SP 1 Installation -- T O T A L D I S A S T E R

Being very smug since all previous Vista Ultimate updates have installed
flawlessly (except for the Windows Live Toolbar security update that repeatedly
refuses to install), I downloaded and attempted to install the stand alone SP1
pack (since it was not offered on Windows update at around 5pm EST).

I had read the installation problem Microsoft web page that was provided by a
poster in the general newsgroup this morning, and since none of the hardware
that could cause problems with the installation were on my system, I was
confident that I would have no problems.

The installation seemed to go fine. There was one reboot, and during the next
phase after a rather lengthy time, the screen said that the installation had
failed and any changes were being rolled back.

Upon reboot, a message came up that said ntldr.exe could not be found and to
insert the installation DVD and do a start up repair.

The start up repair from the DVD took about a half an hour, and finally came up
with the message that it could not repair the system

I booted up again, and chose a normal boot up. Vista DID boot normally.

I checked Problem Reports and Solutions and there were 785 problems

There were 6 problems.that cannot be deleted, all which were related to the HP
PhotoSmart inf files.

I uninstalled the PhotoSmart printer, .attempted the SP1 install again. But
sadly with the same failure, 453 errors in Problem Reports and Solutions and
and the same 6 problems that cannot be deleted.


I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!

"Cal Bear '66" <> wrote in message
news:734D8743-A158-4FC8-AC85-...
> Being very smug since all previous Vista Ultimate updates have installed
> flawlessly (except for the Windows Live Toolbar security update that
> repeatedly refuses to install), I downloaded and attempted to install the
> stand alone SP1 pack (since it was not offered on Windows update at around
> 5pm EST).
>
> I had read the installation problem Microsoft web page that was provided
> by a poster in the general newsgroup this morning, and since none of the
> hardware that could cause problems with the installation were on my
> system, I was confident that I would have no problems.
>
> The installation seemed to go fine. There was one reboot, and during the
> next phase after a rather lengthy time, the screen said that the
> installation had failed and any changes were being rolled back.
>
> Upon reboot, a message came up that said ntldr.exe could not be found and
> to insert the installation DVD and do a start up repair.
>
> The start up repair from the DVD took about a half an hour, and finally
> came up with the message that it could not repair the system
>
> I booted up again, and chose a normal boot up. Vista DID boot normally.
>
> I checked Problem Reports and Solutions and there were 785 problems
>
> There were 6 problems.that cannot be deleted, all which were related to
> the HP PhotoSmart inf files.
>
> I uninstalled the PhotoSmart printer, .attempted the SP1 install again.
> But sadly with the same failure, 453 errors in Problem Reports and
> Solutions and and the same 6 problems that cannot be deleted.
>
>
> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> GO BEARS!
>
>
>

Cal Bear,

Have you tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821

I read about it in one of Mr. Frisch's threads. I don't know if it will
help you.

C.B.


--
It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged
and unfortunate among us.

a shot in the dark, but did you disable antivirus and antispyware software
during the update?

"C.B." <> wrote in message
news:076DD4A8-DBC7-451E-8D5D-...
>
>
> "Cal Bear '66" <> wrote in message
> news:734D8743-A158-4FC8-AC85-...
>> Being very smug since all previous Vista Ultimate updates have installed
>> flawlessly (except for the Windows Live Toolbar security update that
>> repeatedly refuses to install), I downloaded and attempted to install the
>> stand alone SP1 pack (since it was not offered on Windows update at
>> around 5pm EST).
>>
>> I had read the installation problem Microsoft web page that was provided
>> by a poster in the general newsgroup this morning, and since none of the
>> hardware that could cause problems with the installation were on my
>> system, I was confident that I would have no problems.
>>
>> The installation seemed to go fine. There was one reboot, and during the
>> next phase after a rather lengthy time, the screen said that the
>> installation had failed and any changes were being rolled back.
>>
>> Upon reboot, a message came up that said ntldr.exe could not be found and
>> to insert the installation DVD and do a start up repair.
>>
>> The start up repair from the DVD took about a half an hour, and finally
>> came up with the message that it could not repair the system
>>
>> I booted up again, and chose a normal boot up. Vista DID boot normally.
>>
>> I checked Problem Reports and Solutions and there were 785 problems
>>
>> There were 6 problems.that cannot be deleted, all which were related to
>> the HP PhotoSmart inf files.
>>
>> I uninstalled the PhotoSmart printer, .attempted the SP1 install again.
>> But sadly with the same failure, 453 errors in Problem Reports and
>> Solutions and and the same 6 problems that cannot be deleted.
>>
>>
>> I Bleed Blue and Gold
>> GO BEARS!
>>
>>
>>
>
> Cal Bear,
>
> Have you tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821
>
> I read about it in one of Mr. Frisch's threads. I don't know if it will
> help you.
>
> C.B.
>
>
> --
> It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged
> and unfortunate among us.

