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ashinbrot
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      12-26-2009
Here's my suggestion, on my way to downloading google chrome: stop helping me.

As far as I can tell from my two weeks with IE8 running on Windows 7 there
are hidden hot keys, or combinations of keys that when inadvertently struck,
open and close windows in unintended ways that I find incredibly irritating.
This is what I refer to as "helping me". If I wanted hot keys, I would have
installed them, and the presumption of the IE team that I must have them by
default is astonishing. I admit to not being the world's most accurate
typist, but I thought almost the entire point of owning a computer was to
make that no longer a necessity. I guess I thought wrong.

Specifically I have had numerous occasions when I'm merrily typing along, in
a window very much like this one, when everything suddenly stops and the
Favorites window opens. Same thing, periodically with the Open window; I
don't know, and haven't bothered to care enough to find out exactly what it
thinks I want to open (that is, what exactly kind of Open window this is).

I've also noticed that rapidly entering an already existing website name in
the address bar fouls up my attempt to navigate to that site. Trying to go to
mail.yahoo.com, for example, allows me to complete the mail.y part; if I am
foolish enough to keep typing, I find myself at hoo.com, or some such. That's
a lot of fun. Stop helping me here, too. Thanks, I can complete the word
'yahoo' myself. As in, Bill Gates must hire nothing but yahoos.

But finally, that's not why I'm switching to google chrome. I'm switching to
google chrome because of the third and most annoying hidden action of
all--the one where typing in a window causes the window to close. It doesn't
crash, mind you; it closes the window, forever and irrevocably, almost as if
I had chosen to do so, except of course I didn't. This wouldn't be quite as
annoying as it is, if it didn't (of course) take all my work in a window up
to that point with it.

I searched google for IE8 hotkeys and found nothing useful. Insofar as this
is a brand new installation on a brand new Dell, I can only conclude one of
two things must be true. Either I am hopelessly out of step with what the
geniuses in Redmond think I must have, or a brand new installation is
hopelessly flawed, and the same geniuses are so incompetent as to defy
belief. It's gotta be one of the two.

Either one is unacceptable and I am outta here.







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Peter Foldes
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      12-26-2009
Bye Bye. Hope you feel better after this rant of yours

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"ashinbrot" <> wrote in message
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> Here's my suggestion, on my way to downloading google chrome: stop helping me.
>
> As far as I can tell from my two weeks with IE8 running on Windows 7 there
> are hidden hot keys, or combinations of keys that when inadvertently struck,
> open and close windows in unintended ways that I find incredibly irritating.
> This is what I refer to as "helping me". If I wanted hot keys, I would have
> installed them, and the presumption of the IE team that I must have them by
> default is astonishing. I admit to not being the world's most accurate
> typist, but I thought almost the entire point of owning a computer was to
> make that no longer a necessity. I guess I thought wrong.
>
> Specifically I have had numerous occasions when I'm merrily typing along, in
> a window very much like this one, when everything suddenly stops and the
> Favorites window opens. Same thing, periodically with the Open window; I
> don't know, and haven't bothered to care enough to find out exactly what it
> thinks I want to open (that is, what exactly kind of Open window this is).
>
> I've also noticed that rapidly entering an already existing website name in
> the address bar fouls up my attempt to navigate to that site. Trying to go to
> mail.yahoo.com, for example, allows me to complete the mail.y part; if I am
> foolish enough to keep typing, I find myself at hoo.com, or some such. That's
> a lot of fun. Stop helping me here, too. Thanks, I can complete the word
> 'yahoo' myself. As in, Bill Gates must hire nothing but yahoos.
>
> But finally, that's not why I'm switching to google chrome. I'm switching to
> google chrome because of the third and most annoying hidden action of
> all--the one where typing in a window causes the window to close. It doesn't
> crash, mind you; it closes the window, forever and irrevocably, almost as if
> I had chosen to do so, except of course I didn't. This wouldn't be quite as
> annoying as it is, if it didn't (of course) take all my work in a window up
> to that point with it.
>
> I searched google for IE8 hotkeys and found nothing useful. Insofar as this
> is a brand new installation on a brand new Dell, I can only conclude one of
> two things must be true. Either I am hopelessly out of step with what the
> geniuses in Redmond think I must have, or a brand new installation is
> hopelessly flawed, and the same geniuses are so incompetent as to defy
> belief. It's gotta be one of the two.
>
> Either one is unacceptable and I am outta here.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...plorer.general


