System Restore Anomaly

I'm using Vista Basic sp2
Sometimes my System Restore dialog will be missing the area at
and below the Recommended restore selection. The command buttons
are ok.
This occurred yesterday and I know it was fine in the morning 'cause I
created 3 manual restore points one before installing 3 dvd maker
type software.
It seemed to happen after I opened System Restore after installing the
third program. But I can't remember if I used System Restore after I
installed
the second program. (Maybe I should have uninstalled before installing)

This and the other times it has occurred rolling back to a restore point
fixed
it but this time rolling back to a restore point made the previous day had
no effect.
It wasn't until a Definition Update for Windows Defender was installed and
after a
reboot did it get fixed.
In another occurrence a couple months ago an activex update seemed to
correct it.
I'm nearly positive that one of the programs I installed is the culprit.

Was wondering if anyone else has experienced this anomaly.
Anyway I might avoid this in the future?

Thanks,
James

"JamesJ" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I'm using Vista Basic sp2
> Sometimes my System Restore dialog will be missing the area at
> and below the Recommended restore selection. The command buttons
> are ok.
> This occurred yesterday and I know it was fine in the morning 'cause I
> created 3 manual restore points one before installing 3 dvd maker
> type software.
> It seemed to happen after I opened System Restore after installing the
> third program. But I can't remember if I used System Restore after I
> installed
> the second program. (Maybe I should have uninstalled before installing)
>
> This and the other times it has occurred rolling back to a restore point
> fixed
> it but this time rolling back to a restore point made the previous day had
> no effect.
> It wasn't until a Definition Update for Windows Defender was installed and
> after a
> reboot did it get fixed.
> In another occurrence a couple months ago an activex update seemed to
> correct it.
> I'm nearly positive that one of the programs I installed is the culprit.
>
> Was wondering if anyone else has experienced this anomaly.
> Anyway I might avoid this in the future?
>
> Thanks,
> James
>

Yeah I had that happen to me today. Strange thing is it happened both on my
laptop and desktop computer at the same time. I noticed it on my desktop
first, so I checked the laptop. I rebooted the laptop it came back . I
rebooted the desktop and main administrator profile I normally used
disappeared. It booted up with a normal user profile and I had no other
administrator access. Booted into safe-mode and even there it used my
normal user profile. I had no administrator access and trying to enable
administrator account didn't work. You already have to have admin access to
reenable it. I checked User accounts in Control Panel and my admin account
I used to use doesn't show, but using the command line it shows up, but I
can't do anything with it. I tried booting from the Windows DVD to do a
restore and there was only one restore point, but it put me back at the same
spot I was after the reboot, only a regular account, no admin rights.

I was planning on making some changes to the desktop anyway (installed RAID
drive as boot and install Windows 7 x64) so it wasn't a huge deal though. I
had everything backed up and ready to go for a reinstall.

Windows 7 was no go, it doesn't recognize Gigabyte i-RAM and doesn't like
Intel RAID, it just sits at the black screen with with version info at the
lower-right corner with RAID enabled. It worked on my other test machine
with AMD with Nvidia chipset and Nvidia RAID setup, so I wasn't expecting
any trouble. Windows 7 finally worked, but only without RAID and I ended
up going back to Windows Vista Home Basic x64, but RAID and i-RAM ramdisk
works.

Windows 7 RC is definitely not ready for production, at least not for me.

When this happens to me and I click 'Next' in System Restore I only see
about 4
restore points when there should be more. Normally when I click next I get
the
'Confirm Restore Point' screen.

James

"Tae Song" <> wrote in message
news:B12B01D2-DBC5-47EB-9F87-...
>
> "JamesJ" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> I'm using Vista Basic sp2
>> Sometimes my System Restore dialog will be missing the area at
>> and below the Recommended restore selection. The command buttons
>> are ok.
>> This occurred yesterday and I know it was fine in the morning 'cause I
>> created 3 manual restore points one before installing 3 dvd maker
>> type software.
>> It seemed to happen after I opened System Restore after installing the
>> third program. But I can't remember if I used System Restore after I
>> installed
>> the second program. (Maybe I should have uninstalled before installing)
>>
>> This and the other times it has occurred rolling back to a restore point
>> fixed
>> it but this time rolling back to a restore point made the previous day
>> had no effect.
>> It wasn't until a Definition Update for Windows Defender was installed
>> and after a
>> reboot did it get fixed.
>> In another occurrence a couple months ago an activex update seemed to
>> correct it.
>> I'm nearly positive that one of the programs I installed is the culprit.
>>
>> Was wondering if anyone else has experienced this anomaly.
>> Anyway I might avoid this in the future?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> James
>>
>
> Yeah I had that happen to me today. Strange thing is it happened both on
> my laptop and desktop computer at the same time. I noticed it on my
> desktop first, so I checked the laptop. I rebooted the laptop it came
> back . I rebooted the desktop and main administrator profile I normally
> used disappeared. It booted up with a normal user profile and I had no
> other administrator access. Booted into safe-mode and even there it used
> my normal user profile. I had no administrator access and trying to
> enable administrator account didn't work. You already have to have admin
> access to reenable it. I checked User accounts in Control Panel and my
> admin account I used to use doesn't show, but using the command line it
> shows up, but I can't do anything with it. I tried booting from the
> Windows DVD to do a restore and there was only one restore point, but it
> put me back at the same spot I was after the reboot, only a regular
> account, no admin rights.
>
> I was planning on making some changes to the desktop anyway (installed
> RAID drive as boot and install Windows 7 x64) so it wasn't a huge deal
> though. I had everything backed up and ready to go for a reinstall.
>
> Windows 7 was no go, it doesn't recognize Gigabyte i-RAM and doesn't like
> Intel RAID, it just sits at the black screen with with version info at the
> lower-right corner with RAID enabled. It worked on my other test machine
> with AMD with Nvidia chipset and Nvidia RAID setup, so I wasn't expecting
> any trouble. Windows 7 finally worked, but only without RAID and I ended
> up going back to Windows Vista Home Basic x64, but RAID and i-RAM ramdisk
> works.
>
> Windows 7 RC is definitely not ready for production, at least not for me.

