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BrianW
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      08-09-2009
My new laptop came with Vista Home Premium, and the hard drive had been
partitioned into two equal partitions. On Friday I was offered Vista SP2
from the update centre. To my cost I agreed to install it.

The first thing it did was create a restore point. The installation then
failed part way through as "some features could not be updated". I was
then told that it would be rolled back to the most recent restore point.
I clicked on proceed and went away to let it do its stuff. Some time
later I returned to find the same error message, and clicked on proceed
a second time.

This appeared to work, except that when I logged in, it had restored the
PC to its initial state, not the most recent (or for that matter any)
restore point, and all traces of the software I had installed since then
- and my wireless connection - had vanised. It took me hours to set
everthing up again.

A quick Google came up with this:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971204/

Is this correct? If so it's going to be a rather common situation. And I
reiterate that this offered by Microsoft Update. I didn't go out there
actively looking for it. And what's the point of restore points if they
don't work?

Any comments please?

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Brian
 
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Charles W Davis
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      08-09-2009

"BrianW" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> My new laptop came with Vista Home Premium, and the hard drive had been
> partitioned into two equal partitions. On Friday I was offered Vista SP2
> from the update centre. To my cost I agreed to install it.
>
> The first thing it did was create a restore point. The installation then
> failed part way through as "some features could not be updated". I was
> then told that it would be rolled back to the most recent restore point. I
> clicked on proceed and went away to let it do its stuff. Some time later I
> returned to find the same error message, and clicked on proceed a second
> time.
>
> This appeared to work, except that when I logged in, it had restored the
> PC to its initial state, not the most recent (or for that matter any)
> restore point, and all traces of the software I had installed since then -
> and my wireless connection - had vanised. It took me hours to set
> everthing up again.
>
> A quick Google came up with this:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971204/
>
> Is this correct? If so it's going to be a rather common situation. And I
> reiterate that this offered by Microsoft Update. I didn't go out there
> actively looking for it. And what's the point of restore points if they
> don't work?
>
> Any comments please?
>
> --
> Brian

Unfortunately, it is true. What you must remember is that Microsoft has no
control over 3rd party software.

 
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nomore
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      08-09-2009
Ignore the Knowledgeless Base Article.
Microsoft habitually blames everyone else for problems with its software
until it is forced to fix something.
If you have a new notebook with a "hidden" partition on which the Vista
restore files are kept this is a standard industry practice and can not in
any way be the cause of the problem installing SP2. Most information in the
Microsoft Knowledge Base concerning failures of the OS are irrelevant, wrong
or, again, meant to blame the end user instead of the OS.
The only accurate statement in the KB Article is that you should not have
any external drives attached/turned on while installing the Service Pack,
although I have done this without problems.
Which is not to say I have never had problems with various service packs.
Sadly, you need to install SP2 in order to remain current with OS patches to
come as bad guys try to exploit foreseeable and unforeseeable weaknesses in
Vista and other software.
If your machine is now in its out of the box condition try downloading SP2
again, it is a large download and easily corrupted, and installing it before
you reinstall your programs. If that does not work contact the vendor of
your notebook as you will get no support from Microsoft.

 
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      08-10-2009


"BrianW" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> My new laptop came with Vista Home Premium, and the hard drive had been
> partitioned into two equal partitions. On Friday I was offered Vista SP2
> from the update centre. To my cost I agreed to install it.
>
> The first thing it did was create a restore point. The installation then
> failed part way through as "some features could not be updated". I was
> then told that it would be rolled back to the most recent restore point. I
> clicked on proceed and went away to let it do its stuff. Some time later I
> returned to find the same error message, and clicked on proceed a second
> time.
>
> This appeared to work, except that when I logged in, it had restored the
> PC to its initial state, not the most recent (or for that matter any)
> restore point, and all traces of the software I had installed since then -
> and my wireless connection - had vanised. It took me hours to set
> everthing up again.
>
> A quick Google came up with this:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971204/
>
> Is this correct? If so it's going to be a rather common situation. And I
> reiterate that this offered by Microsoft Update. I didn't go out there
> actively looking for it. And what's the point of restore points if they
> don't work?
>
> Any comments please?


