SP2 update worth it?

From what I've seen and heard the SP2 update seems to be more trouble than
it's worth. Is there any point in my even downloading it?

Service Pack 2 is a major critical security update for Windows XP.
It has been successfully installed on over 150 million PCs thus far.
I suggest you relieve yourself of your paranoia and install it at your
earliest convenience.

Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx

What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.mspx

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"meg" wrote:

| From what I've seen and heard the SP2 update seems to be more trouble than
| it's worth. Is there any point in my even downloading it?

Yes, it is most likely needed and worth it if computer security is important
to you:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811113

Most computers having troubles related to SP-2 had some problem, known or
unknown before attempting installation.
A well maintained computer is less likely to have problems related to SP-2.

Follow the Service Pack Installation Checklist:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"meg" <> wrote in message
news:A4FF5612-D769-466A-92FA-...
> From what I've seen and heard the SP2 update seems to be more trouble than
> it's worth. Is there any point in my even downloading it?
>

I understand Microsoft is going to force SP2 down our throats pretty
soon.
What will be my recourse "when" my machine crashes as it has every
time I've tried to update it so far? On the last attempt, I had to
reinstall over the top because it wouldn't rollback to Sp1.

Pure fiction so there is no recourse necessary.
What is your source?

Here is a link to some facts:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/forcesp2.htm

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Slippery_one" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I understand Microsoft is going to force SP2 down our throats pretty soon.
> What will be my recourse "when" my machine crashes as it has every time
> I've tried to update it so far? On the last attempt, I had to reinstall
> over the top because it wouldn't rollback to Sp1.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Pure fiction so there is no recourse necessary.
> What is your source?
>
> Here is a link to some facts:
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/forcesp2.htm
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
>
>
> "Slippery_one" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I understand Microsoft is going to force SP2 down our throats pretty
>>soon.
>> What will be my recourse "when" my machine crashes as it has every
>> time I've tried to update it so far? On the last attempt, I had to
>> reinstall over the top because it wouldn't rollback to Sp1.


Please address this:
http://www.aunty-spam.com/resistance...p-sp1-machines

Jupiter Jones has far more knowledge and wisdom then
the web site you referenced. Did you visit Jupiter's site?
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/forcesp2.htm

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.mspx

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"Slippery_one" wrote:

| Please address this:
| http://www.aunty-spam.com/resistance...p-sp1-machines

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Jupiter Jones has far more knowledge and wisdom then
> the web site you referenced. Did you visit Jupiter's site?
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/forcesp2.htm
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
> Microsoft Newsgroups

I am not questioning Mr. Jones at all. Somtimes the right hand knows
nothing of what the left is up to.


What does this statement mean then?:

"UPDATE: Time is running out! Please note that the mechanism to
temporarily disable delivery of Windows XP SP2 is only available for a
period of 240 days (8 months) from August 16, 2004. At the end of this
period (after April 12, 2005), Windows XP SP2 will be delivered to all
Windows XP and Windows XP Service Pack 1 systems."


And this one?:

"4/12/2005 - Windows XP SP2 will be delivered to all Windows XP and
Windows XP Service Pack 1 systems."

C & Ped from From
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2aumng.mspx

Go to the link you provided.
Then near the top click the Microsoft link.
As for your Microsoft quotes, they are out of context.
Put them back in the entire article.
Then notice it is referring to temporarily disabling SP-2 installation with
Automatic Update enabled.
For those with that tool and Automatic Update enabled, SP-2 has not been
installed.
Once that delay time expires, those with Automatic Update ENABLED will get
SP-2.
If you have Automatic Update disabled, you will NOT get SP-2.

The tool was intended for organizations with a large # of computers.
So they could keep AU enabled to get other Critical Updates while avoiding
SP-2 while they completed testing.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Slippery_one" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I am not questioning Mr. Jones at all. Somtimes the right hand knows
> nothing of what the left is up to.
>
>
> What does this statement mean then?:
>
> "UPDATE: Time is running out! Please note that the mechanism to
> temporarily disable delivery of Windows XP SP2 is only available for a
> period of 240 days (8 months) from August 16, 2004. At the end of this
> period (after April 12, 2005), Windows XP SP2 will be delivered to all
> Windows XP and Windows XP Service Pack 1 systems."
>
>
> And this one?:
>
> "4/12/2005 - Windows XP SP2 will be delivered to all Windows XP and
> Windows XP Service Pack 1 systems."
>
> C & Ped from From
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2aumng.mspx

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:ev%...
> Go to the link you provided.
> Then near the top click the Microsoft link.
> As for your Microsoft quotes, they are out of context.
> Put them back in the entire article.
> Then notice it is referring to temporarily disabling SP-2
> installation with Automatic Update enabled.
> For those with that tool and Automatic Update enabled, SP-2 has not
> been installed.
> Once that delay time expires, those with Automatic Update ENABLED
> will get SP-2.
> If you have Automatic Update disabled, you will NOT get SP-2.
>
> The tool was intended for organizations with a large # of computers.
> So they could keep AU enabled to get other Critical Updates while
> avoiding SP-2 while they completed testing.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
>

Thanks for the clarification. So long as it does not override my
settings, I don't have to worry about the nightmare of troubles I had
trying to install SP2.

You should be able to understand what my problem was here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;873148. I was
told by an MVP in "Microsoft.public.windows.help_and_support Thread
subject: windows xp sp2 installation error" to use subinacl. I have
been afraid to after what I went thru. It would take me 3 weeks to
re-install everything and get back to norm.


Would you would be so kind to answer one question for me. My troubles
with the install of SP2 (I wince at the name) led me to
http://forum.aumha.org/viewtopic.php?t=8125. My problem is that I am
running XP home and it is not listed in the Sys requirements. Will I
be able to run subinacl in XP home edition?:

Quote:
1. Download and install subinacl from:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

2. Create a file named reset.cmd in C:\Program Files\Windows
Resource
Kits\Tools folder.

3. Edit the reset.cmd file with the following content.

subinacl /subkeyreg HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE /grant=administrators=f
subinacl /subkeyreg HKEY_CURRENT_USER /grant=administrators=f
subinacl /subkeyreg HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT /grant=administrators=f
subinacl /subdirectories %SystemDrive% /grant=administrators=f

subinacl /subkeyreg HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE /grant=systems=f
subinacl /subkeyreg HKEY_CURRENT_USER /grant=system=f
subinacl /subkeyreg HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT /grant=system=f
subinacl /subdirectories %SystemDrive% /grant=system=f

4. Enter into CMD prompt.

5. Enter the following commands one at a time and click Enter.

cd\
cd "C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools"
reset.cmd

6. After a few minutes by processing subinacl, please test the
problem
again.