SNTP Setup on Windows 2003

I am attempting to sync our new Windows 2003 Standard Edition R2 server to
our network NTP time source device. I have done this for our other Windows
2000 servers with out a problem.

I have made similar changes to the W2k3 server to no good avail. Why did it
get so much more difficult?

Hello Anthony,

Is that a workgroup server or domain controller?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> I am attempting to sync our new Windows 2003 Standard Edition R2
> server to our network NTP time source device. I have done this for our
> other Windows 2000 servers with out a problem.
>
> I have made similar changes to the W2k3 server to no good avail. Why
> did it get so much more difficult?
>

Workgroup Server


On 7/28/09 6:12 PM, in article
, "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]"
<> wrote:

> Hello Anthony,
>
> Is that a workgroup server or domain controller?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
>> I am attempting to sync our new Windows 2003 Standard Edition R2
>> server to our network NTP time source device. I have done this for our
>> other Windows 2000 servers with out a problem.
>>
>> I have made similar changes to the W2k3 server to no good avail. Why
>> did it get so much more difficult?
>>
>
>

Its a workgroup server


On 7/28/09 6:32 PM, in article C694F4D2.31CD%, "Anthony
Lopez" <> wrote:

> Workgroup Server
>
>
> On 7/28/09 6:12 PM, in article
> , "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]"
> <> wrote:
>
>> Hello Anthony,
>>
>> Is that a workgroup server or domain controller?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>
>>
>>> I am attempting to sync our new Windows 2003 Standard Edition R2
>>> server to our network NTP time source device. I have done this for our
>>> other Windows 2000 servers with out a problem.
>>>
>>> I have made similar changes to the W2k3 server to no good avail. Why
>>> did it get so much more difficult?
>>>
>>
>>
>

Hello Anthony,

Be sure that UDP/123 is open when a firewall is used. Run following command:

w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /update

With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name (time.windows.com)
or an ip address from a reliable time source.

Here you can find some of them:
http://www.pool.ntp.org/


Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Workgroup Server
>
> On 7/28/09 6:12 PM, in article
> , "Meinolf Weber
> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>
>> Hello Anthony,
>>
>> Is that a workgroup server or domain controller?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> I am attempting to sync our new Windows 2003 Standard Edition R2
>>> server to our network NTP time source device. I have done this for
>>> our other Windows 2000 servers with out a problem.
>>>
>>> I have made similar changes to the W2k3 server to no good avail. Why
>>> did it get so much more difficult?
>>>

We have a LAN device which is our Stratum-1 time source for all host. It
provides NTP and SNTP version 1, 2, and 3 frames.

Made your suggested changes as described below

Ensured that Firewall is turned off

Just turned off Group Policy

Did a: Stop/Start of w32time

Did a: w32tm /resync /rediscover and got the following error response:
"The computer did not resync because no time data was available."


On 7/29/09 3:59 PM, in article
, "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]"
<> wrote:

> Hello Anthony,
>
> Be sure that UDP/123 is open when a firewall is used. Run following command:
>
> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /update
>
> With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name (time.windows.com)
> or an ip address from a reliable time source.
>
> Here you can find some of them:
> http://www.pool.ntp.org/
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
>> Workgroup Server
>>
>> On 7/28/09 6:12 PM, in article
>> , "Meinolf Weber
>> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Anthony,
>>>
>>> Is that a workgroup server or domain controller?
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Meinolf Weber
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers
>>> no rights.
>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>> I am attempting to sync our new Windows 2003 Standard Edition R2
>>>> server to our network NTP time source device. I have done this for
>>>> our other Windows 2000 servers with out a problem.
>>>>
>>>> I have made similar changes to the W2k3 server to no good avail. Why
>>>> did it get so much more difficult?
>>>>
>
>

