stop the new ver 8 app from runninG

Hi, in the group policy firewall, u can add program exceptions. i.e
%ProgramFiles%\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe:*:disabled:msnmsgr
If you put this either on the computer or the user policy, it does not seem
to stop the app from loading. Any ideas please?
Thanks,
John

....Or you could just disable it using msconfig to remove it from the startup
list.

Why are you using gpedit?

--
Edward Chow [1067064]
Windows Live Butterfly - Messenger

<DIV>&quot;John&quot; &lt;&gt; wrote in
message news:AB8422D4-FADF-4D57-B0EC-...</DIV>>
Hi, in the group policy firewall, u can add program exceptions. i.e
> %ProgramFiles%\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe:*:disabled:msnmsgr
> If you put this either on the computer or the user policy, it does not
> seem
> to stop the app from loading. Any ideas please?
> Thanks,
> John

Hi Edward,
MD does not want people chatting all day at his expense, so no messenger at
all is needed. I can stop the older versions using ISA and gpedit.msc and I
can also stop it in their firewall settings from loading the older app, but
this new version, geez, i just can't seem to stop it running. I have 80 pcs
to configure... also, after I add the entry to thier fw settings and run
gpedit /force, I can see it in the firewall policy, but it does not stop it
loading..Thanks for any help you can offer...
John

"Edward Chow [Windows Live Butterfly- Mes" wrote:

> ....Or you could just disable it using msconfig to remove it from the startup
> list.
>
> Why are you using gpedit?
>
> --
> Edward Chow [1067064]
> Windows Live Butterfly - Messenger
>
> <DIV>"John" <> wrote in
> message news:AB8422D4-FADF-4D57-B0EC-...</DIV>>
> Hi, in the group policy firewall, u can add program exceptions. i.e
> > %ProgramFiles%\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe:*:disabled:msnmsgr
> > If you put this either on the computer or the user policy, it does not
> > seem
> > to stop the app from loading. Any ideas please?
> > Thanks,
> > John
>
>

See http://kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_messenger.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)

John wrote:
> Hi, in the group policy firewall, u can add program exceptions. i.e
> %ProgramFiles%\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe:*:disabled:msnmsgr
> If you put this either on the computer or the user policy, it does not
> seem
> to stop the app from loading. Any ideas please?
> Thanks,
> John

Hi,

Actually those are specifically for Windows Messenger. MSN Messenger 5 and above (and
Windows Live Messenger) have no GPO options or registry keys to stop it from functioning.

--
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Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--


"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:...
> See http://kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_messenger.htm
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)
>
> John wrote:
>> Hi, in the group policy firewall, u can add program exceptions. i.e
>> %ProgramFiles%\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe:*:disabled:msnmsgr
>> If you put this either on the computer or the user policy, it does not seem
>> to stop the app from loading. Any ideas please?
>> Thanks,
>> John
>

Hi Jonathan,
That's the problem, there is nothing to control usage in a corporate
environment. Do you know if and when tools will be released to stop it
running?
Thanks for your help,
John

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Actually those are specifically for Windows Messenger. MSN Messenger 5 and above (and
> Windows Live Messenger) have no GPO options or registry keys to stop it from functioning.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
>
> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > See http://kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_messenger.htm
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)
> >
> > John wrote:
> >> Hi, in the group policy firewall, u can add program exceptions. i.e
> >> %ProgramFiles%\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe:*:disabled:msnmsgr
> >> If you put this either on the computer or the user policy, it does not seem
> >> to stop the app from loading. Any ideas please?
> >> Thanks,
> >> John
> >
>
>
>

Hi John,

I've been trying to push for them for years, as of last I heard there were no plans to add
anything specific to do this.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--