wait wait sp1 should fix all the dam problems. Check your disk space.
"Cal Bear '66" <> wrote in message
news:734D8743-A158-4FC8-AC85-...
> Being very smug since all previous Vista Ultimate updates have installed
> flawlessly (except for the Windows Live Toolbar security update that
> repeatedly refuses to install), I downloaded and attempted to install the
> stand alone SP1 pack (since it was not offered on Windows update at around
> 5pm EST).
>
> I had read the installation problem Microsoft web page that was provided
> by a poster in the general newsgroup this morning, and since none of the
> hardware that could cause problems with the installation were on my
> system, I was confident that I would have no problems.
>
> The installation seemed to go fine. There was one reboot, and during the
> next phase after a rather lengthy time, the screen said that the
> installation had failed and any changes were being rolled back.
>
> Upon reboot, a message came up that said ntldr.exe could not be found and
> to insert the installation DVD and do a start up repair.
>
> The start up repair from the DVD took about a half an hour, and finally
> came up with the message that it could not repair the system
>
> I booted up again, and chose a normal boot up. Vista DID boot normally.
>
> I checked Problem Reports and Solutions and there were 785 problems
>
> There were 6 problems.that cannot be deleted, all which were related to
> the HP PhotoSmart inf files.
>
> I uninstalled the PhotoSmart printer, .attempted the SP1 install again.
> But sadly with the same failure, 453 errors in Problem Reports and
> Solutions and and the same 6 problems that cannot be deleted.
>
>
> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> GO BEARS!
>
>
>

Actually, it is much better to use Windows Update to install SP1.

1) Windows Update will scan and offer any updated drivers that are
recommended prior to installing the SP. It is safer/better for most people
to use Windows Update.

2) The update is typically 65MB or a little bit more, whereas the full
download link is much larger (434 MB). Windows Update downloads a special
compressed format, but it builds up a FULL copy on your hard disk just
exactly like the standalone download before beginning the install process.
So in effect, the actual SP install works the same.

Visit:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9-101a3754bad6
if you want to learn more about the binary delta compression utilized by
Windows Update.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------

"Cal Bear '66" wrote:

Being very smug since all previous Vista Ultimate updates have installed
flawlessly (except for the Windows Live Toolbar security update that repeatedly
refuses to install), I downloaded and attempted to install the stand alone SP1
pack (since it was not offered on Windows update at around 5pm EST).

I had read the installation problem Microsoft web page that was provided by a
poster in the general newsgroup this morning, and since none of the hardware
that could cause problems with the installation were on my system, I was
confident that I would have no problems.

The installation seemed to go fine. There was one reboot, and during the next
phase after a rather lengthy time, the screen said that the installation had
failed and any changes were being rolled back.

Upon reboot, a message came up that said ntldr.exe could not be found and to
insert the installation DVD and do a start up repair.

The start up repair from the DVD took about a half an hour, and finally came up
with the message that it could not repair the system

I booted up again, and chose a normal boot up. Vista DID boot normally.

I checked Problem Reports and Solutions and there were 785 problems

There were 6 problems.that cannot be deleted, all which were related to the HP
PhotoSmart inf files.

I uninstalled the PhotoSmart printer, .attempted the SP1 install again. But
sadly with the same failure, 453 errors in Problem Reports and Solutions and
and the same 6 problems that cannot be deleted.


I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!

I am not at my Vista (ultimate 64 bit) computer at the moment, so I can't
double check.
BUT.... I earlier downloaded a 14Mb update that obviously prepared my system
to cope with the SP1 update, and then almost immediately it offered another
update, this time SP1 (that wasn't there before the above update), and (this
is my point) I could have sworn that the download size was 700+Mb.
Or am I going gaga and it was only 70?

