Strange Vista Benchmark Results

Long story short, I upgraded my computer due to a graphics card compan
sending me the wrong card in the mail for an RMA. I sent them a 7900G
256mb Geforce for repair, they sent me back a 7950GX2 512mbx2 Geforc
and said "Oops, our fault, keep it."

On Windows XP I was getting great results, I went from 4174 to 5805
The problem was, though, that my hardware was all older than the ne
card, so I went ahead and upgraded. During the upgrade, I decided t
pick up a copy of Vista Home Premium for future need. I made a dual boo
of XP and Vista for games that wouldn't run under Vista, and
benchmarked on XP. The score jumped from 5805 to 9075. Wow!
Sweetness. I benchmarked on Windows Vista and got 4860. OUCH. That'
a downgrade from the card BEFORE this great new mistake as a gift fro
my video card company.

I believe it must be some sort of driver complication, but of th
scanning programs I've used (and mind you, I used the trials to se
which drivers were out of date but didn't buy the license to actuall
download the driver) said that most of my drivers are current on m
system.

The ones being out of date don't look too important, but here the
are..

High Precision Event Timer (exact match: definitely out of date)
ATI I/O Communications Processor SMBus Controller (says might not b
out of date, but throws a flag anyway)
ATI I/O Communications Processor LPC Controller (says might not be ou
of date, but throws a flag anyway)
PCI standard host CPU bridge (says might not be out of date, but throw
a flag anyway)

Other than that, everything checks out. I'm not sure what else woul
cause such a terrible decrease in performance (nearly 50%). Can anyon
please help me? Thus far, I have found no one on Google with as much o
a decrease as me. I've seen decreases in the 100 - 500 points range
not the 4200 or more points range.. o_

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Locke

Locke;666544 Wrote:
> Long story short, I upgraded my computer due to a graphics card compan
> sending me the wrong card in the mail for an RMA. I sent them a 7900G
> 256mb Geforce for repair, they sent me back a 7950GX2 512mbx2 Geforc
> and said "Oops, our fault, keep it.
>
> On Windows XP I was getting great results, I went from 4174 to 5805
> The problem was, though, that my hardware was all older than the ne
> card, so I went ahead and upgraded. During the upgrade, I decided t
> pick up a copy of Vista Home Premium for future need. I made a dual boo
> of XP and Vista for games that wouldn't run under Vista, and
> benchmarked on XP. The score jumped from 5805 to 9075. Wow! Sweetness.
> benchmarked on Windows Vista and got 4860. OUCH. That's a downgrade fro
> the card BEFORE this great new mistake as a gift from my video car
> company.
>
> I believe it must be some sort of driver complication, but of th
> scanning programs I've used (and mind you, I used the trials to se
> which drivers were out of date but didn't buy the license to actuall
> download the driver) said that most of my drivers are current on m
> system.
>
> The ones being out of date don't look too important, but here the
> are.
>
> High Precision Event Timer (exact match: definitely out of date
> ATI I/O Communications Processor SMBus Controller (says might not b
> out of date, but throws a flag anyway
> ATI I/O Communications Processor LPC Controller (says might not be ou
> of date, but throws a flag anyway
> PCI standard host CPU bridge (says might not be out of date, but throw
> a flag anyway
>
> Other than that, everything checks out. I'm not sure what else woul
> cause such a terrible decrease in performance (nearly 50%). Can anyon
> please help me? Thus far, I have found no one on Google with as much o
> a decrease as me. I've seen decreases in the 100 - 500 points range, no
> the 4200 or more points range.. o_

The biggest factor that explains why your scores between XP and Vist
are so radically different is because the benchmark program you ar
using (you never said which) is likely written specifically for XP. Th
Vista scores cannot be taken as a true benchmark unless you use
benchmarking utility written specifically for Vista, such as PCMar
Vantage (http://www.futuremark.com/products/pcmarkvantage/). You ca
then compare scores between yours and other Vista installations

But unless you find a utility that can correctly test and recognize th
differences between both XP and Vista, you cannot accurately compar
scores

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Hello, and thank you for your reply! Also, my apologies. I use
*3DMark06.

I agree with your main response on the programming differences betwee
XP and Vista, but I'm looking online and seeing other people comparin
their Vista and XP scores and losing maybe 100 to 400 points. They ar
accurately getting the "10% performance hit" where I'm getting over
50% performance hit (in the program itself)

This is not a huge problem for me since I dual boot and play my game
on my Windows XP installation regardless, however, as I said before,
do like to have things optimized so I was curious if anyone had an
problems such as mine

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Locke

Can't seem to find this on the forums anymore, so I'm bumping it.
:sarc

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Locke

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:03:40 -0500, Locke wrote:

> Can't seem to find this on the forums anymore, so I'm bumping it.
>:sarc:

I looked at this wondering what you were using to benchmark your system,
but learned little - could you flesh it out?
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Kris
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| 2x1gb Mushkin HP 800@1040 | MSI NX8600GTS-OC 256mb |
Raidmax RX530-SS psu | Vista Ult 32 SP1

It'd be the big bold 3DMark06 in my second post. :P


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Locke

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:24:24 -0500, Locke wrote:

> It'd be the big bold 3DMark06 in my second post. :P

I tried to run it but it gave me a message that it needed DX9 and I'll be
damned if I'll take any chance of corrupting DX10 just to run that!!!!!
Soon enough something that will use DX10 will come along - if not from mad
onion, from somewhere else.
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Kris
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DFI Infinity Blood-Iron P35-T2RL | E2200Alen 2.2@2.86 TtP0310
| 2x1gb Mushkin HP 800@1040 | MSI NX8600GTS-OC 256mb |
Raidmax RX530-SS psu | Vista Ult 32 SP1

Well, Kris, first of all, you got the wrong version of 3DMark06. Lord
knows there are so many of them, but you need the most recent, which is
1.1.0. The best mirror is here, 'Forums - OverclockingWiki.org -
Downloads - 3DMark®06 Basic Edition (Build 1.1.0) Full Install'
(http://www.overclockingwiki.org/foru...p?do=file&id=4) (be
sure to make a free account, however).

Secondly, there is a program from Futuremark that does benchmark DX10
systems, and it's called Vantage or something of the sort ('Futuremark -
Announcing 3DMark Vantage!' (http://www.futuremark.com) has details).
However, seeing as I'm on a DX9 card (GeForce 7950 GX2), I want the DX9
bencher.

I don't know how some Vista people are getting their benchmarks so much
higher than mine with the same hardware, but alas, it's happening.


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Locke

I'm an idiot, I know all about being specific when asking a tech
question and I didn't even list my specs this time. I should lay off the
beer. lol. That being said, I know I have the hardware to run Vista. I'm
currently 5.4 of 5.9 Vista rating if that makes any difference.



Proc: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core

Mobo/Chipset: BIOSTAR A770 A2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD

RAM: A-DATA 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual
Channel

HD: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Hard Drive



And yes, I'm totally up to date on my Windows updates (including SP1),
and I don't have a hog of an anti-virus running (Windows Live! One
Care). I installed Vista on Friday night, and it's now Monday night.


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Locke

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:01:16 -0500, Locke wrote:

> Well, Kris, first of all, you got the wrong version of 3DMark06. Lord
> knows there are so many of them, but you need the most recent, which is
> 1.1.0. The best mirror is here, 'Forums - OverclockingWiki.org -
> Downloads - 3DMark®06 Basic Edition (Build 1.1.0) Full Install'
> (http://www.overclockingwiki.org/foru...p?do=file&id=4) (be
> sure to make a free account, however).
>
> Secondly, there is a program from Futuremark that does benchmark DX10
> systems, and it's called Vantage or something of the sort ('Futuremark -
> Announcing 3DMark Vantage!' (http://www.futuremark.com) has details).
> However, seeing as I'm on a DX9 card (GeForce 7950 GX2), I want the DX9
> bencher.
>
> I don't know how some Vista people are getting their benchmarks so much
> higher than mine with the same hardware, but alas, it's happening.

Thanks for that info!!! I did not know there was a new version out. I'm
torrenting it down as we speak. Let you know what I get...
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Kris
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DFI Infinity Blood-Iron P35-T2RL | E2200Alen 2.2@2.86 TtP0310
| 2x1gb Mushkin HP 800@1040 | MSI NX8600GTS-OC 256mb |
Raidmax RX530-SS psu | Vista Ult 32 SP1