Hello Anthony,

Please post the command you used. Also what did you mean with turned off
Group policy? Do you use GPOs for time configuration?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> We have a LAN device which is our Stratum-1 time source for all host.
> It provides NTP and SNTP version 1, 2, and 3 frames.
>
> Made your suggested changes as described below
>
> Ensured that Firewall is turned off
>
> Just turned off Group Policy
>
> Did a: Stop/Start of w32time
>
> Did a: w32tm /resync /rediscover and got the following error response:
> "The computer did not resync because no time data was available."
>
> On 7/29/09 3:59 PM, in article
> , "Meinolf Weber
> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>
>> Hello Anthony,
>>
>> Be sure that UDP/123 is open when a firewall is used. Run following
>> command:
>>
>> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /update
>>
>> With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name
>> (time.windows.com) or an ip address from a reliable time source.
>>
>> Here you can find some of them:
>> http://www.pool.ntp.org/
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Workgroup Server
>>>
>>> On 7/28/09 6:12 PM, in article
>>> , "Meinolf Weber
>>> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Anthony,
>>>>
>>>> Is that a workgroup server or domain controller?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers
>>>> no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> I am attempting to sync our new Windows 2003 Standard Edition R2
>>>>> server to our network NTP time source device. I have done this for
>>>>> our other Windows 2000 servers with out a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have made similar changes to the W2k3 server to no good avail.
>>>>> Why did it get so much more difficult?
>>>>>

Here are the commands that I used

Gpedit.msc

Local Computer Policy | Computer Configuration | Administrative
Configuration | System | Windows Time Service | Time Providers | Configure
Windows NTP Client = Not Configured

Gpupdate /force

Net stop w32time && Net start w32time

w32tm /resync /rediscover



On 7/30/09 1:57 PM, in article
, "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]"
<> wrote:

> Hello Anthony,
>
> Please post the command you used. Also what did you mean with turned off
> Group policy? Do you use GPOs for time configuration?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
>> We have a LAN device which is our Stratum-1 time source for all host.
>> It provides NTP and SNTP version 1, 2, and 3 frames.
>>
>> Made your suggested changes as described below
>>
>> Ensured that Firewall is turned off
>>
>> Just turned off Group Policy
>>
>> Did a: Stop/Start of w32time
>>
>> Did a: w32tm /resync /rediscover and got the following error response:
>> "The computer did not resync because no time data was available."
>>
>> On 7/29/09 3:59 PM, in article
>> , "Meinolf Weber
>> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Anthony,
>>>
>>> Be sure that UDP/123 is open when a firewall is used. Run following
>>> command:
>>>
>>> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /update
>>>
>>> With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name
>>> (time.windows.com) or an ip address from a reliable time source.
>>>
>>> Here you can find some of them:
>>> http://www.pool.ntp.org/
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Meinolf Weber
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers
>>> no rights.
>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>> Workgroup Server
>>>>
>>>> On 7/28/09 6:12 PM, in article
>>>> , "Meinolf Weber
>>>> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Anthony,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that a workgroup server or domain controller?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>> and
>>>>> confers
>>>>> no rights.
>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>> I am attempting to sync our new Windows 2003 Standard Edition R2
>>>>>> server to our network NTP time source device. I have done this for
>>>>>> our other Windows 2000 servers with out a problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have made similar changes to the W2k3 server to no good avail.
>>>>>> Why did it get so much more difficult?
>>>>>>
>
>