 
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N. Miller
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      12-26-2009
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:32:01 -0800, ashinbrot wrote:

> Here's my suggestion, on my way to downloading google chrome: stop helping me.
>
> As far as I can tell from my two weeks with IE8 running on Windows 7 there
> are hidden hot keys, or combinations of keys that when inadvertently struck,
> open and close windows in unintended ways that I find incredibly irritating.
> This is what I refer to as "helping me". If I wanted hot keys, I would have
> installed them, and the presumption of the IE team that I must have them by
> default is astonishing. I admit to not being the world's most accurate
> typist, but I thought almost the entire point of owning a computer was to
> make that no longer a necessity. I guess I thought wrong.
>
> Specifically I have had numerous occasions when I'm merrily typing along, in
> a window very much like this one, when everything suddenly stops and the
> Favorites window opens. Same thing, periodically with the Open window; I
> don't know, and haven't bothered to care enough to find out exactly what it
> thinks I want to open (that is, what exactly kind of Open window this is).


I am not aware of any "hidden hot keys". I know that there are select
keyboard shortcuts; but they normally require more than a single stroke to
activate. Take your "Favorites" issue: Keyboard short cut is [Alt]+[C].
When, ever, does a touch typist hold down the [Alt] key while typing? Though
I guess it could be possible to be trying to type [Shift]+[C], and
accidentally hit the [Alt] key instead of the [Shift] key; but wouldn't that
be more of an issue with the typist's competence than Microsoft's
programming competence?

> I've also noticed that rapidly entering an already existing website name in
> the address bar fouls up my attempt to navigate to that site. Trying to go to
> mail.yahoo.com, for example, allows me to complete the mail.y part; if I am
> foolish enough to keep typing, I find myself at hoo.com, or some such. That's
> a lot of fun. Stop helping me here, too. Thanks, I can complete the word
> 'yahoo' myself. As in, Bill Gates must hire nothing but yahoos.


Internet Options. Content tab. What settings have you selected in the
"Autocomplete" menu?

> But finally, that's not why I'm switching to google chrome. I'm switching to
> google chrome because of the third and most annoying hidden action of
> all--the one where typing in a window causes the window to close. It doesn't
> crash, mind you; it closes the window, forever and irrevocably, almost as if
> I had chosen to do so, except of course I didn't. This wouldn't be quite as
> annoying as it is, if it didn't (of course) take all my work in a window up
> to that point with it.


Never had that happen. However, in another browser (Opera, which I use more
often than MSIE) my incompetence as a touch typist has triggered unexpected,
unwanted events. But it all goes back to the competence of the typists. I
actually curse the placement of the [Windows] key, on occasion, as my
stumbling on the keyboard has been known to trigger the Windows menu.

> I searched google for IE8 hotkeys and found nothing useful.


Look harder:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...oard-shortcuts

The advice applies equally to MS Internet Explorer 8. I searched on
"keyboard shortcuts" (not "hot keys").

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/217148

The advice applies equally to MS Internet Explorer 8. I searched on
"autocomplete".

> Insofar as this is a brand new installation on a brand new Dell, I can only
> conclude one of two things must be true. Either I am hopelessly out of step
> with what the geniuses in Redmond think I must have, or a brand new installation
> is hopelessly flawed, and the same geniuses are so incompetent as to defy
> belief. It's gotta be one of the two.


You are forgetting, or ignoring the third possiblity: Typist is incompetent.
Learn where the various keys are located on your keyboard. Don't hit the
[Alt] key while reaching for the [Shift] key. On a standard, full sized,
US-101 PC keyboard, the basic typing keys occupy the same relative positions
as on any common typewriter.

