System Hanging

Hi

Ive noticed my PC hanging lately over last few weeks, especially at startup.

Only Zone Alarm SS is set to load at startup.

Im running Vista HP with all MS updates installed. AMD 2.6GHZ Processor, and
4MB of RAM.

Ive ran all the usual virus and malware checks and all is clear.

Ive checked Event Viewer I see an error every 2 minutes or so. Error message
with red exclamation is:

''The Windows Search Service has failed to create the SystemIndex search
index. Internal error 1, 0x800700b7, Failed to add Gather Application:
Windows>.''

After this warning icon shows error message:

''The Windows Search Service is attempting to remove the old catalog.''

Next another warning icon shows message:

''The Windows Search Service has successfully removed the old catalog.''

Then error message with red exclamation is shown again:

''The Windows Search Service has failed to create the SystemIndex search
index. Internal error 1, 0x800700b7, Failed to add Gather Application:
Windows>.''

This sequence of messages shows through Event Viewer on an almost minutely
cycle.

Could this be what is causing the PC to hang? Anyone any thoughts?

Thanks

Si9"

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:59:46 +0100, "si9" <> wrote:

>Hi
>
>Ive noticed my PC hanging lately over last few weeks, especially at startup.

Define "startup". Is that during initial boo? before login? after?

>Only Zone Alarm SS is set to load at startup.

Probably not correct. Install something like Startup Control Panel
http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml and take a look. You likely have
lots of things starting up. With that tool, you can uncheck items to
shut them off at startup and then see the effect without removing them
permanently. You might find something that is hanging the system.

Do you have an connections to shared drives that might be missing or
disappearing during use?

>

>Ive checked Event Viewer I see an error every 2 minutes or so. Error message
>with red exclamation is:
>
>''The Windows Search Service has failed to create the SystemIndex search
>index. Internal error 1, 0x800700b7, Failed to add Gather Application:
>Windows>.''

I would advise disabling the Window Search Service anyway. Install a
tool like Agent Ransack for searching and leave indexing off.

By Startup I mean once the desktop is displayed, the hanging appears to
begin.

I'll certainly try Startup Control Panel and report back.

I already have disabled the Window Search Service. My inclination is
something is trying to start within it causing the hanging, but I've no idea
what.

Ta


"+Bob+" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:59:46 +0100, "si9" <> wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Ive noticed my PC hanging lately over last few weeks, especially at
>>startup.
>
> Define "startup". Is that during initial boo? before login? after?
>
>>Only Zone Alarm SS is set to load at startup.
>
> Probably not correct. Install something like Startup Control Panel
> http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml and take a look. You likely have
> lots of things starting up. With that tool, you can uncheck items to
> shut them off at startup and then see the effect without removing them
> permanently. You might find something that is hanging the system.
>
> Do you have an connections to shared drives that might be missing or
> disappearing during use?
>
>>
>
>>Ive checked Event Viewer I see an error every 2 minutes or so. Error
>>message
>>with red exclamation is:
>>
>>''The Windows Search Service has failed to create the SystemIndex search
>>index. Internal error 1, 0x800700b7, Failed to add Gather Application:
>>Windows>.''
>
> I would advise disabling the Window Search Service anyway. Install a
> tool like Agent Ransack for searching and leave indexing off.

Hi +Bob+

I ran Startup Control Panel and under the HKLM/Run tab only Zone Alarm is
listed.

Nothing else is listed under the other 5 tabs.

Thanks.


"si9" <> wrote in message
news:%23RSOQQo%...
> By Startup I mean once the desktop is displayed, the hanging appears to
> begin.
>
> I'll certainly try Startup Control Panel and report back.
>
> I already have disabled the Window Search Service. My inclination is
> something is trying to start within it causing the hanging, but I've no
> idea what.
>
> Ta
>
>
> "+Bob+" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:59:46 +0100, "si9" <> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Ive noticed my PC hanging lately over last few weeks, especially at
>>>startup.
>>
>> Define "startup". Is that during initial boo? before login? after?
>>
>>>Only Zone Alarm SS is set to load at startup.
>>
>> Probably not correct. Install something like Startup Control Panel
>> http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml and take a look. You likely have
>> lots of things starting up. With that tool, you can uncheck items to
>> shut them off at startup and then see the effect without removing them
>> permanently. You might find something that is hanging the system.
>>
>> Do you have an connections to shared drives that might be missing or
>> disappearing during use?
>>
>>>
>>
>>>Ive checked Event Viewer I see an error every 2 minutes or so. Error
>>>message
>>>with red exclamation is:
>>>
>>>''The Windows Search Service has failed to create the SystemIndex search
>>>index. Internal error 1, 0x800700b7, Failed to add Gather Application:
>>>Windows>.''
>>
>> I would advise disabling the Window Search Service anyway. Install a
>> tool like Agent Ransack for searching and leave indexing off.
>

Get Autoruns from the Microsoft website. Like startup Control Panel, it
tells you what is starting with Windows and gives you a way to modify that.
But it is *very* thorough and will give you much more information than you
thought possible. OK, much more information than *I* thought possible :-)

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:06:36 +0100, si9 wrote:

> Hi +Bob+
>
> I ran Startup Control Panel and under the HKLM/Run tab only Zone Alarm is
> listed.
>
> Nothing else is listed under the other 5 tabs.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> "si9" <> wrote in message
> news:%23RSOQQo%...
>> By Startup I mean once the desktop is displayed, the hanging appears to
>> begin.
>>
>> I'll certainly try Startup Control Panel and report back.
>>
>> I already have disabled the Window Search Service. My inclination is
>> something is trying to start within it causing the hanging, but I've no
>> idea what.
>>
>> Ta
>>
>>
>> "+Bob+" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:59:46 +0100, "si9" <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>Ive noticed my PC hanging lately over last few weeks, especially at
>>>>startup.
>>>
>>> Define "startup". Is that during initial boo? before login? after?
>>>
>>>>Only Zone Alarm SS is set to load at startup.
>>>
>>> Probably not correct. Install something like Startup Control Panel
>>> http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml and take a look. You likely have
>>> lots of things starting up. With that tool, you can uncheck items to
>>> shut them off at startup and then see the effect without removing them
>>> permanently. You might find something that is hanging the system.
>>>
>>> Do you have an connections to shared drives that might be missing or
>>> disappearing during use?
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>Ive checked Event Viewer I see an error every 2 minutes or so. Error
>>>>message
>>>>with red exclamation is:
>>>>
>>>>''The Windows Search Service has failed to create the SystemIndex search
>>>>index. Internal error 1, 0x800700b7, Failed to add Gather Application:
>>>>Windows>.''
>>>
>>> I would advise disabling the Window Search Service anyway. Install a
>>> tool like Agent Ransack for searching and leave indexing off.
>>


--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:06:36 +0100, "si9" <> wrote:

>Hi +Bob+
>
>I ran Startup Control Panel and under the HKLM/Run tab only Zone Alarm is
>listed.
>
>Nothing else is listed under the other 5 tabs.
>
>Thanks.

Unusual.. but, I would start by disabling Zone Alarm. See if that
helps. I doubt it though... sounds more like something major in
Windows.

When you disabled the Windows Search, did you set the service to
"disabled" in services.msc?

I would also look in service.msc to see what is starting automatically
and disable any service you think you don't need. Keep a list in case
you need to turn things back on and only do one item at a time to test
unless you are very sure of what you are doing. See if you can find
something that is hanging you.

Also, do you have connections to shared drives ?