SP1 doesn't fix "Windows Explorer has stopped responding." Ready toput my fista through vista!

LAME LAME LAME! All excited to find Vista SP 1 to finally get rid of
frequent "Windows Explorer has stopped responding" errors? Don't hold
your breath. I just sat through an hour install over my Vista Home
Premium x32 with baited breath only to start breathing fire as 5
minutes into my experience with SP1 has left me in exactly the same
position.

Does anybody else still have this problem?

<> wrote in message
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> LAME LAME LAME! All excited to find Vista SP 1 to finally get rid of
> frequent "Windows Explorer has stopped responding" errors? Don't hold
> your breath. I just sat through an hour install over my Vista Home
> Premium x32 with baited breath only to start breathing fire as 5
> minutes into my experience with SP1 has left me in exactly the same
> position.
>
> Does anybody else still have this problem?

Have you tried setting IE back to the defaults (i.e. "Reset Internet
Explorer Settings" - no plug-ins)?

-Frank

"Frankster" <> wrote in message
news: ...
>
> <> wrote in message
> news:827a8756-1734-44f3-a4bc-...
> > LAME LAME LAME! All excited to find Vista SP 1 to finally get rid of
> > frequent "Windows Explorer has stopped responding" errors? Don't hold
> > your breath. I just sat through an hour install over my Vista Home
> > Premium x32 with baited breath only to start breathing fire as 5
> > minutes into my experience with SP1 has left me in exactly the same
> > position.
> >
> > Does anybody else still have this problem?
>
> Have you tried setting IE back to the defaults (i.e. "Reset Internet
> Explorer Settings" - no plug-ins)?
>
> -Frank
>


The OP said Windows Explorer

not Internet Explorer


All I can say is that I had some Vista problems too
that were not solved by SP1.

I gave up on Vista for now

"philo" <> wrote in message
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> "Frankster" <> wrote in message
> news: ...
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>> <> wrote in message
>> news:827a8756-1734-44f3-a4bc-...
>> > LAME LAME LAME! All excited to find Vista SP 1 to finally get rid of
>> > frequent "Windows Explorer has stopped responding" errors? Don't hold
>> > your breath. I just sat through an hour install over my Vista Home
>> > Premium x32 with baited breath only to start breathing fire as 5
>> > minutes into my experience with SP1 has left me in exactly the same
>> > position.
>> >
>> > Does anybody else still have this problem?
>>
>> Have you tried setting IE back to the defaults (i.e. "Reset Internet
>> Explorer Settings" - no plug-ins)?
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>
>
> The OP said Windows Explorer
>
> not Internet Explorer
>
>
> All I can say is that I had some Vista problems too
> that were not solved by SP1.
>
> I gave up on Vista for now
>
>

Oops...

-Frank

Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer share many modules, and it has been
demonstrated that IE plugins will affect WE's performance.

The OP was hoping that SP1 will fix a problem that is caused by something
other than Vista. A common misconception, as a clean system does not have WE
errors like that. The system is likely either buggered by malware, either
spyware, a virus or two, malicious plugin, or is suffering from the use of a
shell enhancement utility gone bad or not designed for use in Vista.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"philo" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Frankster" <> wrote in message
> news: ...
>>
>> <> wrote in message
>> news:827a8756-1734-44f3-a4bc-...
>> > LAME LAME LAME! All excited to find Vista SP 1 to finally get rid of
>> > frequent "Windows Explorer has stopped responding" errors? Don't hold
>> > your breath. I just sat through an hour install over my Vista Home
>> > Premium x32 with baited breath only to start breathing fire as 5
>> > minutes into my experience with SP1 has left me in exactly the same
>> > position.
>> >
>> > Does anybody else still have this problem?
>>
>> Have you tried setting IE back to the defaults (i.e. "Reset Internet
>> Explorer Settings" - no plug-ins)?
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>
>
> The OP said Windows Explorer
>
> not Internet Explorer
>
>
> All I can say is that I had some Vista problems too
> that were not solved by SP1.
>
> I gave up on Vista for now
>
>

"Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer share many modules, and it has been
> demonstrated that IE plugins will affect WE's performance.
>
> The OP was hoping that SP1 will fix a problem that is caused by something
> other than Vista. A common misconception, as a clean system does not have
WE
> errors like that. The system is likely either buggered by malware, either
> spyware, a virus or two, malicious plugin, or is suffering from the use of
a
> shell enhancement utility gone bad or not designed for use in Vista.
>



A good point. If the error was not present when Vista was first installed
a scan for malware would of course be manditory.


> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "philo" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> >
> > "Frankster" <> wrote in message
> > news: ...
> >>
> >> <> wrote in message
> >>
news:827a8756-1734-44f3-a4bc-...
> >> > LAME LAME LAME! All excited to find Vista SP 1 to finally get rid
of
> >> > frequent "Windows Explorer has stopped responding" errors? Don't
hold
> >> > your breath. I just sat through an hour install over my Vista Home
> >> > Premium x32 with baited breath only to start breathing fire as 5
> >> > minutes into my experience with SP1 has left me in exactly the same
> >> > position.
> >> >
> >> > Does anybody else still have this problem?
> >>
> >> Have you tried setting IE back to the defaults (i.e. "Reset Internet
> >> Explorer Settings" - no plug-ins)?
> >>
> >> -Frank
> >>
> >
> >
> > The OP said Windows Explorer
> >
> > not Internet Explorer
> >
> >
> > All I can say is that I had some Vista problems too
> > that were not solved by SP1.
> >
> > I gave up on Vista for now
> >
> >
>

What's the fault information for this crash according to the Problem Reports
and Solutions Center control panel?
http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket
will help you look that up if you don't know how.

It's extremely unlikely that Microsoft would ever be able to fix every cause
of induced crashes on your system without simply locking the system down so
you can't plug anything at all in. While Explorer itself goes through
massive testing (and when errors slip through, QFEs and that sort of thing
cover the failures), it's easily possible for third parties to plug into
Explorer, and most of those don't have the kajillion hours of testing that
Explorer gets before it ships. =(

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See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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<> wrote in message
news:827a8756-1734-44f3-a4bc-...
> LAME LAME LAME! All excited to find Vista SP 1 to finally get rid of
> frequent "Windows Explorer has stopped responding" errors? Don't hold
> your breath. I just sat through an hour install over my Vista Home
> Premium x32 with baited breath only to start breathing fire as 5
> minutes into my experience with SP1 has left me in exactly the same
> position.
>
> Does anybody else still have this problem?

Thanks for the humble curiosity. I realize a clean system does not
have the crashes, but it's not like Windows Explorer is being closed
by malware. Would it bother to report the crash if that were the
case? I would expect it to handle itself a little better given all
the security and UAC. Not to mention I've heard this complaint in
several forums about several different systems. I've tried clearing
out malware several times. It would be nice to do a repair install
off a disc. Of course PCs don't come with discs any more - just
recovery partitions - and any attempt to repair install using an OEM
disc will invalidate my ASUS Vista activation key.

Eek and now I find that the search context menu has been taken out? I
see forums that confirm it. Unacceptable :-( Sorry, but I'm backing
out SP1.

Thanks for monitoring the feedback though.
J

> What's the fault information for this crash according to the Problem Reports
> and Solutions Center control panel?
> http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket
> will help you look that up if you don't know how.
>
> It's extremely unlikely that Microsoft would ever be able to fix every cause
> of induced crashes on your system without simply locking the system down so
> you can't plug anything at all in. While Explorer itself goes through
> massive testing (and when errors slip through, QFEs and that sort of thing
> cover the failures), it's easily possible for third parties to plug into
> Explorer, and most of those don't have the kajillion hours of testing that
> Explorer gets before it ships. =(

Sorry I missed this. And I hate to be a brat in this post. I'm
settling down now (breathe..) haha. Interestingly enough, the bucket
changed after Vista. Not sure if there is a different checksum
involved or what, but before SP1 the info was:
Problem signature
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Explorer.EXE
Application Version: 6.0.6000.16549
Application Timestamp: 46d230c5
Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.0.6000.16386
Fault Module Timestamp: 4549bdc9
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00042e7b
OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 8d13
Additional Information 2: cdca9b1d21d12b77d84f02df48e34311
Additional Information 3: 8d13
Additional Information 4: cdca9b1d21d12b77d84f02df48e34311

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: 529202582


After SP1:
Problem signature
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: explorer.exe
Application Version: 6.0.6001.18000
Application Timestamp: 47918e5d
Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.0.6001.18000
Fault Module Timestamp: 4791a7a6
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00047dd2
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: fd00
Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Additional Information 3: fd00
Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: 636205138

Thanks
J

> What's the fault information for this crash according to the Problem Reports
> and Solutions Center control panel?
> http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket
> will help you look that up if you don't know how.

I share your pain. Every problem I reported to Microsoft via thei
Customer Experience thingy or whatever it was called is unresolved i
SP1. Dud links that don't work, IE crashing, Explorer hangs itself ever
time I try to pick up a folder and move it etc ad infinitum. I though
being part of the feedback process might pay dividends. Of course not.
wasted my time only to have more of my time wasted by an inadequate OS.

Good Luck

--
Clark

Don't eat the yellow snow.