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PcUser101
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      12-09-2007
Microsoft seems to have a Google complex. It tries to stuck Search and Index
functions to many places in the OS. It wants them so bad, I feel it is
losing touch to its core user base and user experience.

This is best illustrated in the Start button. In Vista, when you click on
the Start button, what pop up, right above, is "Search"... This feels odd,
because 99% of the time when I click on the Start button, I don't want to
search. I want to run application. It is possible that as I type, the
application's exe file may come up as search results.. but that is not
convenient.

I miss the Start, Run, then I can type in the exe I want to run.

Another is the Windows Search service. It frequently runs wild, unlike it
is advertised, such that it will yield to front end applications. Index a PC
can be tricky, even Google Desktop Indexing mess up from time to time.
Windows' Search service is no exception. Often it doesn't yield, sometime it
keep running, consume more and more CPU and IOs, but make no progress in the
% indexed. With other "background" services running, like anti virus scan,
iTune music file management, and other photo management services running all
in the background, it is likely to get confused... and run wild easily.

With all the hard disc noise, and my pc slow down to a virtual stand still,
I finally disabled the Windows Search service. Now my PC is very quiet. I
wonder how much hard drive's lifetime it has wasted.

I start to write this... and think I hardly use any search at all. I use
this PC for a lot of things... I always know where my files are ... I hardly
need any search at all. I only use search few times at my work PC. Never at
my home PC.

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      12-09-2007
"PcUser101" <> wrote in message
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> Microsoft seems to have a Google complex. It tries to stuck Search and
> Index
> functions to many places in the OS. It wants them so bad, I feel it is
> losing touch to its core user base and user experience.
>
> This is best illustrated in the Start button. In Vista, when you click on
> the Start button, what pop up, right above, is "Search"... This feels
> odd,
> because 99% of the time when I click on the Start button, I don't want to
> search. I want to run application. It is possible that as I type, the
> application's exe file may come up as search results.. but that is not
> convenient.
>
> I miss the Start, Run, then I can type in the exe I want to run.
>
> Another is the Windows Search service. It frequently runs wild, unlike it
> is advertised, such that it will yield to front end applications. Index a
> PC
> can be tricky, even Google Desktop Indexing mess up from time to time.
> Windows' Search service is no exception. Often it doesn't yield, sometime
> it
> keep running, consume more and more CPU and IOs, but make no progress in
> the
> % indexed. With other "background" services running, like anti virus
> scan,
> iTune music file management, and other photo management services running
> all
> in the background, it is likely to get confused... and run wild easily.
>
> With all the hard disc noise, and my pc slow down to a virtual stand
> still,
> I finally disabled the Windows Search service. Now my PC is very quiet.
> I
> wonder how much hard drive's lifetime it has wasted.
>
> I start to write this... and think I hardly use any search at all. I use
> this PC for a lot of things... I always know where my files are ... I
> hardly
> need any search at all. I only use search few times at my work PC. Never
> at
> my home PC.
>
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> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general



If you right click on the taskbar...properties...start
menu...customize...you can add run to the start menu.

 
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Cal Bear '66
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      12-09-2007
The Start Search box can be used exactly the same as the Run box: Just type
your .exe and hit Enter.

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"PcUser101" <> wrote in message
news:094ADD57-2370-4020-BDF4-...
> Microsoft seems to have a Google complex. It tries to stuck Search and Index
> functions to many places in the OS. It wants them so bad, I feel it is
> losing touch to its core user base and user experience.
>
> This is best illustrated in the Start button. In Vista, when you click on
> the Start button, what pop up, right above, is "Search"... This feels odd,
> because 99% of the time when I click on the Start button, I don't want to
> search. I want to run application. It is possible that as I type, the
> application's exe file may come up as search results.. but that is not
> convenient.
>
> I miss the Start, Run, then I can type in the exe I want to run.
>
> Another is the Windows Search service. It frequently runs wild, unlike it
> is advertised, such that it will yield to front end applications. Index a PC
> can be tricky, even Google Desktop Indexing mess up from time to time.
> Windows' Search service is no exception. Often it doesn't yield, sometime it
> keep running, consume more and more CPU and IOs, but make no progress in the
> % indexed. With other "background" services running, like anti virus scan,
> iTune music file management, and other photo management services running all
> in the background, it is likely to get confused... and run wild easily.
>
> With all the hard disc noise, and my pc slow down to a virtual stand still,
> I finally disabled the Windows Search service. Now my PC is very quiet. I
> wonder how much hard drive's lifetime it has wasted.
>
> I start to write this... and think I hardly use any search at all. I use
> this PC for a lot of things... I always know where my files are ... I hardly
> need any search at all. I only use search few times at my work PC. Never at
> my home PC.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general



 
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Dave T.
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      12-09-2007
PcUser101 wrote:
>
> I start to write this... and think I hardly use any search at all. I use
> this PC for a lot of things... I always know where my files are ... I hardly
> need any search at all. I only use search few times at my work PC. Never at
> my home PC.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
>


Is it your suggestion that MS should eliminate the search function? I
disagree. I use search extensively, that way I don't have to try to
remember where everything is located.

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Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
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      12-09-2007
Just treat Search as your Run button.
IOW, click Start and start typing your command. The Run button is
superfluous.

