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Julian
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      07-31-2007
Once the product is really finished (relatively bug free and usable)
everybody buys one and you are promptly out of business.
Unless you can convince people that there is some reason
they should buy the next version, or you can come up with
the next new idea that everybody will want.

XP put MS in the finished product bind.
 
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      07-31-2007
"Julian" <> wrote in message news:F8E2B382-DD5F-4C02-A449-...
Once the product is really finished (relatively bug free and usable)
everybody buys one and you are promptly out of business.
Unless you can convince people that there is some reason
they should buy the next version, or you can come up with
the next new idea that everybody will want.
XP put MS in the finished product bind.


Yeah because XP is perfect, right?

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      07-31-2007
Certainly not.

IMHO, it's just that Vista is not good enough to replace it. Plus, OS is the
foundation, and I really don't see and think people spending that much time
on OS.

We are reaching to so-called marginal or diminishing return for H/W and S/W
unless there are some innovations for breakthrough use of computers.

Hey, we are still using keyboard, mouse, and drawing board for most of the
jobs, so how fast do we need for our processors?

Innovation is what we really need and don't have now.

My two cents though.

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"Julian" <> wrote in message
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Once the product is really finished (relatively bug free and usable)
everybody buys one and you are promptly out of business.
Unless you can convince people that there is some reason
they should buy the next version, or you can come up with
the next new idea that everybody will want.
XP put MS in the finished product bind.


Yeah because XP is perfect, right?

Mike


 
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      07-31-2007
On 31 Jul, 14:13, "Mike" <n...@where.man> wrote:
> "Julian" <Julianlz...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:F8E2B382-DD5F-4C02-A449-...
> Once the product is really finished (relatively bug free and usable)
> everybody buys one and you are promptly out of business.
> Unless you can convince people that there is some reason
> they should buy the next version, or you can come up with
> the next new idea that everybody will want.
> XP put MS in the finished product bind.
>
> Yeah because XP is perfect, right?


I don't know.

It did what I needed from a PC OS and it was better than earlier
versions.
The only other OS I know well is MVS-OS390-zOS ,so I can't say.


 
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      07-31-2007
"xfile" <cou-> wrote in message
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> Certainly not.
>
> Hey, we are still using keyboard, mouse, and drawing board for most of the
> jobs, so how fast do we need for our processors?
>


Have you heard of "Table Top Computers" yet?


 
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      07-31-2007
"xfile" <cou-> wrote in message
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> Certainly not.
>
> IMHO, it's just that Vista is not good enough to replace it.


Sure it is. It's already replaced XP for me.

>Plus, OS is the
> foundation, and I really don't see and think people spending that much
> time on OS.


Of course they don't. People (outside of geeks like us!) don't even know
what an OS is. It comes with they computer they buy. They take it home
and plug it in and there is Windows. Most people don't know the difference
between RAM and hard disk - it's just "memory" to them.

In a few years everyone will be using Vista because it came on the computer
they bought, and XP will become a fond memory like Windows 95.

Mike


 
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      07-31-2007
No, and enlighten me please

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> "xfile" <cou-> wrote in message
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>> Certainly not.
>>
>> Hey, we are still using keyboard, mouse, and drawing board for most of
>> the jobs, so how fast do we need for our processors?
>>

>
> Have you heard of "Table Top Computers" yet?
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      07-31-2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18936536/

Watch the video.


"xfile" <cou-> wrote in message
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> No, and enlighten me please
>
> "Vista User" <> wrote in message
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>> "xfile" <cou-> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Certainly not.
>>>
>>> Hey, we are still using keyboard, mouse, and drawing board for most of
>>> the jobs, so how fast do we need for our processors?
>>>

>>
>> Have you heard of "Table Top Computers" yet?
>>

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      07-31-2007
I am not geeks

> In a few years everyone will be using Vista because it came on the
> computer they bought, and XP will become a fond memory like Windows 95.


Well, maybe it is true but who knows the future for sure?

But as far as I know, MS adjusted its OS sales forecast for 2008, although
the overall sales figure is remained as the same, but sales forecast for
Vista is adjusted downward and upward for XP.

It's very interesting though.

And if the next version is going to be released in 3 years, I think many
people and business will wait.

But it's all our speculations


"Mike" <> wrote in message
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> "xfile" <cou-> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Certainly not.
>>
>> IMHO, it's just that Vista is not good enough to replace it.

>
> Sure it is. It's already replaced XP for me.
>
> >Plus, OS is the
>> foundation, and I really don't see and think people spending that much
>> time on OS.

>
> Of course they don't. People (outside of geeks like us!) don't even know
> what an OS is. It comes with they computer they buy. They take it home
> and plug it in and there is Windows. Most people don't know the
> difference between RAM and hard disk - it's just "memory" to them.
>
> In a few years everyone will be using Vista because it came on the
> computer they bought, and XP will become a fond memory like Windows 95.
>
> Mike
>
>



 
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      07-31-2007
Thanks, pretty cool. In the mean time, I hope voice recognition well mature
enough for "everyone" and for "everything". But it's glad that something is
really undergoing.


"Vista User" <> wrote in message
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> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18936536/
>
> Watch the video.
>
>
> "xfile" <cou-> wrote in message
> news:...
>> No, and enlighten me please
>>
>> "Vista User" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> "xfile" <cou-> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Certainly not.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, we are still using keyboard, mouse, and drawing board for most of
>>>> the jobs, so how fast do we need for our processors?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have you heard of "Table Top Computers" yet?
>>>

>>
>>

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>



 
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