When you installed SP2, was it by itself or combined with other updates? It
definitely should be installed by itself but, if it was, something must not
have been compatible or otherwise.
It seems a mystery to me why most people don't have any problem with the
installation. Am I missing something here?
Please understand, I am NOT defending Microsoft.

Harry.
>
> --
> Brian


 
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BrianW
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      08-11-2009
webster72n wrote:
>
>
> "BrianW" <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> My new laptop came with Vista Home Premium, and the hard drive had
>> been partitioned into two equal partitions. On Friday I was offered
>> Vista SP2 from the update centre. To my cost I agreed to install it.
>>
>> The first thing it did was create a restore point. The installation
>> then failed part way through as "some features could not be updated".
>> I was then told that it would be rolled back to the most recent
>> restore point. I clicked on proceed and went away to let it do its
>> stuff. Some time later I returned to find the same error message, and
>> clicked on proceed a second time.
>>
>> This appeared to work, except that when I logged in, it had restored
>> the PC to its initial state, not the most recent (or for that matter
>> any) restore point, and all traces of the software I had installed
>> since then - and my wireless connection - had vanised. It took me
>> hours to set everthing up again.
>>
>> A quick Google came up with this:
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971204/
>>
>> Is this correct? If so it's going to be a rather common situation. And
>> I reiterate that this offered by Microsoft Update. I didn't go out
>> there actively looking for it. And what's the point of restore points
>> if they don't work?
>>
>> Any comments please?

>
> When you installed SP2, was it by itself or combined with other updates?
> It definitely should be installed by itself but, if it was, something
> must not have been compatible or otherwise.
> It seems a mystery to me why most people don't have any problem with the
> installation. Am I missing something here?
> Please understand, I am NOT defending Microsoft.
>
> Harry.
>>
>> --
>> Brian


In the event it's all irrelevent. The display has now failed and I am
having to get a replacement!

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Brian
 
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webster72n
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      08-11-2009


"BrianW" <> wrote in message
news:uJNH$...
> webster72n wrote:
>>
>>
>> "BrianW" <> wrote in message
>> news:#...
>>> My new laptop came with Vista Home Premium, and the hard drive had been
>>> partitioned into two equal partitions. On Friday I was offered Vista SP2
>>> from the update centre. To my cost I agreed to install it.
>>>
>>> The first thing it did was create a restore point. The installation then
>>> failed part way through as "some features could not be updated". I was
>>> then told that it would be rolled back to the most recent restore point.
>>> I clicked on proceed and went away to let it do its stuff. Some time
>>> later I returned to find the same error message, and clicked on proceed
>>> a second time.
>>>
>>> This appeared to work, except that when I logged in, it had restored the
>>> PC to its initial state, not the most recent (or for that matter any)
>>> restore point, and all traces of the software I had installed since
>>> then - and my wireless connection - had vanised. It took me hours to set
>>> everthing up again.
>>>
>>> A quick Google came up with this:
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971204/
>>>
>>> Is this correct? If so it's going to be a rather common situation. And I
>>> reiterate that this offered by Microsoft Update. I didn't go out there
>>> actively looking for it. And what's the point of restore points if they
>>> don't work?
>>>
>>> Any comments please?

>>
>> When you installed SP2, was it by itself or combined with other updates?
>> It definitely should be installed by itself but, if it was, something
>> must not have been compatible or otherwise.
>> It seems a mystery to me why most people don't have any problem with the
>> installation. Am I missing something here?
>> Please understand, I am NOT defending Microsoft.
>>
>> Harry.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian

>
> In the event it's all irrelevent. The display has now failed and I am
> having to get a replacement!


Sorry about such an unfortunate development.
Hopefully replacement will put you back on track.
If possible, let us know. <H>.

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> --
> Brian


 
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