"PcUser101" <> wrote in message
news:094ADD57-2370-4020-BDF4-...
> Microsoft seems to have a Google complex. It tries to stuck Search and
> Index
> functions to many places in the OS. It wants them so bad, I feel it is
> losing touch to its core user base and user experience.
>
> This is best illustrated in the Start button. In Vista, when you click on
> the Start button, what pop up, right above, is "Search"... This feels
> odd,
> because 99% of the time when I click on the Start button, I don't want to
> search. I want to run application. It is possible that as I type, the
> application's exe file may come up as search results.. but that is not
> convenient.
>
> I miss the Start, Run, then I can type in the exe I want to run.
>
> Another is the Windows Search service. It frequently runs wild, unlike it
> is advertised, such that it will yield to front end applications. Index a
> PC
> can be tricky, even Google Desktop Indexing mess up from time to time.
> Windows' Search service is no exception. Often it doesn't yield, sometime
> it
> keep running, consume more and more CPU and IOs, but make no progress in
> the
> % indexed. With other "background" services running, like anti virus
> scan,
> iTune music file management, and other photo management services running
> all
> in the background, it is likely to get confused... and run wild easily.
>
> With all the hard disc noise, and my pc slow down to a virtual stand
> still,
> I finally disabled the Windows Search service. Now my PC is very quiet.
> I
> wonder how much hard drive's lifetime it has wasted.
>
> I start to write this... and think I hardly use any search at all. I use
> this PC for a lot of things... I always know where my files are ... I
> hardly
> need any search at all. I only use search few times at my work PC. Never
> at
> my home PC.


 
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Derik
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      12-09-2007
yes i agree with everyone else (even cal bear '66 surprisingly), you can
use the search as run, and u can also have run added to your start menu,
bye following the steps of forty-nine.

PcUser101 wrote:
> Microsoft seems to have a Google complex. It tries to stuck Search and Index
> functions to many places in the OS. It wants them so bad, I feel it is
> losing touch to its core user base and user experience.
>
> This is best illustrated in the Start button. In Vista, when you click on
> the Start button, what pop up, right above, is "Search"... This feels odd,
> because 99% of the time when I click on the Start button, I don't want to
> search. I want to run application. It is possible that as I type, the
> application's exe file may come up as search results.. but that is not
> convenient.
>
> I miss the Start, Run, then I can type in the exe I want to run.
>
> Another is the Windows Search service. It frequently runs wild, unlike it
> is advertised, such that it will yield to front end applications. Index a PC
> can be tricky, even Google Desktop Indexing mess up from time to time.
> Windows' Search service is no exception. Often it doesn't yield, sometime it
> keep running, consume more and more CPU and IOs, but make no progress in the
> % indexed. With other "background" services running, like anti virus scan,
> iTune music file management, and other photo management services running all
> in the background, it is likely to get confused... and run wild easily.
>
> With all the hard disc noise, and my pc slow down to a virtual stand still,
> I finally disabled the Windows Search service. Now my PC is very quiet. I
> wonder how much hard drive's lifetime it has wasted.
>
> I start to write this... and think I hardly use any search at all. I use
> this PC for a lot of things... I always know where my files are ... I hardly
> need any search at all. I only use search few times at my work PC. Never at
> my home PC.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

 
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Stevo
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      12-09-2007

If you don't like the new Start menu, use the classic one. They offer
it for a reason.




 
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      12-10-2007

"forty-nine" <-u> wrote in message news:fjhdb3$8t0$...
> "PcUser101" <> wrote in message
> news:094ADD57-2370-4020-BDF4-...
>> Microsoft seems to have a Google complex. It tries to stuck Search and
>> Index
>> functions to many places in the OS. It wants them so bad, I feel it is
>> losing touch to its core user base and user experience.
>>
>> This is best illustrated in the Start button. In Vista, when you click
>> on
>> the Start button, what pop up, right above, is "Search"... This feels
>> odd,
>> because 99% of the time when I click on the Start button, I don't want to
>> search. I want to run application. It is possible that as I type, the
>> application's exe file may come up as search results.. but that is not
>> convenient.
>>

USE WINDOWS KEY AND 'R' FOR RUN COMMANDS, QUITE SIMPLE, REALLY...i know
don't shout and don't MIDDLE POST, SORRY
>> I miss the Start, Run, then I can type in the exe I want to run.
>>
>> Another is the Windows Search service. It frequently runs wild, unlike
>> it
>> is advertised, such that it will yield to front end applications. Index
>> a PC
>> can be tricky, even Google Desktop Indexing mess up from time to time.
>> Windows' Search service is no exception. Often it doesn't yield,
>> sometime it
>> keep running, consume more and more CPU and IOs, but make no progress in
>> the
>> % indexed. With other "background" services running, like anti virus
>> scan,
>> iTune music file management, and other photo management services running
>> all
>> in the background, it is likely to get confused... and run wild easily.
>>
>> With all the hard disc noise, and my pc slow down to a virtual stand
>> still,
>> I finally disabled the Windows Search service. Now my PC is very quiet.
>> I
>> wonder how much hard drive's lifetime it has wasted.
>>
>> I start to write this... and think I hardly use any search at all. I use
>> this PC for a lot of things... I always know where my files are ... I
>> hardly
>> need any search at all. I only use search few times at my work PC.
>> Never at
>> my home PC.
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

>
>
> If you right click on the taskbar...properties...start
> menu...customize...you can add run to the start menu.


 
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