Stop Junk Mail from downloading? (on SP2)

I installed SP2 hoping to reduce the volume of junk mail (over 10/hour) that
downloads from my e/mail server (provided by Earthlink) to my PC. I'm on a
boat and frequent must use an expensive satellite link for e/mail.

I have already reduced the maximum size of downloaded mail to a practical
minumum - and put hundreds of spammers in my blocked e/mail list. The
combination does a good job of sending nearly all junk to the junk mail
folder - but it is still downloaded - costing me lots of time and $$$ that
could be filtered and discarded by the server.

Earthlink suggests I prescan all e/mail with MAIL2WEB - a suggestion clearly
made by a person who doesn't use computers from a boat - but no one seems to
know how to set up the server to not download in the first place.

I'd appreciate any help. Thank you

Invest in a spam filter... I use Spamcop. All my mail is forwarded from my
ISP to my Spamcop email address where adjustable filters search out the spam
and hold it for reporting later on if you wish, or you can just cancel it.
My email client here pops SC every 5 minutes for the good mail. Out of some
70 - 80 emails per day I get the four or five that are actually meant for
me. I haven't received a single spam in my inbox in over a month.
$30/year.

--
Peter.
Toronto, Canada.
XP Home SP2.
P4 Dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HD, 1.0gb DDR.
"Capt. Stuart Bell" <Capt. Stuart > wrote in
message news:42C00DF5-B630-4683-B5AA-...
>I installed SP2 hoping to reduce the volume of junk mail (over 10/hour)
>that
> downloads from my e/mail server (provided by Earthlink) to my PC. I'm on
> a
> boat and frequent must use an expensive satellite link for e/mail.
>
> I have already reduced the maximum size of downloaded mail to a practical
> minumum - and put hundreds of spammers in my blocked e/mail list. The
> combination does a good job of sending nearly all junk to the junk mail
> folder - but it is still downloaded - costing me lots of time and $$$ that
> could be filtered and discarded by the server.
>
> Earthlink suggests I prescan all e/mail with MAIL2WEB - a suggestion
> clearly
> made by a person who doesn't use computers from a boat - but no one seems
> to
> know how to set up the server to not download in the first place.
>
> I'd appreciate any help. Thank you

Thank you. I will contact Spamcop and see about using it.

BTW, can you keep your same e/mail address? Our domain
shearwater-sailing.com is known among our friends and I'd like to retain it.


"Peter" wrote:

> Invest in a spam filter... I use Spamcop. All my mail is forwarded from my
> ISP to my Spamcop email address where adjustable filters search out the spam
> and hold it for reporting later on if you wish, or you can just cancel it.
> My email client here pops SC every 5 minutes for the good mail. Out of some
> 70 - 80 emails per day I get the four or five that are actually meant for
> me. I haven't received a single spam in my inbox in over a month.
> $30/year.
>
> --
> Peter.
> Toronto, Canada.
> XP Home SP2.
> P4 Dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HD, 1.0gb DDR.
> "Capt. Stuart Bell" <Capt. Stuart > wrote in
> message news:42C00DF5-B630-4683-B5AA-...
> >I installed SP2 hoping to reduce the volume of junk mail (over 10/hour)
> >that
> > downloads from my e/mail server (provided by Earthlink) to my PC. I'm on
> > a
> > boat and frequent must use an expensive satellite link for e/mail.
> >
> > I have already reduced the maximum size of downloaded mail to a practical
> > minumum - and put hundreds of spammers in my blocked e/mail list. The
> > combination does a good job of sending nearly all junk to the junk mail
> > folder - but it is still downloaded - costing me lots of time and $$$ that
> > could be filtered and discarded by the server.
> >
> > Earthlink suggests I prescan all e/mail with MAIL2WEB - a suggestion
> > clearly
> > made by a person who doesn't use computers from a boat - but no one seems
> > to
> > know how to set up the server to not download in the first place.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any help. Thank you
>
>
>

You say that your email is provided by Earthlink...have you configured your
account's Earthlink Spamblocker on the Earthlink Web Mail page to block
everything except the email addresses that you have specified ? It's here:
https://webmail.pas.earthlink.net
Doing that should eliminate any email from being downloaded at all it will
be deleted automatically before you download it. We've been doing that for
quite a while and it is very good at removing all email that you don't have
an address specified for in the Earthlink configuration page.

