What is software and media coming to these days?

Seriously!

I mean vista is bad enough with all it's anti piracy, WGA, DRM and all
its other assorted acronyms designed to make the customers life difficult.

DVDs are a pain with their CSS and region coding.

Music is riddled with DRM to prevent someone from actually listening to
it after having purchased it.

Now today, having some free time, I considered maybe going out and buying
Bioshock. It seems interesting enough and might be fun to play for a bit.
Before shelling out around 50 bucks though, I decided to do a little
research first and I am glad I did.

Come to find out, 50 bucks doesn't just buy me bioshock, it also buys me
this:

A rootkit which compromises security in order to prevent piracy.

2 time installation limit (supposedly going to be/has been raised to 5)
with spyware that calls home to make he above possible.

SAY WHAT??? COME AGAIN???

Now rootkit taken aside and just looking at the install limit, there
supposedly is a way to uninstall to regain an install token from what I
have read. Wonderful. And what if I can't? What if my hard drive fails?
What if XP dies and I need to reinstall? What if I simply buy a new
computer and throw away the old one? In none of those cases would I be
uninstalling. Will that then leave me with a $50 game I can no longer
use?

I mean seriously, where is all this heading??

After about 15 minutes reading about this I was ready to puke.

Needless to say, I did not buy it. I seriously hope that all these
companies' anti piracy measures are doing a lot to stop piracy because
they are going to need it to make up for the losses they are incurring
from people such as me who now refuse to buy their product.

It's really getting beyond ridiculous.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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learn to play the guitar(*) for music,
and start playing chess with friends..

(*) or is yamaha r6 a synth?



"Stephan Rose" <> wrote in message
news: ...
> Seriously!
>
> I mean vista is bad enough with all it's anti piracy, WGA, DRM and all
> its other assorted acronyms designed to make the customers life difficult.
>
> DVDs are a pain with their CSS and region coding.
>
> Music is riddled with DRM to prevent someone from actually listening to
> it after having purchased it.
>
> Now today, having some free time, I considered maybe going out and buying
> Bioshock. It seems interesting enough and might be fun to play for a bit.
> Before shelling out around 50 bucks though, I decided to do a little
> research first and I am glad I did.
>
> Come to find out, 50 bucks doesn't just buy me bioshock, it also buys me
> this:
>
> A rootkit which compromises security in order to prevent piracy.
>
> 2 time installation limit (supposedly going to be/has been raised to 5)
> with spyware that calls home to make he above possible.
>
> SAY WHAT??? COME AGAIN???
>
> Now rootkit taken aside and just looking at the install limit, there
> supposedly is a way to uninstall to regain an install token from what I
> have read. Wonderful. And what if I can't? What if my hard drive fails?
> What if XP dies and I need to reinstall? What if I simply buy a new
> computer and throw away the old one? In none of those cases would I be
> uninstalling. Will that then leave me with a $50 game I can no longer
> use?
>
> I mean seriously, where is all this heading??
>
> After about 15 minutes reading about this I was ready to puke.
>
> Needless to say, I did not buy it. I seriously hope that all these
> companies' anti piracy measures are doing a lot to stop piracy because
> they are going to need it to make up for the losses they are incurring
> from people such as me who now refuse to buy their product.
>
> It's really getting beyond ridiculous.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> ????????????????
> ??????????????

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:17:53 +0300, I eat vista wrote:

> learn to play the guitar(*) for music, and start playing chess with
> friends..
>
> (*) or is yamaha r6 a synth?

Neither!

http://www.somrek.net/myr6.jpg

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

������出�日�ん�����
����忘れ�������ら

yeah its bike.. that's what I suspected.. I was hopping it was a synth
though.. :-)



"Stephan Rose" <> wrote in message
news: ...
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:17:53 +0300, I eat vista wrote:
>
>> learn to play the guitar(*) for music, and start playing chess with
>> friends..
>>
>> (*) or is yamaha r6 a synth?
>
> Neither!
>
> http://www.somrek.net/myr6.jpg
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> ????????????????
> ??????????????

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:23:18 +0300, I eat vista wrote:

> yeah its bike.. that's what I suspected.. I was hopping it was a synth
> though.. :-)
>
>

Haha, well about the only musical skill I've got is listening...and that
I absolutely love to do. Particularly to artists who actually still know
what the words "Live Performance" mean and can actually do it Live and
not just lip sync.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

������出�日�ん�����
����忘れ�������ら

I always admired artists that could perform well live...

you need to be very very very good to do that. And there is a certain magic
to it.