> Either one is unacceptable and I am outta here.


I doubt you will be happier with another browser if you can't type well. You
may be happier with another browser for other reasons (I prefer Opera to
MSIE). But a competent craftsman does not blame his tools for his own
shortcomings.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
 
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VanguardLH
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      12-26-2009
ashinbrot wrote:

> Here's my suggestion, on my way to downloading google chrome: stop helping me.
>
> As far as I can tell from my two weeks with IE8 running on Windows 7 there
> are hidden hot keys, or combinations of keys that when inadvertently struck,
> open and close windows in unintended ways that I find incredibly irritating.
> This is what I refer to as "helping me". If I wanted hot keys, I would have
> installed them, and the presumption of the IE team that I must have them by
> default is astonishing. I admit to not being the world's most accurate
> typist, but I thought almost the entire point of owning a computer was to
> make that no longer a necessity. I guess I thought wrong.
>
> Specifically I have had numerous occasions when I'm merrily typing along, in
> a window very much like this one, when everything suddenly stops and the
> Favorites window opens. Same thing, periodically with the Open window; I
> don't know, and haven't bothered to care enough to find out exactly what it
> thinks I want to open (that is, what exactly kind of Open window this is).
>
> I've also noticed that rapidly entering an already existing website name in
> the address bar fouls up my attempt to navigate to that site. Trying to go to
> mail.yahoo.com, for example, allows me to complete the mail.y part; if I am
> foolish enough to keep typing, I find myself at hoo.com, or some such. That's
> a lot of fun. Stop helping me here, too. Thanks, I can complete the word
> 'yahoo' myself. As in, Bill Gates must hire nothing but yahoos.
>
> But finally, that's not why I'm switching to google chrome. I'm switching to
> google chrome because of the third and most annoying hidden action of
> all--the one where typing in a window causes the window to close. It doesn't
> crash, mind you; it closes the window, forever and irrevocably, almost as if
> I had chosen to do so, except of course I didn't. This wouldn't be quite as
> annoying as it is, if it didn't (of course) take all my work in a window up
> to that point with it.
>
> I searched google for IE8 hotkeys and found nothing useful. Insofar as this
> is a brand new installation on a brand new Dell, I can only conclude one of
> two things must be true. Either I am hopelessly out of step with what the
> geniuses in Redmond think I must have, or a brand new installation is
> hopelessly flawed, and the same geniuses are so incompetent as to defy
> belief. It's gotta be one of the two.
>
> Either one is unacceptable and I am outta here.


And you think we *users* here in Usenet care about your choice of a web
browser? So you came up with an excuse to switch. Obviously you have never
even bothered to actually trial several different web browsers to pick one
or two that you prefer. You've let others make your choices.

What is Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups
http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm
http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp

When using a webnews-for-dummies interface, like Microsoft's Communities or
Google Groups or a forum-to-Usenet proxy, those are gateways to Usenet.
Despite the appearance of a forum, you are participating in a newsgroup
(Usenet).

> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, ...


And your suggestion was WHAT? Yeah, you didn't have one. Just bitching.
The suggestion is that you visit your public library and start reading some
Dummies books.

You can't even figure out how to use the webnews-for-dummies interface that
Microsoft provides as a gateway to Usenet. No wonder you have such
difficulties using IE with all its available options. Yep, Chrome with its
minimal configurability is truly within the realm of your comprehension.
 
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bobster
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      12-26-2009
Bye Bye. Don't let the MS door hit you on the way out.

Anytime I see the last paragraph of a post start with ---"This post is a
suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft....."
I understand that the poster is an ABMer and is best ignored.

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"ashinbrot" <> wrote in message
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Here's my suggestion, on my way to downloading google chrome: stop helping
me.

As far as I can tell from my two weeks with IE8 running on Windows 7 there
are hidden hot keys, or combinations of keys that when inadvertently struck,
open and close windows in unintended ways that I find incredibly irritating.
This is what I refer to as "helping me". If I wanted hot keys, I would have
installed them, and the presumption of the IE team that I must have them by
default is astonishing. I admit to not being the world's most accurate
typist, but I thought almost the entire point of owning a computer was to
make that no longer a necessity. I guess I thought wrong.

Specifically I have had numerous occasions when I'm merrily typing along, in
a window very much like this one, when everything suddenly stops and the
Favorites window opens. Same thing, periodically with the Open window; I
don't know, and haven't bothered to care enough to find out exactly what it
thinks I want to open (that is, what exactly kind of Open window this is).

I've also noticed that rapidly entering an already existing website name in
the address bar fouls up my attempt to navigate to that site. Trying to go
to
mail.yahoo.com, for example, allows me to complete the mail.y part; if I am
foolish enough to keep typing, I find myself at hoo.com, or some such.
That's
a lot of fun. Stop helping me here, too. Thanks, I can complete the word
'yahoo' myself. As in, Bill Gates must hire nothing but yahoos.

But finally, that's not why I'm switching to google chrome. I'm switching to
google chrome because of the third and most annoying hidden action of
all--the one where typing in a window causes the window to close. It doesn't
crash, mind you; it closes the window, forever and irrevocably, almost as if
I had chosen to do so, except of course I didn't. This wouldn't be quite as
annoying as it is, if it didn't (of course) take all my work in a window up
to that point with it.

I searched google for IE8 hotkeys and found nothing useful. Insofar as this
is a brand new installation on a brand new Dell, I can only conclude one of
two things must be true. Either I am hopelessly out of step with what the
geniuses in Redmond think I must have, or a brand new installation is
hopelessly flawed, and the same geniuses are so incompetent as to defy
belief. It's gotta be one of the two.

Either one is unacceptable and I am outta here.







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PA Bear [MS MVP]
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      12-26-2009
<yawn>

You could always RTFM. See IE8 Help | Internet Explorer keyboard shortcuts


ashinbrot wrote:
> Here's my suggestion, on my way to downloading google chrome: stop helping
> me.
>
> As far as I can tell from my two weeks with IE8 running on Windows 7 there
> are hidden hot keys, or combinations of keys that when inadvertently
> struck,
> open and close windows in unintended ways that I find incredibly
> irritating.
> This is what I refer to as "helping me". If I wanted hot keys, I would
> have
> installed them, and the presumption of the IE team that I must have them
> by
> default is astonishing. I admit to not being the world's most accurate
> typist, but I thought almost the entire point of owning a computer was to
> make that no longer a necessity. I guess I thought wrong.
>
> Specifically I have had numerous occasions when I'm merrily typing along,
> in
> a window very much like this one, when everything suddenly stops and the
> Favorites window opens. Same thing, periodically with the Open window; I
> don't know, and haven't bothered to care enough to find out exactly what
> it
> thinks I want to open (that is, what exactly kind of Open window this is).
>
> I've also noticed that rapidly entering an already existing website name
> in
> the address bar fouls up my attempt to navigate to that site. Trying to go
> to mail.yahoo.com, for example, allows me to complete the mail.y part; if
> I
> am foolish enough to keep typing, I find myself at hoo.com, or some such.
> That's a lot of fun. Stop helping me here, too. Thanks, I can complete the
> word 'yahoo' myself. As in, Bill Gates must hire nothing but yahoos.
>
> But finally, that's not why I'm switching to google chrome. I'm switching
> to
> google chrome because of the third and most annoying hidden action of
> all--the one where typing in a window causes the window to close. It
> doesn't
> crash, mind you; it closes the window, forever and irrevocably, almost as
> if
> I had chosen to do so, except of course I didn't. This wouldn't be quite
> as
> annoying as it is, if it didn't (of course) take all my work in a window
> up
> to that point with it.
>
> I searched google for IE8 hotkeys and found nothing useful. Insofar as
> this
> is a brand new installation on a brand new Dell, I can only conclude one
> of
> two things must be true. Either I am hopelessly out of step with what the
> geniuses in Redmond think I must have, or a brand new installation is
> hopelessly flawed, and the same geniuses are so incompetent as to defy
> belief. It's gotta be one of the two.
>
> Either one is unacceptable and I am outta here.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...plorer.general


 
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G. R. Woodring
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      12-26-2009
Most of the suggestions you have received have been based on your admitted lack
of expertise in typing. Some of them have lacked tact or even been insulting,
partly because of the disdainful "I am outta here" with which you ended your post.

You state you have only been using Windows 7 and IE8 for two weeks. In another
post you add that this is a new machine. I believe the problems you are
experiencing are not OS or IE problems but a difference in the layout or feel of
your new keyboard. The problems you describe are very likely caused by
hitting Ctrl instead of Shift.

The Favorites Center will open with Ctrl-I, It will also open with Ctrl-J and
Ctrl-H with the Feeds or History tabs selected, respectively.

If you hit Ctrl-W it will close the window (or tab).

If possible try attaching your old keyboard to the new computer and see if your
typing skills improve :-) If you no longer have the old keyboard you will
either have to get used to the new one or find a replacement with better key
placement/spacing and feel.

I don't have a problem with the IE8 address bar. If I ignore the dropdown and
continue typing I can complete the address without IE interfering. If the
dropdown is distracting you it can be turned off. From IE8 help:

<quote>
To turn AutoComplete on or off

Click the Tools button, and then click Internet Options.
Click the Content tab, and then, under AutoComplete, click Settings.
Select the check box beside each AutoComplete option you want to turn on, and
then click OK twice.
</quote>

--
G. R. Woodring

Date: 12/26/2009 10:32 AM, Author: ashinbrot Wrote:
> Here's my suggestion, on my way to downloading google chrome: stop helping me.
>
> As far as I can tell from my two weeks with IE8 running on Windows 7 there
> are hidden hot keys, or combinations of keys that when inadvertently struck,
> open and close windows in unintended ways that I find incredibly irritating.
> This is what I refer to as "helping me". If I wanted hot keys, I would have
> installed them, and the presumption of the IE team that I must have them by
> default is astonishing. I admit to not being the world's most accurate
> typist, but I thought almost the entire point of owning a computer was to
> make that no longer a necessity. I guess I thought wrong.
>
> Specifically I have had numerous occasions when I'm merrily typing along, in
> a window very much like this one, when everything suddenly stops and the
> Favorites window opens. Same thing, periodically with the Open window; I
> don't know, and haven't bothered to care enough to find out exactly what it
> thinks I want to open (that is, what exactly kind of Open window this is).
>
> I've also noticed that rapidly entering an already existing website name in
> the address bar fouls up my attempt to navigate to that site. Trying to go to
> mail.yahoo.com, for example, allows me to complete the mail.y part; if I am
> foolish enough to keep typing, I find myself at hoo.com, or some such. That's
> a lot of fun. Stop helping me here, too. Thanks, I can complete the word
> 'yahoo' myself. As in, Bill Gates must hire nothing but yahoos.
>
> But finally, that's not why I'm switching to google chrome. I'm switching to
> google chrome because of the third and most annoying hidden action of
> all--the one where typing in a window causes the window to close. It doesn't
> crash, mind you; it closes the window, forever and irrevocably, almost as if
> I had chosen to do so, except of course I didn't. This wouldn't be quite as
> annoying as it is, if it didn't (of course) take all my work in a window up
> to that point with it.
>
> I searched google for IE8 hotkeys and found nothing useful. Insofar as this
> is a brand new installation on a brand new Dell, I can only conclude one of
> two things must be true. Either I am hopelessly out of step with what the
> geniuses in Redmond think I must have, or a brand new installation is
> hopelessly flawed, and the same geniuses are so incompetent as to defy
> belief. It's gotta be one of the two.
>
> Either one is unacceptable and I am outta here.
>
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, .. No it isn't!

 
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rob^_^
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      12-26-2009
Good Reply GR.

Regards.

"G. R. Woodring" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Most of the suggestions you have received have been based on your admitted
> lack of expertise in typing. Some of them have lacked tact or even been
> insulting, partly because of the disdainful "I am outta here" with which
> you ended your post.
>
> You state you have only been using Windows 7 and IE8 for two weeks. In
> another post you add that this is a new machine. I believe the problems
> you are experiencing are not OS or IE problems but a difference in the
> layout or feel of your new keyboard. The problems you describe are very
> likely caused by hitting Ctrl instead of Shift.
>
> The Favorites Center will open with Ctrl-I, It will also open with Ctrl-J
> and Ctrl-H with the Feeds or History tabs selected, respectively.
>
> If you hit Ctrl-W it will close the window (or tab).
>
> If possible try attaching your old keyboard to the new computer and see if
> your typing skills improve :-) If you no longer have the old keyboard you
> will either have to get used to the new one or find a replacement with
> better key placement/spacing and feel.
>
> I don't have a problem with the IE8 address bar. If I ignore the dropdown
> and continue typing I can complete the address without IE interfering. If
> the dropdown is distracting you it can be turned off. From IE8 help:
>
> <quote>
> To turn AutoComplete on or off
>
> Click the Tools button, and then click Internet Options.
> Click the Content tab, and then, under AutoComplete, click Settings.
> Select the check box beside each AutoComplete option you want to turn on,
> and then click OK twice.
> </quote>
>
> --
> G. R. Woodring
>
> Date: 12/26/2009 10:32 AM, Author: ashinbrot Wrote:
>> Here's my suggestion, on my way to downloading google chrome: stop
>> helping me. As far as I can tell from my two weeks with IE8 running on
>> Windows 7 there are hidden hot keys, or combinations of keys that when
>> inadvertently struck, open and close windows in unintended ways that I
>> find incredibly irritating. This is what I refer to as "helping me". If I
>> wanted hot keys, I would have installed them, and the presumption of the
>> IE team that I must have them by default is astonishing. I admit to not
>> being the world's most accurate typist, but I thought almost the entire
>> point of owning a computer was to make that no longer a necessity. I
>> guess I thought wrong. Specifically I have had numerous occasions when
>> I'm merrily typing along, in a window very much like this one, when
>> everything suddenly stops and the Favorites window opens. Same thing,
>> periodically with the Open window; I don't know, and haven't bothered to
>> care enough to find out exactly what it thinks I want to open (that is,
>> what exactly kind of Open window this is). I've also noticed that rapidly
>> entering an already existing website name in the address bar fouls up my
>> attempt to navigate to that site. Trying to go to mail.yahoo.com, for
>> example, allows me to complete the mail.y part; if I am foolish enough to
>> keep typing, I find myself at hoo.com, or some such. That's a lot of fun.
>> Stop helping me here, too. Thanks, I can complete the word 'yahoo'
>> myself. As in, Bill Gates must hire nothing but yahoos. But finally,
>> that's not why I'm switching to google chrome. I'm switching to google
>> chrome because of the third and most annoying hidden action of all--the
>> one where typing in a window causes the window to close. It doesn't
>> crash, mind you; it closes the window, forever and irrevocably, almost as
>> if I had chosen to do so, except of course I didn't. This wouldn't be
>> quite as annoying as it is, if it didn't (of course) take all my work in
>> a window up to that point with it. I searched google for IE8 hotkeys and
>> found nothing useful. Insofar as this is a brand new installation on a
>> brand new Dell, I can only conclude one of two things must be true.
>> Either I am hopelessly out of step with what the geniuses in Redmond
>> think I must have, or a brand new installation is hopelessly flawed, and
>> the same geniuses are so incompetent as to defy belief. It's gotta be one
>> of the two.
>>
>> Either one is unacceptable and I am outta here.
>>
>>
>>
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      12-27-2009
*Exellent* reply, G.R.