Now for my question to you....just how expensive are we talking for the sat.
link? It would seem to me that anyone that can buy and maintain a boat and
do the traveling like I see at http://www.shearwater-sailing.com/ would not
have a problem paying for a "minor" expense like a satellite link for their
computer. No offense intended but it does not make sense to me at all.
HTH,
Bob
"Capt. Stuart Bell" <Capt. Stuart > wrote in
message news:42C00DF5-B630-4683-B5AA-...
>I installed SP2 hoping to reduce the volume of junk mail (over 10/hour)
>that
> downloads from my e/mail server (provided by Earthlink) to my PC. I'm on
> a
> boat and frequent must use an expensive satellite link for e/mail.
>
> I have already reduced the maximum size of downloaded mail to a practical
> minumum - and put hundreds of spammers in my blocked e/mail list. The
> combination does a good job of sending nearly all junk to the junk mail
> folder - but it is still downloaded - costing me lots of time and $$$ that
> could be filtered and discarded by the server.
>
> Earthlink suggests I prescan all e/mail with MAIL2WEB - a suggestion
> clearly
> made by a person who doesn't use computers from a boat - but no one seems
> to
> know how to set up the server to not download in the first place.
>
> I'd appreciate any help. Thank you

Bob,

I went to the Earthlink web site - and contacted their technical support.
Spam blocking is provided by Earthlink for address such as:



But not for address such as

Earthlink is the host and provider for our web site - and our e/mail
<virtual> server. As I understand it, they provide a raw server with no
enhancements for e/mail - and a web server with FrontPage extensions for web
hosting. This was good enough until the junk mail barrage started.

As to the expense of junk e/mail via a sat. link. No offense taken - and as
noted in the site, expense is often more than just money. I get up to 100
junk e/mails a day - fortunately, I don't search porn sites or it might go
into the 1,000s. E/bay (we listed for a while), mortgage searching, and a
few catalog purchases got us on the lists. Only a very few of them are
"offensive" - although they don't offend me, I just delete them.

Given that volume, and the 2.4 kbps/second speed of Iridium, it takes 2 to 3
hours per day (at $1.50/minute) to download and trash my junk mail. Assuming
I wanted to spend the bucks (I'd rather donate it to storm relief), the POP3
server at Earthlink only deletes outgoing e/mail when it gets an
acknowledgement that ALL e/mail has been successfully transmitted. I am
nearly never able to keep the Iridium link up for 3+ hours - with the result
that I get the first (say) 1/2 of the e/mail many times and don't ever get a
note from my kids if it is near the end of the batch.

What I must do is use a tool such as mail2web, manually delete the e/mail,
read the few pieces of real mail, and invoke Outlook to read and save any
really important e/mail.

Budget is a matter of money, space, time, patience and . . . well, you get
the picture.

Thanks for the pointer, I'll try the link again.

HI Stuart,
if you use outlook express to download your emails you can configure it so
that you don't download certain emails from your server, just open outlook
express and click on tools, then click on mesage rules, click on mail, then
click new.
you can then configure outlook to not download messages that are from
certain addresses and/ or contain certain words and/ or have a certain words
in the subject line. Have a play with it. Also try setting up an annonymous
email account with either hotmail or yahoo and when you have to subscribe to
mailing lists use this email addy, that way any junk goes to that address and
you don't have to spend hours downloading what you don't want.
If your getting mail from eBay you can unsubscribe from it by simply
clicking reply and typing unsubscribe in the subject line, have a look at
some of the other junk mail you are getting there may be a way of getting of
their list.
Hope this helps, best of luck

"Capt. Stuart Bell" wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I went to the Earthlink web site - and contacted their technical support.
> Spam blocking is provided by Earthlink for address such as:
>
>
>
> But not for address such as
>
> Earthlink is the host and provider for our web site - and our e/mail
> <virtual> server. As I understand it, they provide a raw server with no
> enhancements for e/mail - and a web server with FrontPage extensions for web
> hosting. This was good enough until the junk mail barrage started.
>
> As to the expense of junk e/mail via a sat. link. No offense taken - and as
> noted in the site, expense is often more than just money. I get up to 100
> junk e/mails a day - fortunately, I don't search porn sites or it might go
> into the 1,000s. E/bay (we listed for a while), mortgage searching, and a
> few catalog purchases got us on the lists. Only a very few of them are
> "offensive" - although they don't offend me, I just delete them.
>
> Given that volume, and the 2.4 kbps/second speed of Iridium, it takes 2 to 3
> hours per day (at $1.50/minute) to download and trash my junk mail. Assuming
> I wanted to spend the bucks (I'd rather donate it to storm relief), the POP3
> server at Earthlink only deletes outgoing e/mail when it gets an
> acknowledgement that ALL e/mail has been successfully transmitted. I am
> nearly never able to keep the Iridium link up for 3+ hours - with the result
> that I get the first (say) 1/2 of the e/mail many times and don't ever get a
> note from my kids if it is near the end of the batch.
>
> What I must do is use a tool such as mail2web, manually delete the e/mail,
> read the few pieces of real mail, and invoke Outlook to read and save any
> really important e/mail.
>
> Budget is a matter of money, space, time, patience and . . . well, you get
> the picture.
>
> Thanks for the pointer, I'll try the link again.
>
>