"John" <> wrote in message
news:5AF57677-C5B5-48A9-8D86-...
> Hi Jonathan,
> That's the problem, there is nothing to control usage in a corporate
> environment. Do you know if and when tools will be released to stop it
> running?
> Thanks for your help,
> John
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Actually those are specifically for Windows Messenger. MSN Messenger 5 and above (and
>> Windows Live Messenger) have no GPO options or registry keys to stop it from functioning.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> --
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > See http://kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_messenger.htm
>> > --
>> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)
>> >
>> > John wrote:
>> >> Hi, in the group policy firewall, u can add program exceptions. i.e
>> >> %ProgramFiles%\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe:*:disabled:msnmsgr
>> >> If you put this either on the computer or the user policy, it does not seem
>> >> to stop the app from loading. Any ideas please?
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> John
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Oh well, then best we can do is maybe try to remove the application with log
on scripts? This one seems to remove it:
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove /s
but they have to be in the local admins group.
Any way of leaving it on and blocking the sign in? Then It does not matter
if it's on or off.
I have ISA 2004, so I can setup a rule to block it maybe, but as it uses
port 80, I think I have to block the sites or ip address's of the messenger
sites. Is there an easy way u know of to block it, but still leave hotmail
available?
Thanks,
John


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I've been trying to push for them for years, as of last I heard there were no plans to add
> anything specific to do this.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
> "John" <> wrote in message
> news:5AF57677-C5B5-48A9-8D86-...
> > Hi Jonathan,
> > That's the problem, there is nothing to control usage in a corporate
> > environment. Do you know if and when tools will be released to stop it
> > running?
> > Thanks for your help,
> > John
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Actually those are specifically for Windows Messenger. MSN Messenger 5 and above (and
> >> Windows Live Messenger) have no GPO options or registry keys to stop it from functioning.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jonathan Kay
> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> >> Associate Expert
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> >> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
> >> news:...
> >> > See http://kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_messenger.htm
> >> > --
> >> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)
> >> >
> >> > John wrote:
> >> >> Hi, in the group policy firewall, u can add program exceptions. i.e
> >> >> %ProgramFiles%\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe:*:disabled:msnmsgr
> >> >> If you put this either on the computer or the user policy, it does not seem
> >> >> to stop the app from loading. Any ideas please?
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> John
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Hi,

That removes Windows Messenger (which has GPOs). That will no have effect on Windows Live
Messenger.

If you block messenger.hotmail.com in ISA it should assist. Although I've not tried it
specifically with Live Messenger.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--

"John" <> wrote in message
news:9010DE82-35C3-4EC3-865F-...
> Oh well, then best we can do is maybe try to remove the application with log
> on scripts? This one seems to remove it:
> RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove /s
> but they have to be in the local admins group.
> Any way of leaving it on and blocking the sign in? Then It does not matter
> if it's on or off.
> I have ISA 2004, so I can setup a rule to block it maybe, but as it uses
> port 80, I think I have to block the sites or ip address's of the messenger
> sites. Is there an easy way u know of to block it, but still leave hotmail
> available?
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I've been trying to push for them for years, as of last I heard there were no plans to add
>> anything specific to do this.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> --
>>
>> "John" <> wrote in message
>> news:5AF57677-C5B5-48A9-8D86-...
>> > Hi Jonathan,
>> > That's the problem, there is nothing to control usage in a corporate
>> > environment. Do you know if and when tools will be released to stop it
>> > running?
>> > Thanks for your help,
>> > John
>> >
>> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Actually those are specifically for Windows Messenger. MSN Messenger 5 and above (and
>> >> Windows Live Messenger) have no GPO options or registry keys to stop it from
>> >> functioning.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jonathan Kay
>> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
>> >> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:...
>> >> > See http://kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_messenger.htm
>> >> > --
>> >> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> >> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)
>> >> >
>> >> > John wrote:
>> >> >> Hi, in the group policy firewall, u can add program exceptions. i.e
>> >> >> %ProgramFiles%\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe:*:disabled:msnmsgr
>> >> >> If you put this either on the computer or the user policy, it does not seem
>> >> >> to stop the app from loading. Any ideas please?
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> John
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>