still too much eye candy

I cannot say that vista improvement over the user interface is major
improvement. They are mere eye candy. Check this out:
http://blogs.pcworld.com/tipsandtwea...es/002146.html

This is what I called improvement

bamsan wrote:
> I cannot say that vista improvement over the user interface is major
> improvement. They are mere eye candy. Check this out:
> http://blogs.pcworld.com/tipsandtwea...es/002146.html
>
> This is what I called improvement


There's certainly more than one time I've felt like smacking one upside
the head...

Have you checked out some distributions of Linux using Beryl and Compiz? If
that type of eye candy was real candy, a lot dentist would be billionaires.
Vista based on my experiences with the OS since last year is that everything
is done judiciously and conservatively. Yes, its eye candy done a
professional way, not over whelming or trying to out do. Compiz and Beryl
for focus on outdoing Vista, which should be the aim. AERO Glass is about
focusing on the content of an applications main window, removing the
distraction of title bar, adding dynamic focus and attention through
transitions such as minimize, maximize, Flip 3D and numerous other
functional friendliness in the OS.
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"bamsan" <> wrote in message
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>I cannot say that vista improvement over the user interface is major
>improvement. They are mere eye candy. Check this out:
>http://blogs.pcworld.com/tipsandtwea...es/002146.html
>
> This is what I called improvement

Andre Da Costa [ActiveWin] wrote:
> Have you checked out some distributions of Linux using Beryl and Compiz?
> If that type of eye candy was real candy, a lot dentist would be
> billionaires. Vista based on my experiences with the OS since last year
> is that everything is done judiciously and conservatively. Yes, its eye
> candy done a professional way, not over whelming or trying to out do.
> Compiz and Beryl for focus on outdoing Vista, which should be the aim.
> AERO Glass is about focusing on the content of an applications main
> window, removing the distraction of title bar, adding dynamic focus and
> attention through transitions such as minimize, maximize, Flip 3D and
> numerous other functional friendliness in the OS.


So you like it, many I know think it garish and ugly and contributing an
overall negative to functionality since it makes many things much harder
to read.

wow i love it too it's cool

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"Charlie Tame" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Andre Da Costa [ActiveWin] wrote:
>> Have you checked out some distributions of Linux using Beryl and Compiz?
>> If that type of eye candy was real candy, a lot dentist would be
>> billionaires. Vista based on my experiences with the OS since last year
>> is that everything is done judiciously and conservatively. Yes, its eye
>> candy done a professional way, not over whelming or trying to out do.
>> Compiz and Beryl for focus on outdoing Vista, which should be the aim.
>> AERO Glass is about focusing on the content of an applications main
>> window, removing the distraction of title bar, adding dynamic focus and
>> attention through transitions such as minimize, maximize, Flip 3D and
>> numerous other functional friendliness in the OS.
>
>
> So you like it, many I know think it garish and ugly and contributing an
> overall negative to functionality since it makes many things much harder
> to read.

"Charlie Tame" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
>
> So you like it, many I know think it garish and ugly and contributing an
> overall negative to functionality since it makes many things much harder
> to read.


And many find reading in general difficult, as 25% of Americans failed to
even read a single book in a years time.
Please, when using "generalizations", consider the mixture in the pot.
It is quite distasteful.

What I'm saying is, ms is putting too much effort on the user interface, so
much that the underlying fundamental functionality is not properly furnished
by the time of launching. Personally, I want my computing experience to be
more fun and entertaining, but please ... , functionality is always number
one.

Smackbook was initially created on may 2007 by some apple geeks, two months
later ibm posted the similar stuff for their linux system. There is also a
version for symbian os. From windows? Not a word yet. Look at these OSes,
they are minority in this world, yet they do a superb job, they can cover
every aspect of the hardware where they reside. I believe this is a very
good example of how deep an OS should cover and support the underlying
hardware. One of the fundamental function of any OS

I'm not a programmer. I don't know how easy or difficult to write something
like that -- I'm just a caveat user. After installing vista starter 3 weeks
ago, I run into various problems. Most of them are very fundemental. So
fundamental that from my point of view shouldn't take place with such a
mature OS like windows. An example is: glitches around sleep or hibernation,
come on guys, we already do sleep and hibernate and resuming since 1997,
that was ten years ago. Why can't ms do it right?

What about backward compatibility? I'm having problem with tungsten t3 --
used to be working well with win2k and xp, palm only posted a new driver
that 'not so compatible' with vista. I don't understand this usb connection
stuff, it's already a standard everywhere, why would ms messing up with it
again.


"Andre Da Costa [ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
news:01858E43-C202-453C-B5CC-...
> Have you checked out some distributions of Linux using Beryl and Compiz?
> If that type of eye candy was real candy, a lot dentist would be
> billionaires. Vista based on my experiences with the OS since last year is
> that everything is done judiciously and conservatively. Yes, its eye candy
> done a professional way, not over whelming or trying to out do. Compiz and
> Beryl for focus on outdoing Vista, which should be the aim. AERO Glass is
> about focusing on the content of an applications main window, removing the
> distraction of title bar, adding dynamic focus and attention through
> transitions such as minimize, maximize, Flip 3D and numerous other
> functional friendliness in the OS.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "bamsan" <> wrote in message
> news:23EDEB67-0FBB-436D-849D-...
>>I cannot say that vista improvement over the user interface is major
>>improvement. They are mere eye candy. Check this out:
>>http://blogs.pcworld.com/tipsandtwea...es/002146.html
>>
>> This is what I called improvement
>

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:54:06 +0800, "bamsan" <>
wrote:

>What I'm saying is, ms is putting too much effort on the user interface, so
>much that the underlying fundamental functionality is not properly furnished
>by the time of launching. Personally, I want my computing experience to be
>more fun and entertaining, but please ... , functionality is always number
>one.

I agree. So-called eye candy has a place, everyone appreciates a
better looking slicker desktop and tools. Vista is prettier than XP.
Whoopee! However, as usual the fanboy crowd miss the point. It seems
Microsoft invested much more time fiddling with appearances and
skimmed over functionality improvements.

For example I find it inexcusable that they let Vista ship knowing
copy/move/delete performance has actually downgraded (for some) from
XP causing untold numbers of people to wonder why it takes forever to
copy a file from one location to another. In my opinion, that's
reckless.

Another example is UAC. Anyone with any computer smarts at all knows
what it provides it is mostly bullshit. It's little more than
unnecessary and resented hand holding. While in concept a welcome
change since XP sucked in providing security, again Vista got out the
door with this feature forced on users and poorly implemented. So
again, a good idea, but obviously clumsy and unfinished.

I find it laughable that Microsoft took five years and at the start of
development had lots of hopes and dreams for Vista, ie, their now
discredited wow factor, but they dropped the ball over and over
pulling one real tangible improvement after another from early designs
resulting in little more than some overpriced face life. Five years
time and over a billion in development costs what we got is well, lets
just say disappointing.

Call me a cynic if you must, but the reality seems a lot of what got
pulled from Vista was intentional. We as customers have been set up to
anticipate the next version of Windows which may include some of
things that we were told were to be part of Vista. I for one am tired
of being treated like a greyhound in some dog race, where a mechanical
rabbit causes the dogs to chase after it and it of course just remains
out of reach so the dogs keep chasing it around the race track.

P. T. Barnum would be proud of Ballmer. There's also the wait till
next time carrot he dangles in front of customers. I'm tired of
playing that game.