Some questions...

Ok, I have a few posers and comments about RC1 if you'll indulge me...

1: What is with MS' obsession of moving away from the file menu? Trying to
do anything is really tricky now as either the file menu is hidden by
default or isn't there in the first place. Internet Explorer is now *really*
hard to use - the layout's dramatically changed and there aren't any obvious
configuration options such as afforementioned file menu.

2: Would I be correct in assuming there is no firewall currently available
which is entirely compatible with Vista? I have tried ZA which managed to
get about half way through the install before simply giving up the ghost.
Then there's Kerio/Subelt which doesn't even *pretend* that it's going to
try to install.

3: Why is there no 'up' button in Windows Explorer? By this I mean when you
click on 'Computer' and end up with the dialogue box with all your drives
and devices etc and start exploring through them - unlike with XP if you
wish to go up a tree rather than simply retracing your steps, you apparently
can't.

4: The 3d flipper seems to be a bit of a gimmick, but perhaps its true
functionality will shine through in time.

5: It is a very nice looking OS and it's extremely quick - definitely
progress being made on those 2 fronts.

6: Not sure what I make of the new style programs menu/system from the start
menu.

7: I've had one crash so far, kind of. I installed the Nvidia drivers and
the screen went black although I could hit ctrl/alt/del to bring up the
menu - unfortunately none of the choices worked. Was forced into a hard
reset.

8: Why, when you finally successfully installed said drivers, are there no
advanced options in display properties? I was expecting to see the usual
Nvidia control panel.

Thanks for any responses.

2. The Vista firewall is two-way.

3. The Up button has changed to the breadcrumbs bar. You can now step
directly up several levels by clicking however far left you want to go in
the breadcrumbs. If the path is long, there is a chevron to the left that
allows you further navigation upwards in the tree. The breadcrumbs now make
it possible to do multistep up moves with a single click. Of course, if you
want to proceed one level at a time as you do in XP you may do so by
clicking left one place at a time in the breadcrumb bar.

"Danny" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Ok, I have a few posers and comments about RC1 if you'll indulge me...
>
> 1: What is with MS' obsession of moving away from the file menu? Trying to
> do anything is really tricky now as either the file menu is hidden by
> default or isn't there in the first place. Internet Explorer is now
> *really* hard to use - the layout's dramatically changed and there aren't
> any obvious configuration options such as afforementioned file menu.
>
> 2: Would I be correct in assuming there is no firewall currently available
> which is entirely compatible with Vista? I have tried ZA which managed to
> get about half way through the install before simply giving up the ghost.
> Then there's Kerio/Subelt which doesn't even *pretend* that it's going to
> try to install.
>
> 3: Why is there no 'up' button in Windows Explorer? By this I mean when
> you click on 'Computer' and end up with the dialogue box with all your
> drives and devices etc and start exploring through them - unlike with XP
> if you wish to go up a tree rather than simply retracing your steps, you
> apparently can't.
>
> 4: The 3d flipper seems to be a bit of a gimmick, but perhaps its true
> functionality will shine through in time.
>
> 5: It is a very nice looking OS and it's extremely quick - definitely
> progress being made on those 2 fronts.
>
> 6: Not sure what I make of the new style programs menu/system from the
> start menu.
>
> 7: I've had one crash so far, kind of. I installed the Nvidia drivers and
> the screen went black although I could hit ctrl/alt/del to bring up the
> menu - unfortunately none of the choices worked. Was forced into a hard
> reset.
>
> 8: Why, when you finally successfully installed said drivers, are there no
> advanced options in display properties? I was expecting to see the usual
> Nvidia control panel.
>
> Thanks for any responses.

"Danny" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Ok, I have a few posers and comments about RC1 if you'll indulge me...
>
> 1: What is with MS' obsession of moving away from the file menu? Trying to
> do anything is really tricky now as either the file menu is hidden by
> default or isn't there in the first place. Internet Explorer is now
> *really* hard to use - the layout's dramatically changed and there aren't
> any obvious configuration options such as afforementioned file menu.

For IE7, go to tools and put a tick in menu bar. You now get your file bar
back.

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:...
> 2. The Vista firewall is two-way.

I prefer not to use MS' own programs of this type.

>
> 3. The Up button has changed to the breadcrumbs bar. You can now step
> directly up several levels by clicking however far left you want to go in
> the breadcrumbs. If the path is long, there is a chevron to the left that
> allows you further navigation upwards in the tree. The breadcrumbs now
> make it possible to do multistep up moves with a single click. Of course,
> if you want to proceed one level at a time as you do in XP you may do so
> by clicking left one place at a time in the breadcrumb bar.
>

I have absolutely no idea what you mean by 'breadcrumbs' bar. That's a new
one to me.

Thanks for replying.

