Speech Recognition in Word 2003 on Vista

I have used Microsoft Office's built-in speech recognition successfully with
Word 2003 on XP. Now I am trying to use Vista's speech recognition with Word
2003.

The training program recognizes voice properly, as evidenced by saying a
training phrase improperly: it won't let you advance to the next screen until
you say it properly. So it is hearing and understanding voice.

But no words EVER appear in the Word document. Not the wrong words, NO words.

When turning on speech recognition with Word open one of two things happen,
either:
1. A variety of commands seem to happen—sidebars open, dialog boxes pop up,
etc.
2. Speech recognition dialog shows "What was that?"

It is clearly hearing and responding. Set mic volume several times, and db
meter in speech recognition shows normal response. It's as if it's in what in
Office used to be called "command mode" where it only listens for commands,
not words.

I mention Office's command mode, but Vista does not seem to have a "command
mode," although it is behaving as if everything is either a command or
unclear, and never a word. Note that choosing Tools>Speech in Word has no
effect. No checkbox appears, clicking the speech option and speaking, then
clicking again and speaking, etc. has no effect.

"Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
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> As promised, below is the result of my medical dictation
> using MacSpeech version 1.5.8

Andy t would, I'm sure, dispute this sales pitch, some of us prefer Dragon.


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" mac" <macknever fsmail.net> wrote:

> "Mark Conrad" <aeiou mostly.invalid> wrote

>> As promised, below is the result of my medical dictation
>> using MacSpeech version 1.5.8

> dispute this sales pitch, some of us prefer Dragon.

If you had bothered to read Mark's first reply, you would have
noticed that Dragon was mentioned as an alternative. Yes, Dragon
is good stuff. It plays better with Windows than Windows Speech
Recognition does. Naturally speaking works much better than WSR if
you push the envelope and use it for command and control of your
computer like I do.
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Mark Conrad <aeiou mostly.invalid> wrote:

> As you well know, research & engineering are at the bottom
> of the barrel in the USA when its comes to renumeration.

Yes that is sad IMO, but it is a different subject suited for the
politics groups.

FWIW.
Although "remuneration" looks as if it might mean "repayment" it
usually means simply "payment." In speech it is often confused
with "renumeration," which would mean re-counting (counting
again).
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/remuneration.html

> I made the mistake of outliving my finances in later life, heck
> even had to drop up my memberships in IEEE, ACM, AAAI recently
> because I could not afford the yearly premiums.
>
> To give you an idea of how poor I am, I could barely afford to
> buy my recent MacBook Pro at $5,000 base price, with its 512 GB
> solid-state internal drive & 8 gigs of ram.
>
> Now that's poor !!!

Not unless you had to borrow the money. In my main system is a 32
GB SSD main drive with a backup 150 GB Raptor, and I am happy with
the setup.
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Mark Conrad <> wrote:

> Has your 32 GB SSD shown any signs of deterioration yet?

No. Solid-state drives have a mean time between failure (MTBF) of
over 1 million hours. Therefore, either the concern about a
limited number of write operations is unfounded, or the makers are
lying about the MTBF. It cannot be both. You cannot have have an
SSD drive with a 1.5 million hour MTBF and also have to worry
about a limited number of write operations.

eMicrophones MyMSSpeech stalks, slanders, threatens others, and
publicly publishes information from private investigators such as
Kelmar & Associates, violating the privacy of innocent people who
have nothing to do with fighting eMicrophones MyMSSpeech spam and
misinformation.

The spammer Marty Martin Markoe and his buddies use many aliases
for advertising their commercial website and for attacking their
adversaries.

http://www.knowbrainer.com/
"After tracing this members profile we are embarrassed to find out
that we now know that Mike Tavia is another one of approximately
20 KnowBrainer forum aliases for Martin Markoe of emicrophones who
was banned from this forum for personal attacks."

Here is an example of Marty Martin Markoe & Company masquerading
as a lurker on UseNet.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....6f446a24e298e?
That fraud was the only post to UseNet and his NNTP posting host
(assigned to optonline.net) matched his buddy Michael Mendick.

Following are a few examples that illustrate the annoyance and
frustration eMicrophones MyMSSpeech spam from Martin Markoe causes
speech users seeking help.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a2b3f9dd6a0f0?
"Man you really are full of yourself [Martin]! Just leave me
alone... go away and let me get USEFUL information from someone
who will be honest with me instead of evasive, devisive and
insulting!"

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....cc9fa6c340ffc?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a2b3f9dd6a0f0?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....6b8b7563712e9?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....4c0e38032578f?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....7c2d47a1d5994?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....3180162c1d199?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....cc5fd879272fd?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....362b69d93a460?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....5a5e972b1cc1c?