Now with technology and recording studios you can make any sound, sound
good... its getting more and more technological...

not that it is bad... you mold the final product and shape it and transform
it..

but you have to have good input to start with.. the better the input the
better the output.

Now back to vista, how did crap-vista come out of good input (XP), its still
a mystery to me. How could they possible blunder so much?


"Stephan Rose" <> wrote in message
news: ...
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:23:18 +0300, I eat vista wrote:
>
>> yeah its bike.. that's what I suspected.. I was hopping it was a synth
>> though.. :-)
>>
>>
>
> Haha, well about the only musical skill I've got is listening...and that
> I absolutely love to do. Particularly to artists who actually still know
> what the words "Live Performance" mean and can actually do it Live and
> not just lip sync.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> ????????????????
> ??????????????

"Stephan Rose" <> wrote in message
news: ...
> Seriously!
>
> I mean vista is bad enough with all it's anti piracy, WGA, DRM and all
> its other assorted acronyms designed to make the customers life difficult.
>
> DVDs are a pain with their CSS and region coding.
>
> Music is riddled with DRM to prevent someone from actually listening to
> it after having purchased it.
>
> Now today, having some free time, I considered maybe going out and buying
> Bioshock. It seems interesting enough and might be fun to play for a bit.
> Before shelling out around 50 bucks though, I decided to do a little
> research first and I am glad I did.
>
> Come to find out, 50 bucks doesn't just buy me bioshock, it also buys me
> this:
>
> A rootkit which compromises security in order to prevent piracy.
>
> 2 time installation limit (supposedly going to be/has been raised to 5)
> with spyware that calls home to make he above possible.
>
> SAY WHAT??? COME AGAIN???
>
> Now rootkit taken aside and just looking at the install limit, there
> supposedly is a way to uninstall to regain an install token from what I
> have read. Wonderful. And what if I can't? What if my hard drive fails?
> What if XP dies and I need to reinstall? What if I simply buy a new
> computer and throw away the old one? In none of those cases would I be
> uninstalling. Will that then leave me with a $50 game I can no longer
> use?
>
> I mean seriously, where is all this heading??
>
> After about 15 minutes reading about this I was ready to puke.
>
> Needless to say, I did not buy it. I seriously hope that all these
> companies' anti piracy measures are doing a lot to stop piracy because
> they are going to need it to make up for the losses they are incurring
> from people such as me who now refuse to buy their product.


Agree 100% - I hope these companies get their just deserts.
Just like Sony, briliant hardware with great potential but
ruined by stupid corporate decisions. Hence, while Sony ****ed about
restricting users of Minidisc with their archaic decisions preventing you
from even uploading a soundtrack you had recorded yourself, MP3 players
wiped the floor with them despite their totally crappy sound quality -
simply because they didnt have the restrictions.
No doubt there'll be a pirated version of the app with none of the
restrictions you mention.
All that antipiracy measures do is cause problems for the genuine
purchasers.


> It's really getting beyond ridiculous.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> ������出�日�ん�����
> ����忘れ�������ら

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:34:05 +0300, I eat vista wrote:

> I always admired artists that could perform well live...
>
> you need to be very very very good to do that. And there is a certain
> magic to it.
>
> Now with technology and recording studios you can make any sound, sound
> good... its getting more and more technological...

I dunno, I think for the most part it just makes things sound artificial
and fake.

One of the things love about my favorite artist, Hamasaki Ayumi, is that
all her performances are 100% live and that her Albums are not very
edited. I'm sure there is some editing in her Album releases, but nothing
overly major from what I can tell compared to her live performances which
I have several of on DVD.

Now Britney Spears at the US VMA's on the other hand (I admit, I probably
couldn't have picked a more pathetic "artist" as comparison but it's the
only US performance I have seen this year)...her beyond ****-poor and
pathetic performance taken aside, her song just listening to it...just
doesn't feel right...it feels artificial. There's just no skill or talent
of any kind and no amount of editing can hide it.

>
> not that it is bad... you mold the final product and shape it and
> transform it..
>
> but you have to have good input to start with.. the better the input the
> better the output.