"Danny" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Ok, I have a few posers and comments about RC1 if you'll indulge me...
>
> 1: What is with MS' obsession of moving away from the file menu? Trying to
> do anything is really tricky now as either the file menu is hidden by
> default or isn't there in the first place. Internet Explorer is now
> *really* hard to use - the layout's dramatically changed and there aren't
> any obvious configuration options such as afforementioned file menu.
>
> 2: Would I be correct in assuming there is no firewall currently available
> which is entirely compatible with Vista? I have tried ZA which managed to
> get about half way through the install before simply giving up the ghost.
> Then there's Kerio/Subelt which doesn't even *pretend* that it's going to
> try to install.
>
> 3: Why is there no 'up' button in Windows Explorer? By this I mean when
> you click on 'Computer' and end up with the dialogue box with all your
> drives and devices etc and start exploring through them - unlike with XP
> if you wish to go up a tree rather than simply retracing your steps, you
> apparently can't.
>
> 4: The 3d flipper seems to be a bit of a gimmick, but perhaps its true
> functionality will shine through in time.
>
> 5: It is a very nice looking OS and it's extremely quick - definitely
> progress being made on those 2 fronts.
>
> 6: Not sure what I make of the new style programs menu/system from the
> start menu.
>
> 7: I've had one crash so far, kind of. I installed the Nvidia drivers and
> the screen went black although I could hit ctrl/alt/del to bring up the
> menu - unfortunately none of the choices worked. Was forced into a hard
> reset.
>
> 8: Why, when you finally successfully installed said drivers, are there no
> advanced options in display properties? I was expecting to see the usual
> Nvidia control panel.
>
> Thanks for any responses.

One extra point; why does 'system idle process' constantly want to hog my
CPU? I find my HD LED blinking like mad every so often and I can hear disk
access, then a quick check of task manager reveals about 80%+ of the CPU
being used by SIP.

"Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Danny" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Ok, I have a few posers and comments about RC1 if you'll indulge me...
>>
>> 1: What is with MS' obsession of moving away from the file menu? Trying
>> to do anything is really tricky now as either the file menu is hidden by
>> default or isn't there in the first place. Internet Explorer is now
>> *really* hard to use - the layout's dramatically changed and there aren't
>> any obvious configuration options such as afforementioned file menu.
>
> For IE7, go to tools and put a tick in menu bar. You now get your file
> bar back.

I looked for tools and couldn't see it. Then just right clicked on the bar
at the top and hey presto, I found the option. Cheers.

"Danny" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:...
>> 2. The Vista firewall is two-way.
>
> I prefer not to use MS' own programs of this type.
>
>>
>> 3. The Up button has changed to the breadcrumbs bar. You can now step
>> directly up several levels by clicking however far left you want to go in
>> the breadcrumbs. If the path is long, there is a chevron to the left
>> that allows you further navigation upwards in the tree. The breadcrumbs
>> now make it possible to do multistep up moves with a single click. Of
>> course, if you want to proceed one level at a time as you do in XP you
>> may do so by clicking left one place at a time in the breadcrumb bar.
>>
>
> I have absolutely no idea what you mean by 'breadcrumbs' bar. That's a new
> one to me.

I think breadcrumbs refers to the folder bar navigation down the left pane.

I think what Colin meant is the equivalent sort of, to the address bar in IE
that allows the breadcrumb navigation.
dotcom

"Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Danny" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> 2. The Vista firewall is two-way.
>>
>> I prefer not to use MS' own programs of this type.
>>
>>>
>>> 3. The Up button has changed to the breadcrumbs bar. You can now step
>>> directly up several levels by clicking however far left you want to go
>>> in the breadcrumbs. If the path is long, there is a chevron to the left
>>> that allows you further navigation upwards in the tree. The breadcrumbs
>>> now make it possible to do multistep up moves with a single click. Of
>>> course, if you want to proceed one level at a time as you do in XP you
>>> may do so by clicking left one place at a time in the breadcrumb bar.
>>>
>>
>> I have absolutely no idea what you mean by 'breadcrumbs' bar. That's a
>> new one to me.
>
> I think breadcrumbs refers to the folder bar navigation down the left
> pane.

No it doesn't. I will post a new thread on it. The breadcrumb bar is the
bar across the top that looks like an address bar.

"Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Danny" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> 2. The Vista firewall is two-way.
>>
>> I prefer not to use MS' own programs of this type.
>>
>>>
>>> 3. The Up button has changed to the breadcrumbs bar. You can now step
>>> directly up several levels by clicking however far left you want to go
>>> in the breadcrumbs. If the path is long, there is a chevron to the left
>>> that allows you further navigation upwards in the tree. The breadcrumbs
>>> now make it possible to do multistep up moves with a single click. Of
>>> course, if you want to proceed one level at a time as you do in XP you
>>> may do so by clicking left one place at a time in the breadcrumb bar.
>>>
>>
>> I have absolutely no idea what you mean by 'breadcrumbs' bar. That's a
>> new one to me.
>
> I think breadcrumbs refers to the folder bar navigation down the left
> pane.

"Danny" <> wrote in message
news:O$...
>
> "Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> "Danny" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Ok, I have a few posers and comments about RC1 if you'll indulge me...
>>>
>>> 1: What is with MS' obsession of moving away from the file menu? Trying
>>> to do anything is really tricky now as either the file menu is hidden by
>>> default or isn't there in the first place. Internet Explorer is now
>>> *really* hard to use - the layout's dramatically changed and there
>>> aren't any obvious configuration options such as afforementioned file
>>> menu.
>>
>> For IE7, go to tools and put a tick in menu bar. You now get your file
>> bar back.
>
> I looked for tools and couldn't see it. Then just right clicked on the bar
> at the top and hey presto, I found the option. Cheers.

Is that Danny from FUKBB ??