Stay or go back?

I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes 10
times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch with
my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and I'm
wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles
that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might miss
is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's
not nearly enough to continue.

My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to
6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

Vista works fine for millions. I have Vista on 4 machines. Everything works
faster than in XP.

You are a provocateur. You are one of those trolls, Vista haters who try to
scare people considering installing Vista. Your post, whoever stand behind
it is bogus.

Take your sh*it elswhere.

"Inga Binga" <> wrote in message
news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-...
> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes
> 10
> times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch
> with
> my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and
> I'm
> wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other
> hassles
> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might
> miss
> is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and
> that's
> not nearly enough to continue.
>
> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3
> to
> 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?
>
>

"Inga Binga" <> wrote in message
news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-...
> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes
> 10
> times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch
> with
> my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and
> I'm
> wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other
> hassles
> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might
> miss
> is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and
> that's
> not nearly enough to continue.
>
> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3
> to
> 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?


SP1 should be out by April at the latest.
My installation works fine.
Question: The computer you're using -- has it ever run XP? Or did it come
with Vista? If it's never run XP then maybe the problem is with the
computer. I have not heard of having to reinstall printer drivers again and
again. I certainly don't have to with Vista. Maybe it's a hardware issue?

I am in exactly the same quandary. I am having terrible problems with USB
drivers on my Vista machine and I have lost days of productivity trying to
fix it. I too am considering the drastic action of formatting and
reinstalling everything on XP.

I also wish to buy a laptop and am in a similar quandary. I really don't
want to buy a Vista laptop at the moment. Dell say they will sell me one of
their laptops with XP on it, but if it was designed to run Vista I fear that
I will have problems trying to run XP on it.

It would certainly be reassuring if there was a date for Vista SP1.

Hi DP,
The machine in question ran XP flawlessly including activesynch with several
devices.

And to AlexB: I am neither a troll or provocatuer. If I am to be labeled a
Vista hater, it's purely on the basis of personal experience and money
wasted. If your response is indicative of the "quality" of discourse, I
shall indeed depart these august surroundings.

"DP" wrote:

>
> "Inga Binga" <> wrote in message
> news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-...
> > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes
> > 10
> > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch
> > with
> > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and
> > I'm
> > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other
> > hassles
> > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
> > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
> > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might
> > miss
> > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and
> > that's
> > not nearly enough to continue.
> >
> > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
> > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
> > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3
> > to
> > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?
>
>
> SP1 should be out by April at the latest.
> My installation works fine.
> Question: The computer you're using -- has it ever run XP? Or did it come
> with Vista? If it's never run XP then maybe the problem is with the
> computer. I have not heard of having to reinstall printer drivers again and
> again. I certainly don't have to with Vista. Maybe it's a hardware issue?
>
>

"Rich T" <> wrote in message
news:E0BEC6B8-0E82-441C-99B4-...
>
> Dell say they will sell me one of their laptops with XP on it, but if it
> was designed to run Vista I fear that I will have problems trying to run
> XP on it.


I don't think that's an issue.

Sometimes Vista is 'too fast' for things like syncing with some other device.
It uses the faster IP protocol called 'IPv6', (instead of IPv4), and you may
have to look into setting the speed of the connection to 'half-duplex' to get
your Vista to 'talk slower to the old man' I don't know what is available
for your particular device, but let me use an ethernet card for example. You
would open device manager (devmgmt.msc) to the 'network adapter' device, and
double click for the Properties page. There would be a "Speed' tab to set
'Half Huplex' instead of something like 'autodetect'.
If you have trouble doing that, starty a new thread here, explaing what
connection you need to slow down. There are certainly a bunch of
configurations for hardware, and you need to be specific about what devices
are in use.
As far av IPv6 goes, it is no worry, since Vista uses 'tunneling' to send a
6 packet inside a 4 packet. (and we can all use a 6 packet )
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"Inga Binga" wrote:

> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes 10
> times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch with
> my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and I'm
> wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles
> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might miss
> is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's
> not nearly enough to continue.
>
> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to
> 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?
>
>

Inga Binga wrote:

> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes
> 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch
> with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro
> and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of
> other hassles
> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might
> miss is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and
> that's not nearly enough to continue.
>
> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3
> to 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

There is NO compelling reason to wait for SP1 or to wait for SP5 for that
matter when you can be running a real operating system NOW. Don't even
think about converting to XP Pro. That's old news, an old o/s that ain't
going anywhere. Go with Linux, it is the future.

http://www.ubuntu.com

Cheers.

--
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http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4...nceMonitor.jpg

AlexB: "If it is Business or Ultimate open Command Prompt as administrator
and type lusrmgr.msc."
^^^^^
I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.

Inga Binga wrote:

> Hi DP,
> The machine in question ran XP flawlessly including activesynch with
> several devices.
>
> And to AlexB: I am neither a troll or provocatuer. If I am to be labeled
> a Vista hater, it's purely on the basis of personal experience and money
> wasted. If your response is indicative of the "quality" of discourse, I
> shall indeed depart these august surroundings.
>
Ignore AlexB and his ilk. AlexB is just a paranoid right-wing idiot who is
constantly looking around his bedroom for communists. When he's not doing
that, his mommy gives him some computer time and he comes here to call
anyone who knows what a p.o.s. Vista is, a troll. His buddy the Village
Idiot, aka, Frankie Boy is also a complete waste of time and resources.

Cheers.

> "DP" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Inga Binga" <> wrote in message
>> news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-...
>> > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything
>> > takes 10
>> > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch
>> > with
>> > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and
>> > I'm
>> > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other
>> > hassles
>> > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of
>> > my printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the
>> > printer on
>> > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might
>> > miss
>> > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and
>> > that's
>> > not nearly enough to continue.
>> >
>> > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
>> > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
>> > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in
>> > 3 to
>> > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?
>>
>>
>> SP1 should be out by April at the latest.
>> My installation works fine.
>> Question: The computer you're using -- has it ever run XP? Or did it come
>> with Vista? If it's never run XP then maybe the problem is with the
>> computer. I have not heard of having to reinstall printer drivers again
>> and again. I certainly don't have to with Vista. Maybe it's a hardware
>> issue?
>>
>>

--
Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4...nceMonitor.jpg

AlexB: "If it is Business or Ultimate open Command Prompt as administrator
and type lusrmgr.msc."
^^^^^
I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.

"Inga Binga" <> wrote in message
news:A505AFC9-C591-4FCC-9DD8-...
> Hi DP,
> The machine in question ran XP flawlessly including activesynch with
> several
> devices.
>
> And to AlexB: I am neither a troll or provocatuer. If I am to be labeled
> a
> Vista hater, it's purely on the basis of personal experience and money
> wasted. If your response is indicative of the "quality" of discourse, I
> shall indeed depart these august surroundings.

See, you have to be a troll. You don't even know what month it is. It
isn't August, it's February!
:-)


>
> "DP" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Inga Binga" <> wrote in message
>> news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-...
>> > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything
>> > takes
>> > 10
>> > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch
>> > with
>> > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and
>> > I'm
>> > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other
>> > hassles
>> > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of
>> > my
>> > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer
>> > on
>> > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might
>> > miss
>> > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and
>> > that's
>> > not nearly enough to continue.
>> >
>> > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
>> > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
>> > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in
>> > 3
>> > to
>> > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?
>>
>>
>> SP1 should be out by April at the latest.
>> My installation works fine.
>> Question: The computer you're using -- has it ever run XP? Or did it come
>> with Vista? If it's never run XP then maybe the problem is with the
>> computer. I have not heard of having to reinstall printer drivers again
>> and
>> again. I certainly don't have to with Vista. Maybe it's a hardware issue?
>>
>>