And as far as I am concerned, someone that actually is good doesn't need
any editing to start with. =)

>
> Now back to vista, how did crap-vista come out of good input (XP), its
> still a mystery to me. How could they possible blunder so much?

Heh...good question, don't have an answer to that. Wish I did though,
I've asked myself that question too before.



--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

������出�日�ん�����
����忘れ�������ら

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:31:43 -0500, Stephan Rose wrote:

> Seriously!
>
> I mean vista is bad enough with all it's anti piracy, WGA, DRM and all
> its other assorted acronyms designed to make the customers life difficult.
>
> DVDs are a pain with their CSS and region coding.
>
> Music is riddled with DRM to prevent someone from actually listening to
> it after having purchased it.
>
> Now today, having some free time, I considered maybe going out and buying
> Bioshock. It seems interesting enough and might be fun to play for a bit.
> Before shelling out around 50 bucks though, I decided to do a little
> research first and I am glad I did.
>
> Come to find out, 50 bucks doesn't just buy me bioshock, it also buys me
> this:
>
> A rootkit which compromises security in order to prevent piracy.
>
> 2 time installation limit (supposedly going to be/has been raised to 5)
> with spyware that calls home to make he above possible.
>
> SAY WHAT??? COME AGAIN???
>
> Now rootkit taken aside and just looking at the install limit, there
> supposedly is a way to uninstall to regain an install token from what I
> have read. Wonderful. And what if I can't? What if my hard drive fails?
> What if XP dies and I need to reinstall? What if I simply buy a new
> computer and throw away the old one? In none of those cases would I be
> uninstalling. Will that then leave me with a $50 game I can no longer
> use?
>
> I mean seriously, where is all this heading??
>
> After about 15 minutes reading about this I was ready to puke.
>
> Needless to say, I did not buy it. I seriously hope that all these
> companies' anti piracy measures are doing a lot to stop piracy because
> they are going to need it to make up for the losses they are incurring
> from people such as me who now refuse to buy their product.
>
> It's really getting beyond ridiculous.

FWIW - only one of the reasons lots of people use Linux.

Stephan Rose wrote:
> Seriously!
>
> I mean vista is bad enough with all it's anti piracy, WGA, DRM and all
> its other assorted acronyms designed to make the customers life difficult.
>
> DVDs are a pain with their CSS and region coding.
>
> Music is riddled with DRM to prevent someone from actually listening to
> it after having purchased it.
>
> Now today, having some free time, I considered maybe going out and buying
> Bioshock. It seems interesting enough and might be fun to play for a bit.
> Before shelling out around 50 bucks though, I decided to do a little
> research first and I am glad I did.
>
> Come to find out, 50 bucks doesn't just buy me bioshock, it also buys me
> this:
>
> A rootkit which compromises security in order to prevent piracy.
>
> 2 time installation limit (supposedly going to be/has been raised to 5)
> with spyware that calls home to make he above possible.
>
> SAY WHAT??? COME AGAIN???
>
> Now rootkit taken aside and just looking at the install limit, there
> supposedly is a way to uninstall to regain an install token from what I
> have read. Wonderful. And what if I can't? What if my hard drive fails?
> What if XP dies and I need to reinstall? What if I simply buy a new
> computer and throw away the old one? In none of those cases would I be
> uninstalling. Will that then leave me with a $50 game I can no longer
> use?
>
> I mean seriously, where is all this heading??
>
> After about 15 minutes reading about this I was ready to puke.
>
> Needless to say, I did not buy it. I seriously hope that all these
> companies' anti piracy measures are doing a lot to stop piracy because
> they are going to need it to make up for the losses they are incurring
> from people such as me who now refuse to buy their product.
>
> It's really getting beyond ridiculous.
>

Stephan, good news:

Fair Use Worth More to Economy Than Copyright, CCIA Says

Fair use exceptions to U.S. copyright laws account for more than $4.5
trillion in annual revenue for the United States, according to the
Computer and Communications Industry Association.

http://informationweek.com/news/show...leID=201805939

Hopefully this will get the money grubbing, greedy corporations and
associations (RIAA, MPAA, Sony, Symantec, Autodesk, Adobe, Microsoft,
etc.) to pull their collective heads out of their arses and realize they
are actually neutering their profits with DRM!

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett