SP1 - big disappointment for me

I have been hanging on with Vista in case SP1 fixed all the bugs and have
been running it for a few days now - but still the big problems persist - I
still get random catastrophic USB failures. Seems that Vista just cannot
cope with multiple USB connections as well as XP can.

The folder settinsg seem to get remembered a bit better now, but I still
cannot understand the "logic" which decides what folders are opened with
what settings. They just seem totally random to me, bearing no relation to
the content. At least now the manual changes are remembered until the next
time though.....

It is still dismally slow to reboot.

And still the annoying "permission required" warnings when I want to delete
something obviously redundant (eg leftover foldes from uninstalled
software).

Still too much bloat and incompatibility with other microsoft products (eg
microsoft fingerprint reader and sidebar do not coexist without conflict,
windows fax files are not included in Vista backups and you can't move the
fax default folder to somewhere that is included in backups without crashing
fax, DEP still prevents downloading of jpeg movies from a microsoft
telephone via microsoft mobile device center, and liveone care still not
properly compatible with Vista).

If Microsoft can't even make their own products compatible with one another
then it is no surprise that Vista does not work with a whole load of other
perfectly good software. DISASTER!!!

I'm now taking the plunge to format and reinstall everything on XP. Thank
you Microsoft for wasting my time!!!

"Rich T" <> wrote in message
news:28D7D05A-7C6F-4055-BC22-...

> I'm now taking the plunge to format and reinstall everything on XP. Thank
> you Microsoft for wasting my time!!!
>
No, thanks for wasting our time.

Free SP1 technical support from Microsoft:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...4&gprid=500921


--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows System & Performance

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"Rich T" wrote:

I have been hanging on with Vista in case SP1 fixed all the bugs and have
been running it for a few days now - but still the big problems persist - I
still get random catastrophic USB failures. Seems that Vista just cannot
cope with multiple USB connections as well as XP can.

The folder settinsg seem to get remembered a bit better now, but I still
cannot understand the "logic" which decides what folders are opened with
what settings. They just seem totally random to me, bearing no relation to
the content. At least now the manual changes are remembered until the next
time though.....

It is still dismally slow to reboot.

And still the annoying "permission required" warnings when I want to delete
something obviously redundant (eg leftover foldes from uninstalled
software).

Still too much bloat and incompatibility with other microsoft products (eg
microsoft fingerprint reader and sidebar do not coexist without conflict,
windows fax files are not included in Vista backups and you can't move the
fax default folder to somewhere that is included in backups without crashing
fax, DEP still prevents downloading of jpeg movies from a microsoft
telephone via microsoft mobile device center, and liveone care still not
properly compatible with Vista).

If Microsoft can't even make their own products compatible with one another
then it is no surprise that Vista does not work with a whole load of other
perfectly good software. DISASTER!!!

I'm now taking the plunge to format and reinstall everything on XP. Thank
you Microsoft for wasting my time!!!

"Dave" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Rich T" <> wrote in message
> news:28D7D05A-7C6F-4055-BC22-...
>
>> I'm now taking the plunge to format and reinstall everything on XP. Thank
>> you Microsoft for wasting my time!!!
>>
> No, thanks for wasting our time.

It was not a waste of time. Some of us actually learned something! Speak for
yourself.

"Dave" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Rich T" <> wrote in message
> news:28D7D05A-7C6F-4055-BC22-...
>
>> I'm now taking the plunge to format and reinstall everything on XP. Thank
>> you Microsoft for wasting my time!!!
>>
> No, thanks for wasting our time.
>
>

oh that's right, this is strictly the cheerleading section.
thanks for reminding us...

"Rich T" <> wrote in message
news:28D7D05A-7C6F-4055-BC22-...

> I have been hanging on with Vista in case SP1 fixed all the bugs and have
> been running it for a few days now - but still the big problems persist -
> I still get random catastrophic USB failures. Seems that Vista just cannot
> cope with multiple USB connections as well as XP can.

I have the following USB devices on Vista SP1 (they worked fine pre-SP1 as
well)

Keyboard
Mouse
IR Receiver for Media Center Remote
Seagate FreeAgent external USB drive
iPod
Digital Camera
HP Laserjet 1020
HP Photo Printer
Epson Perfection 1600 Scanner
Various thumb drives

Never a problem at all with them. It may only be your motherboard, or one
of your devices that's part of the problem anyway.

"Chupacabra" <> wrote in message
news:e$...
> "Rich T" <> wrote in message
> news:28D7D05A-7C6F-4055-BC22-...
>
>> I have been hanging on with Vista in case SP1 fixed all the bugs and have
>> been running it for a few days now - but still the big problems persist -
>> I still get random catastrophic USB failures. Seems that Vista just
>> cannot cope with multiple USB connections as well as XP can.
>
> I have the following USB devices on Vista SP1 (they worked fine pre-SP1 as
> well)
>
> Keyboard
> Mouse
> IR Receiver for Media Center Remote
> Seagate FreeAgent external USB drive
> iPod
> Digital Camera
> HP Laserjet 1020
> HP Photo Printer
> Epson Perfection 1600 Scanner
> Various thumb drives
>
> Never a problem at all with them. It may only be your motherboard, or one
> of your devices that's part of the problem anyway.
>
>

Hi,
I don't have nearly as many USB devices as you do - external HD, wireless
mouse, Palm device when Hotsyncing, Canon printer - but I have no problems
either. These complaints come up all the time and as usual, there is lots
of information missing. Off the top of my head I wonder if his computer
originally had XP installed, and if so, did he upgrade the BIOS to a Vista
compatible versions. I had to do that with my Gateway.

Anyway, Vista always gets blamed for the problems. It works for me and I
shan't be returning to XP, even though it was a great OS.

One other thing, I think that the OP was grasping at straws when he thought
the SP would fix a poorly running computer. That MIGHT have worked if his
problem related to missing or corrupted files that were replaced by the SP.

5 usb hard drives, 4 printers, keyboard, mouse, 2 webcams, a couple ipods
(sometimes) 2 card readers, Axim Dock. It all used to give me fits with XP,
never had an issue with Vista.


"Chupacabra" <> wrote in message
news:e$...
> "Rich T" <> wrote in message
> news:28D7D05A-7C6F-4055-BC22-...
>
>> I have been hanging on with Vista in case SP1 fixed all the bugs and have
>> been running it for a few days now - but still the big problems persist -
>> I still get random catastrophic USB failures. Seems that Vista just
>> cannot cope with multiple USB connections as well as XP can.
>
> I have the following USB devices on Vista SP1 (they worked fine pre-SP1 as
> well)
>
> Keyboard
> Mouse
> IR Receiver for Media Center Remote
> Seagate FreeAgent external USB drive
> iPod
> Digital Camera
> HP Laserjet 1020
> HP Photo Printer
> Epson Perfection 1600 Scanner
> Various thumb drives
>
> Never a problem at all with them. It may only be your motherboard, or one
> of your devices that's part of the problem anyway.
>
>

"Chupacabra" <> wrote in message
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> I have the following USB devices on Vista SP1 (they worked fine pre-SP1 as
> well)
> Seagate FreeAgent external USB drive

Do you happen to use 64-bit Vista? I am looking at getting one of these
drives and would like to know if they are fully compatible with Vista x64.

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> I don't have nearly as many USB devices as you do - external HD, wireless
> mouse, Palm device when Hotsyncing, Canon printer - but I have no problems
> either. These complaints come up all the time and as usual, there is lots
> of information missing. Off the top of my head I wonder if his computer
> originally had XP installed, and if so, did he upgrade the BIOS to a Vista
> compatible versions. I had to do that with my Gateway.

Yes, I did upgrade the BIOS.