Sorting order problem

I've got a folder which I've got set to sort by name, ascending.

There is no grouping or stacking specified.

I've just added a new file to the folder, named 070804CC.JPG.

Rather than appearing among the other files beginning with 0708, it appears
immediately below the last folder in this folder, and above a file named
07010101.JPG. That is, it appears as the first FILE in the folder.

This isn't the first time this has happened. I just happened to have this
news group open when it happened this time.

Perhaps related to this, this is on my D drive. Another problem I have on
the D drive which I don't see on C is that when I change something, as in
edit a picture, put things into a folder, etc., the depiction of the item
in the folder doesn't update automatically. I continue to see the thumbnail
for the file before I altered it, the folder I just put things into
continues to show as empty, deleted files still appear, renamed files still
show as their former names. All this until I refresh the folder.

Any ideas on either issue?

- Bill

I've noticed this is a new method of sorting by Vista

It now sorts numbers numerically

001
02
3
10

Instead of XP sorting numbers alphabetically

001
02
10
3


"Bill Leary" <> wrote in message
news:025AABB4-3402-4273-B5A2-...
> I've got a folder which I've got set to sort by name, ascending.
>
> There is no grouping or stacking specified.
>
> I've just added a new file to the folder, named 070804CC.JPG.
>
> Rather than appearing among the other files beginning with 0708, it
> appears immediately below the last folder in this folder, and above a file
> named 07010101.JPG. That is, it appears as the first FILE in the folder.
>
> This isn't the first time this has happened. I just happened to have this
> news group open when it happened this time.
>
> Perhaps related to this, this is on my D drive. Another problem I have on
> the D drive which I don't see on C is that when I change something, as in
> edit a picture, put things into a folder, etc., the depiction of the item
> in the folder doesn't update automatically. I continue to see the
> thumbnail for the file before I altered it, the folder I just put things
> into continues to show as empty, deleted files still appear, renamed files
> still show as their former names. All this until I refresh the folder.
>
> Any ideas on either issue?
>
> - Bill
>

P.S Incase you are wondering

070804 (evaluates to 00070804) is smaller than 07010101 and why it appears
before it

You can stick a couple zeros on the end so it appears where you expect it
to: e.g. 7080400

"JethroUK©" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> I've noticed this is a new method of sorting by Vista
>
> It now sorts numbers numerically
>
> 001
> 02
> 3
> 10
>
> Instead of XP sorting numbers alphabetically
>
> 001
> 02
> 10
> 3
>
>
> "Bill Leary" <> wrote in message
> news:025AABB4-3402-4273-B5A2-...
>> I've got a folder which I've got set to sort by name, ascending.
>>
>> There is no grouping or stacking specified.
>>
>> I've just added a new file to the folder, named 070804CC.JPG.
>>
>> Rather than appearing among the other files beginning with 0708, it
>> appears immediately below the last folder in this folder, and above a
>> file named 07010101.JPG. That is, it appears as the first FILE in the
>> folder.
>>
>> This isn't the first time this has happened. I just happened to have
>> this news group open when it happened this time.
>>
>> Perhaps related to this, this is on my D drive. Another problem I have
>> on the D drive which I don't see on C is that when I change something, as
>> in edit a picture, put things into a folder, etc., the depiction of the
>> item in the folder doesn't update automatically. I continue to see the
>> thumbnail for the file before I altered it, the folder I just put things
>> into continues to show as empty, deleted files still appear, renamed
>> files still show as their former names. All this until I refresh the
>> folder.
>>
>> Any ideas on either issue?
>>
>> - Bill
>>
>

"JethroUK©" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> I've noticed this is a new method of sorting by Vista
>
> It now sorts numbers numerically
>
> 001
> 02
> 3
> 10
>
> Instead of XP sorting numbers alphabetically
>
> 001
> 02
> 10
> 3

Interesting.

And I imagine there's no way to turn this foolishness off either, eh?

- Bill

"Bill Leary" <> wrote in message
newsCDE8243-CF68-4AC7-87F7-...
> "JethroUK©" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> I've noticed this is a new method of sorting by Vista
>>
>> It now sorts numbers numerically
>>
>> 001
>> 02
>> 3
>> 10
>>
>> Instead of XP sorting numbers alphabetically
>>
>> 001
>> 02
>> 10
>> 3
>
> Interesting.
>
> And I imagine there's no way to turn this foolishness off either, eh?
>
> - Bill
>


I don't suppose we can hold back progress but I found a useful tool that
might help

http://www.snapfiles.com/get/denrenamer.html

It renames huuuuuge batches of files - You won't beleive how fast it is
(compared to windows) - I've used most features and it's really easy to
use - and it's free

"JethroUK©" <> wrote in message
news:eFRE$...
> "Bill Leary" <> wrote in message
>> And I imagine there's no way to turn this foolishness off either, eh?
>
> I don't suppose we can hold back progress

I'd be prepared to debate that this is "progress." But passing that...

> but I found a useful tool that might help
>
> http://www.snapfiles.com/get/denrenamer.html

Looks interesting. I've downloaded it and will have a go at it.

The problem here, of course, it that I didn't want to pick another name for
the file. The one it had was meaningful in it's context.

- Bill

I think this article may help.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319827
--
Paul


"Bill Leary" wrote:

> "JethroUK" <> wrote in message
> news:eFRE$...
> > "Bill Leary" <> wrote in message
> >> And I imagine there's no way to turn this foolishness off either, eh?
> >
> > I don't suppose we can hold back progress
>
> I'd be prepared to debate that this is "progress." But passing that...
>
> > but I found a useful tool that might help
> >
> > http://www.snapfiles.com/get/denrenamer.html
>
> Looks interesting. I've downloaded it and will have a go at it.
>
> The problem here, of course, it that I didn't want to pick another name for
> the file. The one it had was meaningful in it's context.
>
> - Bill
>

"PaulB" <> wrote in message
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>I think this article may help.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319827

Much better. Thanks.

- Bill

"Bill Leary" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "PaulB" <> wrote in message
> news:78B54E93-1120-4ADE-A983-...
>>I think this article may help.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319827
>
> Much better. Thanks.
>
> - Bill
>

Had I not seen the article, i would've sworn XP still sorted numbers
alphabetically - namely because i noticed this virtually instantly upon
using Vista - and here M.S are basically saying 'it's been that way for
ages' - surely not

"JethroUK©" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Had I not seen the article, i would've sworn XP still sorted numbers
> alphabetically - namely because i noticed this virtually instantly upon
> using Vista - and here M.S are basically saying 'it's been that way for
> ages' - surely not

For my home machine here I went from ME to Vista Ultimate. Most of the
machines I use at work are 2000. So I've had very little exposure to XP.
However, when I mentioned this to my son, who's been using XP exclusively
for a couple of years, he said something like "Oh, yeah. You can fix that
in the registry."

- Bill