Is SP1 REALLY worth it?

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Hi Folks-
We're on dial-up here at home. Last year when the huge Office update
came out (about 100MB) I had to take 2 computers- a laptop and a
desktop- down to a computer place and rent time on their network. Is
SP1 worth the trouble? This download of 65MB-427MB (shown on windows
update) done via dial-up will take from 4 to 24 hours per computer! Is
SP1 REALLY worth it?
Thanks.g.


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On 20 Mar 2008, Gary Goldblum <>
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> Is SP1 REALLY worth it?

I think it is. It fixed a few annoying bugs and overall performance is
improved. I don't think I'd tie up a phone line for 24 hours for it,
though. I'd hold off until I could obtain a copy on CD.

There's a stand-alone installer:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

(approx. 435 MB)

I suggest that you have a chum download it and burn it to CD. You can use
that to install SP1 on as many machines as you like. (You may be able to
obtain a CD from Microsoft, but as far as I know, they have not made one
available yet.)

Whether it's worthwhile, I can't say. If it's like the service packs for XP,
at some point Microsoft may require it to allow future Windows updates, so
you may as well go with the flow.

I'm running Vista Home Premium X64. The standalone installer for the X64 SP1
update is larger than 700 MB. I had to save it on a DVD. (I had no trouble
with the SP1 install, I must say.)

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"Gary Goldblum" <> wrote in message
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> Thread aka "You've GOT to be kidding!"
> Hi Folks-
> We're on dial-up here at home. Last year when the huge Office update
> came out (about 100MB) I had to take 2 computers- a laptop and a
> desktop- down to a computer place and rent time on their network. Is
> SP1 worth the trouble? This download of 65MB-427MB (shown on windows
> update) done via dial-up will take from 4 to 24 hours per computer! Is
> SP1 REALLY worth it?
> Thanks.g.
>
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Actually, it is. It does have a lot of fixes in it. Some of them aren't that
noticable, but it does improve a lot of issues and stability.

Is it possible to go to the computer shop and see if they can download the
file and put it on a CD for you? That way, you can have the CD, and use it
on multiple computers. The file is a bit larger but you can use it as many
times on as many machines as you need. And you have a permanent copy. If
they can't do it, drop me an email and I can send you one. It may take a few
days to get it to you, but at least you'll have a good copy of it.

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> Thread aka "You've GOT to be kidding!"
> Hi Folks-
> We're on dial-up here at home. Last year when the huge Office update
> came out (about 100MB) I had to take 2 computers- a laptop and a
> desktop- down to a computer place and rent time on their network. Is
> SP1 worth the trouble? This download of 65MB-427MB (shown on windows
> update) done via dial-up will take from 4 to 24 hours per computer! Is
> SP1 REALLY worth it?
> Thanks.g.
>
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"Gary Goldblum" <> wrote in message
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> Thread aka "You've GOT to be kidding!"
> Hi Folks-
> We're on dial-up here at home. Last year when the huge Office update
> came out (about 100MB) I had to take 2 computers- a laptop and a
> desktop- down to a computer place and rent time on their network. Is
> SP1 worth the trouble? This download of 65MB-427MB (shown on windows
> update) done via dial-up will take from 4 to 24 hours per computer! Is
> SP1 REALLY worth it?
> Thanks.g.
>
>
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If your machine is running well, I doubt it. If you have problems, maybe,
not necessarily yes.
I only use Vista because my last machine using XP died on me and wasn't
economical to repair. All the new ones available came with Vista, this was
in March last year.
I hated it at first, the hard drive never stopped pounding away, it froze
for no apparent reason, there were constant, daily updates which led me to
believe that it had escaped, not been released, but lately it's really not
that bad. The advantages over XP aren't really worth it in my opinion, it
doesn't really do that much more, it's just prettier.
I have a major gripe with indexing. If you delete a file, jpg or wmv for
instance, it stays on the index. It's there but if you try to open it, it
tells you the file doesn't exist. (Of course it doesn't, you've deleted it),
the only way round this as far as I know is to rebuild the index which takes
forever.
Progress I suppose, and vast sums of money to Microsoft,
Regards,
Alan.
"Gary Goldblum" <> wrote in message
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>
> Thread aka "You've GOT to be kidding!"
> Hi Folks-
> We're on dial-up here at home. Last year when the huge Office update
> came out (about 100MB) I had to take 2 computers- a laptop and a
> desktop- down to a computer place and rent time on their network. Is
> SP1 worth the trouble? This download of 65MB-427MB (shown on windows
> update) done via dial-up will take from 4 to 24 hours per computer! Is
> SP1 REALLY worth it?
> Thanks.g.
>
>
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"Gary Goldblum" <> wrote in message
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>
> Thread aka "You've GOT to be kidding!"
> Hi Folks-
> We're on dial-up here at home. Last year when the huge Office update
> came out (about 100MB) I had to take 2 computers- a laptop and a
> desktop- down to a computer place and rent time on their network. Is
> SP1 worth the trouble? This download of 65MB-427MB (shown on windows
> update) done via dial-up will take from 4 to 24 hours per computer! Is
> SP1 REALLY worth it?
> Thanks.g.
>





Yes it's really worth it, primarily for the 'placebo effect' feeling you get
inside from installing it.

And contrary to rumour it's NOT just zeroes-filled vapourware that takes
away a few more gigabytes of your precious hard disk space. It does much
much more than just that. In fact it's chockablock full of new improvements.
For starters there's .... yeah, and .... hmmm ..... yeah that too .....

Look, there was over 400 MB of it right? And does it not take nearly an hour
to install? So there MUST be something in it. It just stands to reason. Of
course there is. It will just take time to discover it that's all.


I ran some tests. Installed it on a machine that had nothing else on it, and
then compared its speed with a pre-sp1 machine that was laden down with
numerous devices, programs and services, and the results were that file
copying was much faster. So it look like progress.



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Nil;655312 Wrote:
> On 20 Mar 2008, Gary Goldblum <Gary.Goldblum.36lrnd@xxxxxx>
> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
> > > >
> > > Is SP1 REALLY worth it? > > I think it is. It fixed a few annoying bugs and overall performance is
> improved. I don't think I'd tie up a phone line for 24 hours for it,
> though. I'd hold off until I could obtain a copy on CD.

Maybe for you, but it kinda slowed down my start up.


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Gary Goldblum wrote:
> Thread aka "You've GOT to be kidding!"
> Hi Folks-
> We're on dial-up here at home. Last year when the huge Office update
> came out (about 100MB) I had to take 2 computers- a laptop and a
> desktop- down to a computer place and rent time on their network. Is
> SP1 worth the trouble? This download of 65MB-427MB (shown on windows
> update) done via dial-up will take from 4 to 24 hours per computer! Is
> SP1 REALLY worth it?
> Thanks.g.
>
>
>
From my perspective, the answer is a resounding NO. My SP1 hasn't
helped in any meaningful way--nothing is faster, and sleep and
hibernation are as problematic as before. Total waste of time here.

Dustin Harper wrote:
> Actually, it is. It does have a lot of fixes in it. Some of them
> aren't that noticable, but it does improve a lot of issues and stability.
>
> Is it possible to go to the computer shop and see if they can download
> the file and put it on a CD for you? That way, you can have the CD,
> and use it on multiple computers. The file is a bit larger but you can
> use it as many times on as many machines as you need. And you have a
> permanent copy. If they can't do it, drop me an email and I can send
> you one. It may take a few days to get it to you, but at least you'll
> have a good copy of it.
>
Hasn't fixed ANYTHING on my pc. Nada. zip.