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Ken Blake, MVP
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      09-24-2007
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:26:50 -0400, "Lang Murphy"
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> "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:25:18 -0400, "Lang Murphy"
> > <> wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> > ?? Microsoft Works does *not* come with Vista.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Too literal, Ken?

> >
> >
> > I don't think so at all, Lang. This is someone who is planning to buy
> > a computer with Vista, and thinks that therefore he will get a copy of
> > Microsoft Works with it. That's wrong, and if he doesn't understand
> > that, he may be surprised at what he gets.
> >
> >
> >> Surely it "comes" on some PC's that are delivered with Vista? No?

> >
> >
> > Certainly. But that's very different from saying that it comes with
> > Vista. It's the decision of the vendor who sells the computer as to
> > what he wants to bundle with it. Some computers come with no bundled
> > software, some come with Microsoft Works, some come with Microsoft
> > Office, some come with Corel WordPerfect Office, and so on, but none
> > of this software comes with Vista.
> >
> > There is a very large number of people who bought a Windows computer
> > that came with Microsoft Office, then bought a newer computer with a
> > newer version of Windows, and write to the newsgroups asking why they
> > can't find Office. They didn't understand that Office is not part of
> > any version of Windows, and the only reason they had it before is that
> > it was part of a bundled offering from *their* vendor. Exactly the
> > same is true of Works and Vista.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>
>
> Yeah, I know all that stuff... I just thought that your reply was a tad on
> the literal side without explaining the details as you have above, that's
> all...
>
> Peace, bro.



If you're saying that my reply was perhaps too curt, and I could have
explained it better, I'll grant you that.

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      01-01-2008


"goins353" wrote:

> I am thinking of purchasing a new computer with Vista. I have several old
> Microsoft Programs (Microsoft Office Professional 2000) and QuickBooks
> Professional that I'm hoping will be compatible. I have not needed to
> upgrade the softwares before but I'm not sure they will run with Vista. I'd
> hate to have to shell out for the computer AND the software at the same time.
> Has anyone attempted to run these programs under Vista? Will I need to
> uninstall the Microsoft Works that comes with the Vista? Will I need to
> install using XP compatibility mode?
>
> Thanks, any help is appreciated.

 
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larry tandy
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      01-01-2008

I have a friend using Windows XP 2002 and if he sends me a word document
attachment I cannot open it with the Vista Home Basic program. Attempts to
get response from Microsoft have been fruitless. I would not have bought the
Vista software had I thought it would be incompatible with other microsoft
software.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:26:50 -0400, "Lang Murphy"
> <> wrote:
>
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:25:18 -0400, "Lang Murphy"
> > > <> wrote:
> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > ?? Microsoft Works does *not* come with Vista.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Too literal, Ken?
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think so at all, Lang. This is someone who is planning to buy
> > > a computer with Vista, and thinks that therefore he will get a copy of
> > > Microsoft Works with it. That's wrong, and if he doesn't understand
> > > that, he may be surprised at what he gets.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Surely it "comes" on some PC's that are delivered with Vista? No?
> > >
> > >
> > > Certainly. But that's very different from saying that it comes with
> > > Vista. It's the decision of the vendor who sells the computer as to
> > > what he wants to bundle with it. Some computers come with no bundled
> > > software, some come with Microsoft Works, some come with Microsoft
> > > Office, some come with Corel WordPerfect Office, and so on, but none
> > > of this software comes with Vista.
> > >
> > > There is a very large number of people who bought a Windows computer
> > > that came with Microsoft Office, then bought a newer computer with a
> > > newer version of Windows, and write to the newsgroups asking why they
> > > can't find Office. They didn't understand that Office is not part of
> > > any version of Windows, and the only reason they had it before is that
> > > it was part of a bundled offering from *their* vendor. Exactly the
> > > same is true of Works and Vista.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> >
> >
> > Yeah, I know all that stuff... I just thought that your reply was a tad on
> > the literal side without explaining the details as you have above, that's
> > all...
> >
> > Peace, bro.

>
>
> If you're saying that my reply was perhaps too curt, and I could have
> explained it better, I'll grant you that.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

 
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David
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      01-01-2008
Well, you have to have a program installed on your computer that will open
..doc files. All Windows versions have been that way. If you don't want to
purchase Microsoft Office, you can try OpenOffice, a free program.

Or, you can try this,
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891090

But with Word Viewer you can't edit a document or create a new one.