Hello Anthony,

So you didn't use:
w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /update

where PEERS is replaced with ip address from your stratum device?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Here are the commands that I used
>
> Gpedit.msc
>
> Local Computer Policy | Computer Configuration | Administrative
> Configuration | System | Windows Time Service | Time Providers |
> Configure Windows NTP Client = Not Configured
>
> Gpupdate /force
>
> Net stop w32time && Net start w32time
>
> w32tm /resync /rediscover
>
> On 7/30/09 1:57 PM, in article
> , "Meinolf Weber
> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>
>> Hello Anthony,
>>
>> Please post the command you used. Also what did you mean with turned
>> off Group policy? Do you use GPOs for time configuration?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> We have a LAN device which is our Stratum-1 time source for all
>>> host. It provides NTP and SNTP version 1, 2, and 3 frames.
>>>
>>> Made your suggested changes as described below
>>>
>>> Ensured that Firewall is turned off
>>>
>>> Just turned off Group Policy
>>>
>>> Did a: Stop/Start of w32time
>>>
>>> Did a: w32tm /resync /rediscover and got the following error
>>> response: "The computer did not resync because no time data was
>>> available."
>>>
>>> On 7/29/09 3:59 PM, in article
>>> , "Meinolf Weber
>>> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Anthony,
>>>>
>>>> Be sure that UDP/123 is open when a firewall is used. Run following
>>>> command:
>>>>
>>>> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /update
>>>>
>>>> With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name
>>>> (time.windows.com) or an ip address from a reliable time source.
>>>>
>>>> Here you can find some of them:
>>>> http://www.pool.ntp.org/
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers
>>>> no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> Workgroup Server
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/28/09 6:12 PM, in article
>>>>> , "Meinolf Weber
>>>>> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Anthony,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that a workgroup server or domain controller?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> confers
>>>>>> no rights.
>>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
>>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>>> I am attempting to sync our new Windows 2003 Standard Edition R2
>>>>>>> server to our network NTP time source device. I have done this
>>>>>>> for our other Windows 2000 servers with out a problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have made similar changes to the W2k3 server to no good avail.
>>>>>>> Why did it get so much more difficult?
>>>>>>>

I sort of thought you were asking about the additional commands I used.
Below is the revised edition


w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /update

>> Gpedit.msc
>>
>> Local Computer Policy | Computer Configuration | Administrative
>> Configuration | System | Windows Time Service | Time Providers |
>> Configure Windows NTP Client = Not Configured
>>
>> Gpupdate /force
>>
>> Net stop w32time && Net start w32time
>>
>> w32tm /resync /rediscover

On 7/30/09 2:30 PM, in article
, "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]"
<> wrote:

> Hello Anthony,
>
> So you didn't use:
> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /update
>
> where PEERS is replaced with ip address from your stratum device?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
>> Here are the commands that I used
>>
>> Gpedit.msc
>>
>> Local Computer Policy | Computer Configuration | Administrative
>> Configuration | System | Windows Time Service | Time Providers |
>> Configure Windows NTP Client = Not Configured
>>
>> Gpupdate /force
>>
>> Net stop w32time && Net start w32time
>>
>> w32tm /resync /rediscover
>>
>> On 7/30/09 1:57 PM, in article
>> , "Meinolf Weber
>> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Anthony,
>>>
>>> Please post the command you used. Also what did you mean with turned
>>> off Group policy? Do you use GPOs for time configuration?
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Meinolf Weber
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers
>>> no rights.
>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>> We have a LAN device which is our Stratum-1 time source for all
>>>> host. It provides NTP and SNTP version 1, 2, and 3 frames.
>>>>
>>>> Made your suggested changes as described below
>>>>
>>>> Ensured that Firewall is turned off
>>>>
>>>> Just turned off Group Policy
>>>>
>>>> Did a: Stop/Start of w32time
>>>>
>>>> Did a: w32tm /resync /rediscover and got the following error
>>>> response: "The computer did not resync because no time data was
>>>> available."
>>>>
>>>> On 7/29/09 3:59 PM, in article
>>>> , "Meinolf Weber
>>>> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Anthony,
>>>>>
>>>>> Be sure that UDP/123 is open when a firewall is used. Run following
>>>>> command:
>>>>>
>>>>> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:PEERS /syncfromflags:manual /update
>>>>>
>>>>> With "PEERS" you can set the time source, either DNS name
>>>>> (time.windows.com) or an ip address from a reliable time source.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here you can find some of them:
>>>>> http://www.pool.ntp.org/
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>> and
>>>>> confers
>>>>> no rights.
>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>> Workgroup Server
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/28/09 6:12 PM, in article
>>>>>> , "Meinolf Weber
>>>>>> [MVP-DS]" <> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Anthony,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that a workgroup server or domain controller?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> confers
>>>>>>> no rights.
>>>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
>>>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>>>> I am attempting to sync our new Windows 2003 Standard Edition R2
>>>>>>>> server to our network NTP time source device. I have done this
>>>>>>>> for our other Windows 2000 servers with out a problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have made similar changes to the W2k3 server to no good avail.
>>>>>>>> Why did it get so much more difficult?
>>>>>>>>
>
>