cp.custompools.dom
Addresss: 192.168.160.99 Then try to
look for Google:

>www.google.com
Server: sbs-cp.custompools.dom
Addresss: 192.168.160.99

DNS request timed out.
timeout was 2 seconds.
*** Request to sbs-cp.custompools.dom timed-out
>


"DJ" wrote:

> Running SBS-2003 SP2, All the PC's started running extremely slow about 2
> weeks ago. I have found by entering an Open DNS number like 4.2.2.2 in the
> DNS field of the client's network card that the internet works extremely
> well. But without it the clients will often time out or take a long time in
> getting to the web site they need.
>
> Without adding an Open DNS in the DNS field and leaving it to automatically
> recieve an IP and DNS from the server, it runs very very slowly and takes
> forever to do anything on the internet.
>
> What do I need to add to the DNS on the Server to allow all my users fast
> internet access without having to visit each machine and enter in a static
> opendns in the DNS field?
>
> Thank you,
>

I went ahead and added the OpenDNS number to my Forwarder in the DNS
Management Console on the SBS-2003 Server. I also made it the first one,
above the ISP's. Then I restarted the DNS and had a client log off and back
in to see if things improved, he thought that it was better internet access
than before.

Is there another setting in DNS or DHCP that would improve internet surfing?
thank you for the assistance!
DJ

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Hello DJ,
>
> You did it the wrong way, all domain machines have to use ONLY the domain
> DNS server. And on the DNS server add the 4.2.2.2 as a FORWARDER on the DNS
> server properties in the DNS management console. Also on the SBS machine
> use only the domain DNS server on the NIC.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Running SBS-2003 SP2, All the PC's started running extremely slow
> > about 2 weeks ago. I have found by entering an Open DNS number like
> > 4.2.2.2 in the DNS field of the client's network card that the
> > internet works extremely well. But without it the clients will often
> > time out or take a long time in getting to the web site they need.
> >
> > Without adding an Open DNS in the DNS field and leaving it to
> > automatically recieve an IP and DNS from the server, it runs very very
> > slowly and takes forever to do anything on the internet.
> >
> > What do I need to add to the DNS on the Server to allow all my users
> > fast internet access without having to visit each machine and enter in
> > a static opendns in the DNS field?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
>
>
>

Hello DJ,

DNS is the important one, if the client can resolve the names correct, that's
all. In DHCP also make sure that only domain internal settings are provided.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> I went ahead and added the OpenDNS number to my Forwarder in the DNS
> Management Console on the SBS-2003 Server. I also made it the first
> one, above the ISP's. Then I restarted the DNS and had a client log
> off and back in to see if things improved, he thought that it was
> better internet access than before.
>
> Is there another setting in DNS or DHCP that would improve internet
> surfing?
> thank you for the assistance!
> DJ
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> Hello DJ,
>>
>> You did it the wrong way, all domain machines have to use ONLY the
>> domain DNS server. And on the DNS server add the 4.2.2.2 as a
>> FORWARDER on the DNS server properties in the DNS management console.
>> Also on the SBS machine use only the domain DNS server on the NIC.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Running SBS-2003 SP2, All the PC's started running extremely slow
>>> about 2 weeks ago. I have found by entering an Open DNS number like
>>> 4.2.2.2 in the DNS field of the client's network card that the
>>> internet works extremely well. But without it the clients will often
>>> time out or take a long time in getting to the web site they need.
>>>
>>> Without adding an Open DNS in the DNS field and leaving it to
>>> automatically recieve an IP and DNS from the server, it runs very
>>> very slowly and takes forever to do anything on the internet.
>>>
>>> What do I need to add to the DNS on the Server to allow all my users
>>> fast internet access without having to visit each machine and enter
>>> in a static opendns in the DNS field?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>

"DJ" <> wrote in message
news:90868046-4876-40BE-8D00-...
>I went ahead and added the OpenDNS number to my Forwarder in the DNS
> Management Console on the SBS-2003 Server. I also made it the first one,
> above the ISP's. Then I restarted the DNS and had a client log off and
> back
> in to see if things improved, he thought that it was better internet
> access
> than before.
>
> Is there another setting in DNS or DHCP that would improve internet
> surfing?
> thank you for the assistance!
> DJ

Keep in mind, that 4.2.2.2 is not really an "open DNS" address (assuming by
what you mean "open" being something out there you can use), rather it's
just a DNS server out on the internet that you can use for a forwarder or
nslookup tests, that allows Recursion on the server and the ISP has not
limited 'views' (which subnets it's restricted to respond from). There are
many out there. Matter of fact, if you can remember the DNS address your
former ISP used to use, you can probably use that too, as long as Recursion
is allowed.


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I just used the 4.2.2.2 as an example the Open DNS I am using is this one:
208.67.222.222 - What I don't understand is why this DNS would be so much
faster than Comcast DNS, especially since they are my ISP?
Without having this DNS at the top of the DNS entries it takes over a minute
to get to some sites and will even time out on some, but with the open DNS
entry at the top of the list, the web sites just pop open very quickly.


"Ace Fekay [MCT]" wrote:

> "DJ" <> wrote in message
> news:90868046-4876-40BE-8D00-...
> >I went ahead and added the OpenDNS number to my Forwarder in the DNS
> > Management Console on the SBS-2003 Server. I also made it the first one,
> > above the ISP's. Then I restarted the DNS and had a client log off and
> > back
> > in to see if things improved, he thought that it was better internet
> > access
> > than before.
> >
> > Is there another setting in DNS or DHCP that would improve internet
> > surfing?
> > thank you for the assistance!
> > DJ
>
> Keep in mind, that 4.2.2.2 is not really an "open DNS" address (assuming by
> what you mean "open" being something out there you can use), rather it's
> just a DNS server out on the internet that you can use for a forwarder or
> nslookup tests, that allows Recursion on the server and the ISP has not
> limited 'views' (which subnets it's restricted to respond from). There are
> many out there. Matter of fact, if you can remember the DNS address your
> former ISP used to use, you can probably use that too, as long as Recursion
> is allowed.
>
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum to benefit from collaboration
> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCSE, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> http://twitter.com/acefekay
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
>
>
>

"DJ" <> wrote in message
news:96D3A4CB-CBF0-4B39-8E98-...
>I just used the 4.2.2.2 as an example the Open DNS I am using is this one:
> 208.67.222.222 - What I don't understand is why this DNS would be so much
> faster than Comcast DNS, especially since they are my ISP?
> Without having this DNS at the top of the DNS entries it takes over a
> minute
> to get to some sites and will even time out on some, but with the open DNS
> entry at the top of the list, the web sites just pop open very quickly.

Oh, forgot to also mention, which may be causing some confusion for others
reading this thread, that "OpenDNS" is actually a DNS server made by a
company called Open DNS (http://www.opendns.com/). Some IT folks use it
instead of Microsoft DNS, BIND DNS, etc. I just wanted to make sure you were
aware of that.

Anyway, about Comcast's DNS servers, I'm not sure what to say. They could be
running at full capacity, whereas the other one you tried isn't. When I had
Comcast in the Western Philly suburban region, I've noticed the same thing,
so I've never used their DNS servers. Also, when try running a tracert to
Comcast's DNS server address, and then run one to 208.67.222.222 and compare
the hop count (number of routers needed to go through to get to the
destination). If it is greater for the Comcast DNS, that can explain
additiona lag time, otherwise, they may be running near their capacity
serving their subscribers.

Ace