Phypps


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Actually, it is much better to use Windows Update to install SP1.
>
> 1) Windows Update will scan and offer any updated drivers that are
> recommended prior to installing the SP. It is safer/better for most people
> to use Windows Update.
>
> 2) The update is typically 65MB or a little bit more, whereas the full
> download link is much larger (434 MB). Windows Update downloads a special
> compressed format, but it builds up a FULL copy on your hard disk just
> exactly like the standalone download before beginning the install process.
> So in effect, the actual SP install works the same.
>
> Visit:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9-101a3754bad6
> if you want to learn more about the binary delta compression utilized by
> Windows Update.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Cal Bear '66" wrote:
>
> Being very smug since all previous Vista Ultimate updates have installed
> flawlessly (except for the Windows Live Toolbar security update that
> repeatedly
> refuses to install), I downloaded and attempted to install the stand alone
> SP1
> pack (since it was not offered on Windows update at around 5pm EST).
>
> I had read the installation problem Microsoft web page that was provided
> by a
> poster in the general newsgroup this morning, and since none of the
> hardware
> that could cause problems with the installation were on my system, I was
> confident that I would have no problems.
>
> The installation seemed to go fine. There was one reboot, and during the
> next
> phase after a rather lengthy time, the screen said that the installation
> had
> failed and any changes were being rolled back.
>
> Upon reboot, a message came up that said ntldr.exe could not be found and
> to
> insert the installation DVD and do a start up repair.
>
> The start up repair from the DVD took about a half an hour, and finally
> came up
> with the message that it could not repair the system
>
> I booted up again, and chose a normal boot up. Vista DID boot normally.
>
> I checked Problem Reports and Solutions and there were 785 problems
>
> There were 6 problems.that cannot be deleted, all which were related to
> the HP
> PhotoSmart inf files.
>
> I uninstalled the PhotoSmart printer, .attempted the SP1 install again.
> But
> sadly with the same failure, 453 errors in Problem Reports and Solutions
> and
> and the same 6 problems that cannot be deleted.
>
>
> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> GO BEARS!

Thanks,

Yes I did try that. Trying to run it, it said "Does Not Apply to Your System".

(Ultimate x86)

Thank you again.


I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


> Cal Bear,
>
> Have you tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821
>
> I read about it in one of Mr. Frisch's threads. I don't know if it will
> help you.
>
> C.B.
>
>
> --
> It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged and
> unfortunate among us.

Actually the 434 MB download went amazingly fast -- about 10 min. or so.

My system seems to be working just fine, although I have not yet run all my
programs or used all the OS's features (DVD burning, etc.).

Any idea how I can remove the 6 problems from Problem Reports and Solutions that
I am not allowed to delete. They all pertain to the HP PhotoSmart printer which
I have uninstalled and not yet reinstalled (in truth HP provided a newer driver
last week, from ver. 9 to ver. 10). I know this is just cosmetic, but I would
like to remove them.

Thank you for your response.


I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Actually, it is much better to use Windows Update to install SP1.
>
> 1) Windows Update will scan and offer any updated drivers that are
> recommended prior to installing the SP. It is safer/better for most people
> to use Windows Update.
>
> 2) The update is typically 65MB or a little bit more, whereas the full
> download link is much larger (434 MB). Windows Update downloads a special
> compressed format, but it builds up a FULL copy on your hard disk just
> exactly like the standalone download before beginning the install process.
> So in effect, the actual SP install works the same.
>
> Visit:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9-101a3754bad6
> if you want to learn more about the binary delta compression utilized by
> Windows Update.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User

Yes -- Avast (persistent disable)
..

I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


"Not Me" <> wrote in message
news:%...
>a shot in the dark, but did you disable antivirus and antispyware software
>during the update?
>

LOTS of empty disk space -- 100GB


I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


"BigJim" <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> wait wait sp1 should fix all the dam problems. Check your disk space.


> "Cal Bear '66" <> wrote in message
> news:734D8743-A158-4FC8-AC85-...
>> Being very smug since all previous Vista Ultimate updates have installed
>> flawlessly (except for the Windows Live Toolbar security update that
>> repeatedly refuses to install), I downloaded and attempted to install the
>> stand alone SP1 pack (since it was not offered on Windows update at around
>> 5pm EST).
>>
>> I had read the installation problem Microsoft web page that was provided by a
>> poster in the general newsgroup this morning, and since none of the hardware
>> that could cause problems with the installation were on my system, I was
>> confident that I would have no problems.
>>
>> The installation seemed to go fine. There was one reboot, and during the
>> next phase after a rather lengthy time, the screen said that the installation
>> had failed and any changes were being rolled back.
>>
>> Upon reboot, a message came up that said ntldr.exe could not be found and to
>> insert the installation DVD and do a start up repair.
>>
>> The start up repair from the DVD took about a half an hour, and finally came
>> up with the message that it could not repair the system
>>
>> I booted up again, and chose a normal boot up. Vista DID boot normally.
>>
>> I checked Problem Reports and Solutions and there were 785 problems
>>
>> There were 6 problems.that cannot be deleted, all which were related to the
>> HP PhotoSmart inf files.
>>
>> I uninstalled the PhotoSmart printer, .attempted the SP1 install again. But
>> sadly with the same failure, 453 errors in Problem Reports and Solutions and
>> and the same 6 problems that cannot be deleted.
>>
>>
>> I Bleed Blue and Gold
>> GO BEARS!
>>
>>
>>
>