See also:
eMicrophones, MyMSSpeech
billyrichbroker yahoo.com
Kelmar & Associates
M.M. <twatface41 yahoo.com>
Martin Markoe <martin emicrophones.com>
Martin Markoe <martin speechcontrol.com>
Martin Markoe <mmarkoe optonline.net>
MartyMarkoeeMicrophonesInc discussions.microsoft.com
Michael Mendick <michael emicrophones.com>
Microsoft Business Partner
mmarkoe gmail.com
mmarkoe yahoo.com
NEWSGROUP DESTROYER <twatface41 yahoo.com>
wbonneau gmail.com
wwwMyMSSpeechcom discussions.microsoft.com


mmarkoe <mmarkoe gmail.com> wrote:

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> From: mmarkoe <mmarkoe gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> Subject: Re: Speech Recognition in Word 2003 on Vista
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> WSR (Windows Speech Recognition) for Vista and Window 7 has a nice
> feature called, "Show Numbers." This allows someone with limited
> mobility to use a mouse the ability to speech enable any button, menu
> or drop down list on the screen.
>
> Marty Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc.
> Developer of the WSRToolkit (not necessary for the Show Numbers
> feature)
> http://www.emicrophones.com/p-1228-w...cognition.aspx
>
>

Stop spamming UseNet, Marty Martin Markoe.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....cc9fa6c340ffc?
Marty [Martin Markoe], how come whenever someone disagrees with
you, you get into this high school urinating contest mode?
Actually I can't find your credentials anywhere either, except as
a guy selling something.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a2b3f9dd6a0f0?
Man [Marty Martin Markoe] you really are full of yourself! Just
leave me alone. I asked you a question. Silly me, I wanted to
know what I was buying before I bought it. How absurd! I then get
email after email after email from you telling me that you won't
answer my question and trying to justify it. Lets cut the crap.
You won't answer my question. I won't buy from you. So now go
away and let me get USEFUL information from someone who will be
honest with me instead of evasive, devisive and insulting!

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....6b8b7563712e9?
You [Marty Martin Markoe] MAY have been inside but I HAVE been and
also speak from a position of knowledge. More importantly I am
not here touting my business. A position which makes anything you
say suspect, doesn't it. I have been watching this group for a
long time and you have managed to turn it into the eMicrophones,
Inc. mail list. Almost no one with expertise posts here any longer.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....3180162c1d199?
Here are my qualifications. Certified and trained for Philips
SpeechMagic, IBM ViaVoice, IBM Medspeak, Kurzweil VoiceMed, Dragon
NaturallySpeaking Enterprise & L&H VoiceXpress. So please, don't
call me a "Charlatan". I would love nothing better than to never
fight with you [Marty Martin Markoe] again but stop trying to
one-up everyone. I am a member of several newsgroups in the
microphone industry (more than just computer mics). I see vendors
posting all the time and as long as you are not a member of the
newsgroup, there aren't constant one-up battles.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....362b69d93a460?
THAT IS THE PRICE YOU [Marty Martin Markoe] PAY FOR SELLING
MICROPHONES AND ALSO WRITING PUBLIC REVIEWS ABOUT THEM AND THEN
TRYING TO BE AGGRESSIVE IN ANY NEWSGROUP RELATED TO SPEECH
RECOGNITION.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....cc5fd879272fd?
With this pattern of behaviour [by Marty Martin Markoe], the next
step is usually stalking--email stalking (To follow and comment on
one user's posts persistently, especially out of obsession or
derangement to threaten or to menacingly spread deceit)

http://www.knowbrainer.com/
"After tracing this members [Marty Martin Markoe] profile we are
embarrassed to find out that we now know that Mike Tavia is
another one of approximately 20 KnowBrainer forum aliases for
Martin Markoe of emicrophones who was banned from this forum for
personal attacks."

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....6f446a24e298e?
An example of Marty Martin Markoe & Company masquerading as a
lurker on UseNet. That fraud was the only post to UseNet and his
NNTP posting host (assigned to optonline.net) matched his buddy
Michael Mendick.

See also:
eMicrophones, MyMSSpeech
billyrichbroker yahoo.com
Kelmar & Associates
M.M. <twatface41 yahoo.com>
Martin Markoe <martin emicrophones.com>
Martin Markoe <martin speechcontrol.com>
Martin Markoe <mmarkoe optonline.net>
MartyMarkoeeMicrophonesInc discussions.microsoft.com
Michael Mendick <michael emicrophones.com>
Microsoft Business Partner
mmarkoe gmail.com
mmarkoe yahoo.com
NEWSGROUP DESTROYER <twatface41 yahoo.com>
wbonneau gmail.com
wwwMyMSSpeechcom discussions.microsoft.com