"larry tandy" <> wrote in message
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>
> I have a friend using Windows XP 2002 and if he sends me a word document
> attachment I cannot open it with the Vista Home Basic program. Attempts to
> get response from Microsoft have been fruitless. I would not have bought
> the
> Vista software had I thought it would be incompatible with other microsoft
> software.
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:26:50 -0400, "Lang Murphy"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>> > "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
>> > news:...
>> > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:25:18 -0400, "Lang Murphy"
>> > > <> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > ?? Microsoft Works does *not* come with Vista.
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> Too literal, Ken?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I don't think so at all, Lang. This is someone who is planning to buy
>> > > a computer with Vista, and thinks that therefore he will get a copy
>> > > of
>> > > Microsoft Works with it. That's wrong, and if he doesn't understand
>> > > that, he may be surprised at what he gets.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Surely it "comes" on some PC's that are delivered with Vista? No?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Certainly. But that's very different from saying that it comes with
>> > > Vista. It's the decision of the vendor who sells the computer as to
>> > > what he wants to bundle with it. Some computers come with no bundled
>> > > software, some come with Microsoft Works, some come with Microsoft
>> > > Office, some come with Corel WordPerfect Office, and so on, but none
>> > > of this software comes with Vista.
>> > >
>> > > There is a very large number of people who bought a Windows computer
>> > > that came with Microsoft Office, then bought a newer computer with a
>> > > newer version of Windows, and write to the newsgroups asking why they
>> > > can't find Office. They didn't understand that Office is not part of
>> > > any version of Windows, and the only reason they had it before is
>> > > that
>> > > it was part of a bundled offering from *their* vendor. Exactly the
>> > > same is true of Works and Vista.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah, I know all that stuff... I just thought that your reply was a tad
>> > on
>> > the literal side without explaining the details as you have above,
>> > that's
>> > all...
>> >
>> > Peace, bro.

>>
>>
>> If you're saying that my reply was perhaps too curt, and I could have
>> explained it better, I'll grant you that.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>

 
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      01-01-2008
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 12:25:00 -0800, larry tandy
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> I have a friend using Windows XP 2002 and if he sends me a word document
> attachment I cannot open it with the Vista Home Basic program. Attempts to
> get response from Microsoft have been fruitless. I would not have bought the
> Vista software had I thought it would be incompatible with other microsoft
> software.



This has *nothing* to do with your friend's using Windows XP or with
your having bought the Vista software. Vista is *not* incompatible
with other Microsoft software, and can deal with Word documents just
fine.

Vista Home Basic is an operating system. Neither it, nor any other
operating system, can open a Word document file. To open a Word
document file (presumably a .doc file) you need to have installed a
copy of Word, or some compatible program.

If you expected Word to come with Vista, let me make it clear that
*no* version of Windows has ever included Excel, Word, PowerPoint,
Access, or any other significant application software. Such programs
have to be bought, either by themselves or as part of Microsoft
Office.

If your previous computer, running an older version of Windows, came
with one or more such programs, it was because the vendor who sold it
bundled it as part of the package he sold you, not because that
version of Windows came with it. Some, but not all, vendors do the
same with Windows Vista. Yours apparently did not.

If you want Word, you need to buy it, either alone, as part of
Microsoft Office, or, most inexpensively, as part of Microsoft Works
*Suite* (not the regular Works). Alternatively, you can acquire
another less expensive or even free word processor, such as that
included with WordPerfect Office, StarOffice, or OpenOffice (all of
those can open Word files).

And if just want to view your friend's Word files, but not modify them
or create your own, you can download the free Microsoft Word viewer
from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
or http://tinyurl.com/3qlb4

One other point: opening executable attachments (and Word files can
have embedded macros, and are therefore executable) is a very
dangerous practice. You often see advice not to open attachments from
people you don't know. I think that that's one of the most dangerous
pieces of advice you see around, because it implies that it's safe to
do the opposite--open attachments from friends and relatives. But many
viruses spread by sending themselves to everyone in the infected
party's address book, so attachments received from what purports to be
your friend are perhaps the *most* risky to open.

Even if the attachment legitimately comes from a friend, it can
contain a virus. I'm not suggesting that a friend is likely to send
you a virus on purpose, but if the friend is infected without
realizing it, any attachment he sends you is likely to also be
infected.

I never open executable attachments at all, except from a *very* few
trusted sources, and then only when I'm expecting them.

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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]
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      01-01-2008
You might need to invest in a new version of QuickBooks, at least version
2007 or later, some persons have had luck with Office 2000 on Vista. Its not
certified for Windows Vista, so it is not guaranteed that it will work
properly, just make sure you install the latest Service Pack for it. You
won't have to uninstall Microsoft Works they coexist just fine.
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"larry tandy" <> wrote in message
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>
> "goins353" wrote:
>
>> I am thinking of purchasing a new computer with Vista. I have several
>> old
>> Microsoft Programs (Microsoft Office Professional 2000) and QuickBooks
>> Professional that I'm hoping will be compatible. I have not needed to
>> upgrade the softwares before but I'm not sure they will run with Vista.
>> I'd
>> hate to have to shell out for the computer AND the software at the same
>> time.
>> Has anyone attempted to run these programs under Vista? Will I need to
>> uninstall the Microsoft Works that comes with the Vista? Will I need to
>> install using XP compatibility mode?
>>
>> Thanks, any help is appreciated.



 
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