JamesJ;1145424 Wrote:
> When this happens to me and I click 'Next' in System Restore I only see
> about 4
> restore points when there should be more. Normally when I click next I
> get
> the
> 'Confirm Restore Point' screen.
>
> James
>
> "Tae Song" <tae_song@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:B12B01D2-DBC5-47EB-9F87-B587369AE084@newsgroup> > >
> > >
> > > "JamesJ" <jjy_darwin@newsgroup> wrote in message
> > > news:uefzNHdPKHA.3256@newsgroup> > > > >
> > > >> I'm using Vista Basic sp2
> > > >> Sometimes my System Restore dialog will be missing the area at
> > > >> and below the Recommended restore selection. The command buttons
> > > >> are ok.
> > > >> This occurred yesterday and I know it was fine in the morning 'cause
> > > I
> > > >> created 3 manual restore points one before installing 3 dvd maker
> > > >> type software.
> > > >> It seemed to happen after I opened System Restore after installing
> > > the
> > > >> third program. But I can't remember if I used System Restore after I
> > > >> installed
> > > >> the second program. (Maybe I should have uninstalled before
> > > installing)
> > > >>
> > > >> This and the other times it has occurred rolling back to a restore
> > > point
> > > >> fixed
> > > >> it but this time rolling back to a restore point made the previous
> > > day
> > > >> had no effect.
> > > >> It wasn't until a Definition Update for Windows Defender was
> > > installed
> > > >> and after a
> > > >> reboot did it get fixed.
> > > >> In another occurrence a couple months ago an activex update seemed
> > > to
> > > >> correct it.
> > > >> I'm nearly positive that one of the programs I installed is the
> > > culprit.
> > > >>
> > > >> Was wondering if anyone else has experienced this anomaly.
> > > >> Anyway I might avoid this in the future?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> James
> > > >>> > > >
> > >
> > > Yeah I had that happen to me today. Strange thing is it happened
> > both on
> > > my laptop and desktop computer at the same time. I noticed it on
> > my
> > > desktop first, so I checked the laptop. I rebooted the laptop it
> > came
> > > back . I rebooted the desktop and main administrator profile I
> > normally
> > > used disappeared. It booted up with a normal user profile and I
> > had no
> > > other administrator access. Booted into safe-mode and even there
> > it used
> > > my normal user profile. I had no administrator access and trying
> > to
> > > enable administrator account didn't work. You already have to
> > have admin
> > > access to reenable it. I checked User accounts in Control Panel
> > and my
> > > admin account I used to use doesn't show, but using the command
> > line it
> > > shows up, but I can't do anything with it. I tried booting from
> > the
> > > Windows DVD to do a restore and there was only one restore point,
> > but it
> > > put me back at the same spot I was after the reboot, only a
> > regular
> > > account, no admin rights.
> > >
> > > I was planning on making some changes to the desktop anyway
> > (installed
> > > RAID drive as boot and install Windows 7 x64) so it wasn't a huge
> > deal
> > > though. I had everything backed up and ready to go for a
> > reinstall.
> > >
> > > Windows 7 was no go, it doesn't recognize Gigabyte i-RAM and
> > doesn't like
> > > Intel RAID, it just sits at the black screen with with version
> > info at the
> > > lower-right corner with RAID enabled. It worked on my other test
> > machine
> > > with AMD with Nvidia chipset and Nvidia RAID setup, so I wasn't
> > expecting
> > > any trouble. Windows 7 finally worked, but only without RAID and
> > I ended
> > > up going back to Windows Vista Home Basic x64, but RAID and i-RAM
> > ramdisk
> > > works.
> > >
> > > Windows 7 RC is definitely not ready for production, at least not
> > for me. > >


The best way to check your restore point situation is to open Command
Prompt (Run as Admin). The type the command VSSADMIN LIST SHADOWS. That
will list all your restore points (shadows) by date. If you like a more
comfortable way, use Shadow Explorer ( 'ShadowExplorer.com - About'
(htt://www.shadowexplorer.com/) ) which is also neat to recover lost
files.


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