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> On May 31, 1:27ÿam, John Doe <j... usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>> eMicrophones MyMSSpeech stalks, slanders, threatens others, and
>> publicly publishes information from private investigators such as
>> Kelmar & Associates, violating the privacy of innocent people who
>> have nothing to do with fighting eMicrophones MyMSSpeech spam and
>> misinformation.
>>
>> The spammer Marty Martin Markoe and his buddies use many aliases
>> for advertising their commercial website and for attacking their
>> adversaries.
>
> Let's see, we have John Doe (really the criminal Mark Bender) and on
> the Speech Computing forum we have Xanadu, also the criminal Mark
> Bender from San Antonio, TX. I use my real name. I don't post
> references to other posters that cannot be verified, called 2nd hand
> testimony. What has been verified is you have publicly said, "Your
> mother is the whore who squeezed you out."
>
> What is my crime according to alias Mark Bender/Xanadu but really
> criminal Mark Bender Internet Cop Wannabe:
> "Helping people and including links to your commercial web site in
> your signature is okay IMO. Persistently inviting them to your
> commercial web site in the body of your post is not okay IMO. "
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...d34bde478b656b
>
> Get real Mark Bender, you are not an Internet Policeman, you have been
> discovered as having been arrested twice and been sued into poverty.
> You are a pathetic human being who owns no property, not even an
> automobile. Your whole day is taken up hidden behind a computer with
> an antiquated XP operating system, roller blading down by the river
> walk and feeding stray cats (very commendable in my book).
>
> The postings made my Marty Markoe have been helping others for 12
> years on the Internet. I was invited to Redmond and gave the Speech
> Workgroup the value of my experience in 2006 prior to the release of
> WSR, Windows Speech Recognition. In July I will be receiving an award
> for my speech recognition contributions that few people receive (don't
> worry John Doe/Mark Bender, you'll be the first to hear about it). In
> addition, when the Dragon NaturallySpeaking Dealer Seminar was
> organized in June of 2009, I was chosen to give the microphone
> presentation to over 40 top dealers in the US.
>
> What have you Mark Bender aka John Doe aka Xanadu contributed to
> Speech Recognition????
>
> Sincerely,
> Marty Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc.
> Deverloper of the WSRToolkit
> Speech Recognition expert since 1994
>
>

Mark Conrad <aeiou mostly.invalid> wrote:

> Googling reveals a lot of stuff that warns against de-fragging a
> SSD, under penalty of cutting its life span in half.

Defragmenting an SSD drive is pointless, so that is a pointless
argument.
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Mark Conrad <aeiou mostly.invalid> wrote:

> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>> > Googling reveals a lot of stuff that warns against
>> > de-fragging a SSD, under penalty of cutting its life span in
>> > half.
>>
>> Defragmenting an SSD drive is pointless, so that is a pointless
>> argument.
>
> Yeah, I guess you are correct

Benchmarks prove it.

> One problem I have with the Apple 512 GB drive is that I can no
> longer get adequate compression of my 100 GB backup file of my
> Windows-7 partition. It only compresses down to 20 GB. ...and I
> know the exact reason why. It is my fear of "using up" the
> limited write cycles of the SSD by clearing the free space in
> the darn Windows-7 partition.

Compressing data usually clears the free space on the way to the
target media. Currently, I use a free program called Macrium
Reflect. Works great for making copies of my SSD main drive to my
secondary HDD drive, better than any of the many disk manager
programs I have paid for.
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> <grumble>
>
> Mark-
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Mark Conrad <aeiou mostly.invalid> wrote:

> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>> Compressing data usually clears the free space on the way to the
>> target media. Currently, I use a free program called Macrium
>> Reflect.
>
> The concept of clearing free space on the way to the
> target media sounds great, however I have a situation
> here that not even Macrium Reflect would be able
> to handle.
>
> Beware, long tirade about my stiff backup/restore crap,
> Do Not Read under any circumstances, else your mind
> will go blank - - - you were warned.

Okay... A good place for storage related problems is the storage
group.
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> ###########################
>
> In order to backup my 512-GB solid state drive in a
> fashion "good enough" to suit my requirements, the
> backup/restore utility has to be able to work on Mac
> hardware.
>
> It also has to be able to backup and restore two
> completely different partitions simultaneously,
> a Mac OSX partition, and a Windows-7 partition,
> both on the same 512GB SSD.
>
> It also has to backup/restore all the non-file data,
> such as the partition table, the secondary partition
> table, the boot sector, and all the other non-file
> stuff that Apple places on their drives.
>
> It also has to preserve traces of past deleted files, in
> case I have a critical file that I need to "exhume" from
> the restored backup, with a heavy duty file recovery
> utility.
>
> I could do all these things and more with a Unix utilility
> called "dd" , an integral part of Unix.
> (and Mac, whose OS is based on a variety of Unix)
>
>
>
> S-o-o-o, my solution was to make two backups,
> the first backup would even preserve whatever
> erased file segments were in "free space".
> The purpose of this temporary backup was to
> be a temporary "cushion" in case I later needed to
> exhume traces of a critical file that I had prematurely
> erased.
>
> The below operation is what I fear to do,
> because of the limited write cycles associated
> with present-day SSD technology, combined with
> the very high cost of a 512 GB SSD ( $1,300 )
> #################################
>
> For the second backup, I would completely wipe all
> the free space of both partitions, individually, using
> the appropriate utility. (Windows or Mac)
>
> ...wiping done BEFORE the dd backup was started.
>
>
>
> This wiping guaranteed that I could later compress the huge
> 512 GB backup image down to a file as small as 50 GB,
> for long term archival storage offsite.
>
> (compression done on a Mac that does NOT have a SSD,
> in order to avoid "using up" the limited write cycles
> on my expensive Mac with its high-cost SSD)
>
>
> There you go, everything you never wanted to know
> about my backups ;-) ;-) ;-)
>
> Mark-
>
>

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