G. R. Woodring wrote:
> Most of the suggestions you have received have been based on your
> admitted lack of expertise in typing. Some of them have lacked tact
> or even been insulting, partly because of the disdainful "I am outta
> here" with which you ended your post.
> You state you have only been using Windows 7 and IE8 for two weeks. In
> another post you add that this is a new machine. I believe the
> problems you are experiencing are not OS or IE problems but a
> difference in the layout or feel of your new keyboard. The problems
> you describe are very likely caused by hitting Ctrl instead of Shift.
>
> The Favorites Center will open with Ctrl-I, It will also open with
> Ctrl-J and Ctrl-H with the Feeds or History tabs selected,
> respectively.
> If you hit Ctrl-W it will close the window (or tab).
>
> If possible try attaching your old keyboard to the new computer and
> see if your typing skills improve :-) If you no longer have the old
> keyboard you will either have to get used to the new one or find a
> replacement with
> better key placement/spacing and feel.
>
> I don't have a problem with the IE8 address bar. If I ignore the
> dropdown and continue typing I can complete the address without IE
> interfering. If the dropdown is distracting you it can be turned
> off. From IE8 help:
> <quote>
> To turn AutoComplete on or off
>
> Click the Tools button, and then click Internet Options.
> Click the Content tab, and then, under AutoComplete, click Settings.
> Select the check box beside each AutoComplete option you want to turn
> on, and then click OK twice.
> </quote>
>
>
> Date: 12/26/2009 10:32 AM, Author: ashinbrot Wrote:
>> Here's my suggestion, on my way to downloading google chrome: stop
>> helping me. As far as I can tell from my two weeks with IE8 running
>> on Windows 7
>> there are hidden hot keys, or combinations of keys that when
>> inadvertently struck, open and close windows in unintended ways that
>> I find incredibly irritating. This is what I refer to as "helping
>> me". If I wanted hot keys, I would have installed them, and the
>> presumption of the IE team that I must have them by default is
>> astonishing. I admit to not being the world's most accurate typist,
>> but I thought almost the entire point of owning a computer was to
>> make that no longer a necessity. I guess I thought wrong.
>> Specifically I have had numerous occasions when I'm merrily typing
>> along, in a window very much like this one, when everything suddenly
>> stops and the Favorites window opens. Same thing, periodically with
>> the Open window; I don't know, and haven't bothered to care enough
>> to find out exactly what it thinks I want to open (that is, what
>> exactly kind of Open window this is). I've also noticed that rapidly
>> entering an already existing website
>> name in the address bar fouls up my attempt to navigate to that
>> site. Trying to go to mail.yahoo.com, for example, allows me to
>> complete the mail.y part; if I am foolish enough to keep typing, I
>> find myself at hoo.com, or some such. That's a lot of fun. Stop
>> helping me here, too. Thanks, I can complete the word 'yahoo'
>> myself. As in, Bill Gates must hire nothing but yahoos. But finally,
>> that's not why I'm switching to google chrome. I'm
>> switching to google chrome because of the third and most annoying
>> hidden action of all--the one where typing in a window causes the
>> window to close. It doesn't crash, mind you; it closes the window,
>> forever and irrevocably, almost as if I had chosen to do so, except
>> of course I didn't. This wouldn't be quite as annoying as it is, if
>> it didn't (of course) take all my work in a window up to that point
>> with it. I searched google for IE8 hotkeys and found nothing useful.
>> Insofar
>> as this is a brand new installation on a brand new Dell, I can only
>> conclude one of two things must be true. Either I am hopelessly out
>> of step with what the geniuses in Redmond think I must have, or a
>> brand new installation is hopelessly flawed, and the same geniuses
>> are so incompetent as to defy belief. It's gotta be one of the two.
>>
>> Either one is unacceptable and I am outta here.
>>
>>
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      12-28-2009
Thanks for the kind remarks Daave and rob^_^. I usually try to ignore the
attitude that posters express when posting a problem. I have been subscribed to
the Firefox and Thunderbird groups for years and this group for several months
and I recognize that frustration can lead to a bad attitude. Every new version
of any program creates waves of complaints. Hopefully the OP will feel better
if they get some help, or at least sympathy.

--
G. R. Woodring

Date: 12/27/2009 9:43 AM, Author: Daave Wrote:
> *Exellent* reply, G.R.
>
> G. R. Woodring wrote:
>>

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>> Date: 12/26/2009 10:32 AM, Author: ashinbrot Wrote:
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